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--yes, my gums were infected a lot and some recieded and some teeth

died at the roots, bad taste in mouth, gargled with peroxide alot,

brushed teeth and tounge alot. I often brushed my teeth 4, 5 times a

day.

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> I am just wondering.. Has anyone else, besides me, experienced an

> insideous onset of periodontal disease (along with your intestinal

> problems and diarreah) after the mycotoxin exposure, or after a sewer

> backup? I understand these tissues are related, so it makes sense

that

> gum tissue would be effected as well.

>

> Cyndi

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I had this too, very big time!! I think it is due to suppression of

immune system. This is another thing that has impoverished me.

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> I am just wondering.. Has anyone else, besides me, experienced an

> insideous onset of periodontal disease (along with your intestinal

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Most of this sounds all to familiar. Sharon had good teeth and I guess

a year into her exposure all of her teeth rotted at the gumline and

had to be removed. We couldn't believe how quickly this occurred and

of course at that time had no idea it was related to all the other

conditions or to mold itself.

KC

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wrote:

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> I am just wondering.. Has anyone else, besides me, experienced an

> insideous onset of periodontal disease (along with your intestinal

> problems and diarreah) after the mycotoxin exposure, or after a

sewer

> backup? I understand these tissues are related, so it makes sense

that

> gum tissue would be effected as well.

>

> Cyndi

>

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I have had peridontal disease at exactly the spot where air impacted my

teeth when my nose was clogged up (pretty much every night when I lived in

the moldy apartment where I got my exposure.

Dentists could not figure out why it didn't heal, but to me it was pretty

obvious.

My eyes were also getting blurry and cloudy, and my eyes would burn and get

clouded over nightly and often, I'd have trouble focusing, and my eyelids

would itch and the space bethind and around my eye would get some kind of

fluid and my nose had frequent blisters inside it from the mold..

Since I moved out, the blisters have disappeared completely and my mouth

(gums) area has noticably healed, although not completely yet.

Previous apt. had (has still, I am sure) major asp/pen and stachy issues.

(verified by labs)

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> Dentists could not figure out why it didn't heal, but to me it was

pretty obvious.

>

When Dr D bought a house without " perceptifying " it first, back in

2001, saying it was " too good of a deal to pass up " - We spent one

night there and told her " It is here " .

I didn't want to abandon our relationship, but I knew that I was

literally making the decision to plunge myself back into Mold Hell if

I made this move with her.

I figured that since Dr D is also a mold responder, it was my

responsibility to go and suffer with her - and when we both fell

apart - as I knew we surely would by living there, I would have

my " escape module " ready to evacuate us both when the time came, - and

that is exactly what happened.

She spent all her money trying to remediate the house, even though I

told her that the entire neighborhood was " bad " and this would not

make enough of a difference, and in the meantime, she was mad at me

for being unhelpful because I " wasted time " remediating the RV.

At the very last, when we could take it no longer, not one more

moment in Living Hell - I had several teeth that were abcessing - but

we were so sick, that dental considerations seem minor when you are

trying to survive the night.

But when fintally we " Hit the Wall " , I had my Plan B ready, and we

escaped to the woods - where we were able to recover. I had been

through this before, and I knew what to do - so we made it out,

decontaminated - and left the mold behind.

Dr D told me " You are cursed. I've never seen anyone with such bad

luck. Mold follows you around. Nobody has ever heard of toxic mold

and now it has happened to us repeatedly - I have to get away from you

if I ever hope to have a normal life " .

And so she left me.

So if I have any regrets, it is that I knowingly moved into a place

that almost took me down again, because I was crazy about this girl

and didn't want to give up on our relationship.

For this conscious decision to endure Mold Hell again, I have paid

most dearly, but the amazing part is that the abcesses cleared up and

the dentist says all my teeth except one have recovered.

So in terms of teeth, my bad decision to stay rather than run only

cost me one of them.

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-I had them sores in my nose and under it too in my second home when

my nose dripped constantly and my eyes watered and it effected my

vision.aspergillus-pinicillium strange how in my first home where it

was much dryer my nose and eyes burned but it slowly messed up my

sinuses.stachy.

makes me wonder if that contact cleaner that caused the eye fungus

was because of the moisture lock. maybe moisture in eyes and mold

spores in the

air

-- In , LiveSimply

<quackadillian@...> wrote:

>

> I have had peridontal disease at exactly the spot where air

impacted my

> teeth when my nose was clogged up (pretty much every night when I

lived in

> the moldy apartment where I got my exposure.

>

> Dentists could not figure out why it didn't heal, but to me it was

pretty

> obvious.

>

> My eyes were also getting blurry and cloudy, and my eyes would burn

and get

> clouded over nightly and often, I'd have trouble focusing, and my

eyelids

> would itch and the space bethind and around my eye would get some

kind of

> fluid and my nose had frequent blisters inside it from the mold..

>

> Since I moved out, the blisters have disappeared completely and my

mouth

> (gums) area has noticably healed, although not completely yet.

>

> Previous apt. had (has still, I am sure) major asp/pen and stachy

issues.

> (verified by labs)

>

>

>

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Two tips for anyone who has gingivitis (from mold or otherwise)

One of the best investments I've ever made is a WaterPik. It cleans the

teeth really well. You should still floss, but I would also WaterPik if you

want to get the teeth ultra-clean. (brushing with peroxide and baking soda

also helps) Do it at least twice a day.

Another tip, adding a tiny amount of (pure or from crushed tablets) folic

acid to a final mouthwash or the WaterPik fluid really helps your teeth heal

faster.

Read that on Medline.. tried it, it also helps..

HTH

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Do you mix hydrogen peroxide and baking soda into a paste or do you do

one and then the other?

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> Two tips for anyone who has gingivitis (from mold or otherwise)

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Wow, , I am so sorry you went through that. I can really relate, though that

didn't

happen to me in the same way. There is no figuring how people are going to take

that kind

of hell, and what crazy reasons come up to make sense of it. There just is no

sense to be

made of it.

I also learned (I hope) that we have to stand up for our own health, for without

that, we are

of no use to anyone else. And who wants to die for love? I sure didn't want to,

but I almost

did anyway. Didn't know it was mold, just knew it was something, and should

move. But

he wouldn't move, so I stayed.

> > Dentists could not figure out why it didn't heal, but to me it was

> pretty obvious.

> >

>

> When Dr D bought a house without " perceptifying " it first, back in

> 2001, saying it was " too good of a deal to pass up " - We spent one

> night there and told her " It is here " .

> I didn't want to abandon our relationship, but I knew that I was

> literally making the decision to plunge myself back into Mold Hell if

> I made this move with her.

> I figured that since Dr D is also a mold responder, it was my

> responsibility to go and suffer with her - and when we both fell

> apart - as I knew we surely would by living there, I would have

> my " escape module " ready to evacuate us both when the time came, - and

> that is exactly what happened.

> She spent all her money trying to remediate the house, even though I

> told her that the entire neighborhood was " bad " and this would not

> make enough of a difference, and in the meantime, she was mad at me

> for being unhelpful because I " wasted time " remediating the RV.

>

> At the very last, when we could take it no longer, not one more

> moment in Living Hell - I had several teeth that were abcessing - but

> we were so sick, that dental considerations seem minor when you are

> trying to survive the night.

> But when fintally we " Hit the Wall " , I had my Plan B ready, and we

> escaped to the woods - where we were able to recover. I had been

> through this before, and I knew what to do - so we made it out,

> decontaminated - and left the mold behind.

> Dr D told me " You are cursed. I've never seen anyone with such bad

> luck. Mold follows you around. Nobody has ever heard of toxic mold

> and now it has happened to us repeatedly - I have to get away from you

> if I ever hope to have a normal life " .

> And so she left me.

> So if I have any regrets, it is that I knowingly moved into a place

> that almost took me down again, because I was crazy about this girl

> and didn't want to give up on our relationship.

> For this conscious decision to endure Mold Hell again, I have paid

> most dearly, but the amazing part is that the abcesses cleared up and

> the dentist says all my teeth except one have recovered.

> So in terms of teeth, my bad decision to stay rather than run only

> cost me one of them.

> -

>

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