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May 17, 2006

Hi Cheryl,

I feel that we need to lobby parliament as a health visiting group as we get

lost within nursing generally. It is important that the public know that

health visiting has problems, as many clients do not necessarily make the

link. I am glad that there is a level of activity within the CPHVA, but I

really do feel that we need to keep up the pressure. I am devestated for my

group who have worked exeptionally hard, are coming towards the end of their

years course and now wonder whether it is worth carrying on. I am working

hard on keeping up morale and that is why I am encouraging them to make

their voices heard. I do not want the majority of them to have to go back to

previous jobs in nursing (if they can get any) and we lose them forever-

what a waste. Many of them are young, and we need them desparately. They

will as a group certainly be lobbying local MPs as I am encouraging them to

be pro-active rather than just fall into a state of despair.

Regards,

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> The CPHVA have just announced two media events:

>

> Amicus/CPHVA Director, Reay and one of the UK's experts on health

> visiting, Professor Cowley will be interviewed on BBC Four's You

> and Yours programme between 12 noon -1.00pm tomorrow, (Wednesday, 17

> May) on the crisis facing the health visiting profession.

>

> Channel Four News tomorrow (Wednesday, 17 May) will be screening a

> report on the potential takeover of a Derbyshire GP practice by an

> American multi-national, which could have drastic implications for

> Amicus Health members and the public at large.

>

May 17, 2006

I hate to spoil a good story but it is worth remembering that we are where

we are today because of the CPHVA.

It was the CPHVA who lobbied the government to deregulate health visiting in

2001. Government ministers, especially Hutton, repeatedly reminded all

of us opposed to the deregulation of the profession that he and athe

government had the support of the CPHVA. As a passionately committed health

visitor who fought within and outside the CPHVA to retain the profession it

is now my view that the profession has passed that crucial tipping point and

is in terminal decline.

I have just taken over a workload of several thousand children with a staff

of 2,7WTE Health Visitors all I can do is measure the suffering.

Where were you cheryl in 2001 when we demonstrated outside the TUC awhilst

CPHVA Staff and Executive marched past us to endorce the death of our

profession.

I now separate Amicus, the Union from the CPHVA, the least of whose sins was

the betrayal of the profession, the much greater sin has been the suffering

of children in this country since 2001.

I still have the archieve of that shameful time. both trade unions and the

nursing profession like to rewrite history but i refuse to let the CPHVA

forget their actions in 2001

Daly former professional officer CPHVA and Health Visitor

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>>

>> The CPHVA have just announced two media events:

>>

>> Amicus/CPHVA Director, Reay and one of the UK's experts on health

>> visiting, Professor Cowley will be interviewed on BBC Four's You

>> and Yours programme between 12 noon -1.00pm tomorrow, (Wednesday, 17

>> May) on the crisis facing the health visiting profession.

>>

>> Channel Four News tomorrow (Wednesday, 17 May) will be screening a

>> report on the potential takeover of a Derbyshire GP practice by an

>> American multi-national, which could have drastic implications for

>> Amicus Health members and the public at large.

>>

May 17, 2006

It makes painful reading but have to say you are so right - the message

out there is we no longer have a professional organization and these when

asked I tell people we are not being supported nationally - it was 10 years

in March (a decade ago) when I left the HVA and then you all followed - I

blame myself sometimes for not succession planning but I really thought the

profession was string enough to survive - how wrong I was.

But in some ways I can also be positive and I think it will come back -

maybe slightly different but that will be despite of rather than because of

Margaret

Re: {Virus?} RE: {Spam?} two media events

I hate to spoil a good story but it is worth remembering that we are where

we are today because of the CPHVA.

It was the CPHVA who lobbied the government to deregulate health visiting in

2001. Government ministers, especially Hutton, repeatedly reminded all

of us opposed to the deregulation of the profession that he and athe

government had the support of the CPHVA. As a passionately committed health

visitor who fought within and outside the CPHVA to retain the profession it

is now my view that the profession has passed that crucial tipping point and

is in terminal decline.

I have just taken over a workload of several thousand children with a staff

of 2,7WTE Health Visitors all I can do is measure the suffering.

Where were you cheryl in 2001 when we demonstrated outside the TUC awhilst

CPHVA Staff and Executive marched past us to endorce the death of our

profession.

I now separate Amicus, the Union from the CPHVA, the least of whose sins was

the betrayal of the profession, the much greater sin has been the suffering

of children in this country since 2001.

I still have the archieve of that shameful time. both trade unions and the

nursing profession like to rewrite history but i refuse to let the CPHVA

forget their actions in 2001

Daly former professional officer CPHVA and Health Visitor

{Spam?} two media events

>>

>> The CPHVA have just announced two media events:

>>

>> Amicus/CPHVA Director, Reay and one of the UK's experts on health

>> visiting, Professor Cowley will be interviewed on BBC Four's You

>> and Yours programme between 12 noon -1.00pm tomorrow, (Wednesday, 17

>> May) on the crisis facing the health visiting profession.

>>

>> Channel Four News tomorrow (Wednesday, 17 May) will be screening a

>> report on the potential takeover of a Derbyshire GP practice by an

>> American multi-national, which could have drastic implications for

>> Amicus Health members and the public at large.

>>

May 17, 2006

I agree margaret. given there is no longer a profession of health visiting

the key task now is to try to ensure that whatever replaces it serves

families and children at least as well as health visiting did.

Part is that is to ensure history is not rewritten and lessons are learned

mary

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>>>

>>> The CPHVA have just announced two media events:

>>>

>>> Amicus/CPHVA Director, Reay and one of the UK's experts on health

>>> visiting, Professor Cowley will be interviewed on BBC Four's You

>>> and Yours programme between 12 noon -1.00pm tomorrow, (Wednesday, 17

>>> May) on the crisis facing the health visiting profession.

>>>

>>> Channel Four News tomorrow (Wednesday, 17 May) will be screening a

>>> report on the potential takeover of a Derbyshire GP practice by an

>>> American multi-national, which could have drastic implications for

>>> Amicus Health members and the public at large.

>>>

May 17, 2006

We are facing hugh and grave challenges to the service, with the financial deficits there are planned cuts both in service provision and staff numbers across the Country. The DH clearly has not done a U turn on its "privatisation of the NHS", despite the rhetoric we heard following the withdrawal of the Crisp letter and it seems now that the "RCN challenge" was indeed a hollow victory. Certainly across many regions many clinical posts are being frozen.

What are our professional leaders doing and what about our PEC nurses, as each organisation has elected these on to the committees, who are making the decision?

Who needs to be held to accountable??

Yas Re: {Virus?} RE: {Spam?} two media events

I hate to spoil a good story but it is worth remembering that we are where we are today because of the CPHVA.

It was the CPHVA who lobbied the government to deregulate health visiting in 2001. Government ministers, especially Hutton, repeatedly reminded all of us opposed to the deregulation of the profession that he and athe government had the support of the CPHVA. As a passionately committed health visitor who fought within and outside the CPHVA to retain the profession it is now my view that the profession has passed that crucial tipping point and is in terminal decline.

I have just taken over a workload of several thousand children with a staff of 2,7WTE Health Visitors all I can do is measure the suffering.

Where were you cheryl in 2001 when we demonstrated outside the TUC awhilst CPHVA Staff and Executive marched past us to endorce the death of our profession.

I now separate Amicus, the Union from the CPHVA, the least of whose sins was the betrayal of the profession, the much greater sin has been the suffering of children in this country since 2001.

I still have the archieve of that shameful time. both trade unions and the nursing profession like to rewrite history but i refuse to let the CPHVA forget their actions in 2001

Daly former professional officer CPHVA and Health Visitor

{Spam?} two media events

>>

>> The CPHVA have just announced two media events:

>>

>> Amicus/CPHVA Director, Reay and one of the UK's experts on health

>> visiting, Professor Cowley will be interviewed on BBC Four's You

>> and Yours programme between 12 noon -1.00pm tomorrow, (Wednesday, 17

>> May) on the crisis facing the health visiting profession.

>>

>> Channel Four News tomorrow (Wednesday, 17 May) will be screening a

>> report on the potential takeover of a Derbyshire GP practice by an

>> American multi-national, which could have drastic implications for

>> Amicus Health members and the public at large.

>>

May 17, 2006

hear hear yasmin where is the NMC in all of this who is protecting the public mary

{Spam?} two media events

>>

>> The CPHVA have just announced two media events:

>>

>> Amicus/CPHVA Director, Reay and one of the UK's experts on health

>> visiting, Professor Cowley will be interviewed on BBC Four's You

>> and Yours programme between 12 noon -1.00pm tomorrow, (Wednesday, 17

>> May) on the crisis facing the health visiting profession.

>>

>> Channel Four News tomorrow (Wednesday, 17 May) will be screening a

>> report on the potential takeover of a Derbyshire GP practice by an

>> American multi-national, which could have drastic implications for

>> Amicus Health members and the public at large.

>>

May 17, 2006

LEADERSHIP

– I am not sure nursing in

terms of central government staff, knows what that is. They i.e, government spent

a lot on leadership training for nurses and AHPs but I am not sure where it got

us and I also know they cannot cope with leaders who challenge and develop and

grow services – the wish to do this seems like a fallacy to me!!

I feel soap boxy tonight – I think

gat me going but where are our principles about facilitating and

influencing policy – thre is so much to do – so0 lets get on with

it!!

Margaret

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hear hear yasmin where is the NMC in all of this who is

protecting the public mary

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>> The CPHVA

have just announced two media events:

>>

>> Amicus/CPHVA

Director, Reay

and one of the UK's

experts on health

>>

visiting, Professor Cowley

will be interviewed on BBC

Four's You

>> and

Yours programme

between 12 noon -1.00pm tomorrow, (Wednesday, 17

>> May) on

the crisis facing the health visiting profession.

>>

>> Channel

Four News tomorrow (Wednesday, 17 May) will be screening a

>> report

on the potential takeover of a Derbyshire GP

practice by an

>> American

multi-national, which could have drastic implications for

>> Amicus

Health members and the public at large.

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May 18, 2006

Hi ,

I remember 2001 too, when I was one of those outside the TUC protesting. I

feel so strongly about this issue that I have been once again fired up

into action. I feel that I have a moral obligation to my students to raise

this issue, and we are indeed going to be proactive in lobbying MPs etc.

However I believe it is a wider issue,and students qualifying this year

are merely pawns in the governments wider agenda. I personally would

however like to see the CPHVA be more proactive. It is important that the

public realise what is happening to health visitors and that it does not

just come under the umbrella of 'nursing.' One of my CPTs told me the

other day that in a Trust not far from us 15 health visitors have been

given redundancy letters. How does this equate with delivering quality

care to clients?

It seems that health visiting is a 'soft target' for cuts, and that now a

whole range of people can take on 'aspects of the role'. It feels a bit

like 'never mind the quality, as long as its cheap.' My greatest concern

is for our many vulnerable clients. I don't have a problem with skill mix

if it is used for the right reasons. If however we are going to see it

established as a way of working to reduce the number of qualified health

visitors to a bare minimum, I really do believe that we are in terminal

decline. When this government came to power it recognised the importance

of health visiting in a number of documents, now it would appear that we

are too expensive, and that there is a lack of commitment (understanding)

of what health visitors can do that other members of the skill mix team

cannot.

Hewitt's perception of the health service might be a positive one.

Perhaps she would like to come and meet my students who certainly don't

share her optimism.

{Spam?} two media events

>>

>> The CPHVA have just announced two media events:

>>

>> Amicus/CPHVA Director, Reay and one of the UK's experts on health

>> visiting, Professor Cowley will be interviewed on BBC Four's You

>> and Yours programme between 12 noon -1.00pm tomorrow, (Wednesday, 17

>> May) on the crisis facing the health visiting profession.

>>

>> Channel Four News tomorrow (Wednesday, 17 May) will be screening a

>> report on the potential takeover of a Derbyshire GP practice by an

>> American multi-national, which could have drastic implications for

>> Amicus Health members and the public at large.

>>

May 18, 2006

Dear Margaret

This is so true. Leadership and

empowerment are about a lot of deconstruction of hallowed practices

that many have a vested interest in

maintaining. This includes the marketing of diseases and learned

helplessness and the agencies necessary to

deal with them. If Health Visitors and others were really

enabled and supported in their work, then

we would be moving from needs-based dependency and illness

models towards capacity-based and health

ones…in which very expensive (espy) secondary/acute

sector empires and institutions would have

a much smaller place….Ho, ho…now we have Foundation

Trusts….no power struggles there

then?!

No, many of us in primary care and in

secondary care know these time-expired imperialistic activities are broken

beyond measure. The quiet babbling brook

(if not just babbling, but also flowing more confluently through

networks such as this one) can gradually undermine the foundations,

especially at a time of such mindless

Centrism and overspend.

I have been following the issues raised

here over the last few days with both sadness and resolve.

In the end, the jobs have to be done by

people with the skills to do them. Time for a regrouping around these

issues and some resolve? Systems rely on

wearing people down though….apathy and exhaustion through

endless consultation, where are the latest

entrants into the profession in their thinking on all this?

VBW

Chris

www.primhe.org

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Sent: 17 May 2006 21:04

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LEADERSHIP

– I am not sure nursing in

terms of central government staff, knows what that is. They i.e,

government spent a lot on leadership training for nurses and AHPs but I am not

sure where it got us and I also know they cannot cope with leaders who

challenge and develop and grow services – the wish to do this seems like

a fallacy to me!!

I feel soap boxy tonight

– I think gat me going but where are our principles about

facilitating and influencing policy – thre is so much to do – so0

lets get on with it!!

Margaret

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of Daly

Sent: 17 May 2006 20:25

Subject: Re: {Virus?} RE: {Spam?}

two media events

hear hear yasmin where is the NMC in all of this who

is protecting the public mary

{Spam?} two media events

>>

The CPHVA have just announced two media events:

>>

Amicus/CPHVA Director, Reay and one of the UK's experts on health

>>

visiting, Professor Cowley will be interviewed on BBC Four's You

>>

and Yours programme between 12 noon -1.00pm tomorrow, (Wednesday, 17

>>

May) on the crisis facing the health visiting profession.

>>

Channel Four News tomorrow (Wednesday, 17 May) will be screening a

>>

report on the potential takeover of a Derbyshire GP practice by an

>>

American multi-national, which could have drastic implications for

>>

Amicus Health members and the public at large.

>>

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