Re: Re: Before Natural Perfumery, I....

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Edited to correct topposting!

First libby wrote:

>> and rose has over 2000 chemical components, of which they can

>> synthesize only 50.

>>

>> L

Then On Sep 28, 2006, at 12:09 PM, Tisserand wrote:

> Libby, you are not alone in believing this, in fact it has become

> something of a myth (and

> the number keeps getting bigger!) but rose otto contains in the

> region of 300

> constituents, a few of which have not yet been identified.

>

> Tisserand

Then libby wrote:

oooh..ok!! thanks robert!!!

L

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At 03:09 PM 9/28/2006, you wrote:

> > and rose has over 2000 chemical components, of which they can

> > synthesize only 50.

> >

> > L

> >

>

>Libby, you are not alone in believing this, in fact it has become

>something of a myth (and

>the number keeps getting bigger!) but rose otto contains in the region of 300

>constituents, a few of which have not yet been identified.

>

> Tisserand

Ah, those aromatherapy myths!

This reminds me, in an oblique way, of a bit I saw of Dr. Duke, famed

ethnobotanist of the USDA, on TV. The program was taking a dim view of the

push to " standardize " herbs. Dr. Duke said " I had my cup of coffee this

morning, and I don't know if it had 200 or 60 mg. of caffeine, but all I

know is I got my jolt, and that's all that matter. "

Anya

http://anyasgarden.com/perfumes.htm Parfums Natural

http://artisannaturalperfumers.com The Artisan Natural Perfumers Guild

http://.com The Premier Natural Perfume Site Gateway

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At 05:54 PM 9/28/2006, you wrote:

>

>In my twenties I coined the name Patchouli from my brother. I

>would carry a bottle around with me and you know what patchouli is

>like. I'm still working out how little to use in a perfume blend oh

>my god less no even less even less jeeeepers.

Down, down, down with the patch, . It " grows " in a blend after mixing,

so you have to age it and reassess it.

>I think my nose has gotten more sensitive to the wrong smells (is this

>possible) especially cleaners and clothes detergents. I can get a

>headache from smelling peoples clothes that use a heavily fragranced

>detergent. Maybe after smelling the good stuff My nose has become a

>snob.

I hate fragranced detergent. Everything is unscented except sometimes I use

some of the naturally-scented products of folks from here in the group in

my shower. Used Arlys Naturals Wake up shower gel this morning with

spearmint and rosewood. Very soft and lovely.

> > Didn't have four huge cabinets filled with aromatics, tinctures,

>bottles,

> > supplies, etc., lol.....

>Oh my this sentence makes my heart quicken and my palms go clammy.

>I've got a reasonable amount but oh it is not enough there is so much

>that I have not smelled yet and the thought of that makes me salivate.

>In time In time I've got atleast another 50 years left to dabble.

>my apologies for the length but I had not thought of " before natural

>perfumery I " and once started it is hard to stop. I could go on and

>on and on.

I've been doing it for 30 years +, so you still have time. I've always made

rose and other flower and herb infusions and tinctures, collected EOs,

attars and absolutes, and since it's a business -- whoo! the exploding

cabinetry theory is made reality. Need more space!

Anya

http://anyasgarden.com/perfumes.htm Parfums Natural

http://artisannaturalperfumers.com The Artisan Natural Perfumers Guild

http://.com The Premier Natural Perfume Site Gateway

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At 06:51 PM 9/28/2006, you wrote:

>Anya I love this topic, reminds me of how essays used to start off in

>school!

>Before Natural Perfumery I was wandering around around like a lost

>soul trying to find my path in life.

>I stumbled on natural perfumery when I started White Witch. I thought

>that I would love to get a signature perfume made and I found Ayala

>Senders website when I did a google search. I corresponded with her a

>couple of times, I described the type of perfume I wanted her to

>create for me. As I was describing it, I was smelling it in my head, I

>began to think that I would love to learn how to make natural perfumes

>myself. Thats when I found Mandy Aftel's website and I began her

>course. I fell in love and here I am!

And there you are! Can't wait to sniff the first blend you make for sale,

with all the pent-up perfume visions you have in your head.

>Anya

http://anyasgarden.com/perfumes.htm Parfums Natural

http://artisannaturalperfumers.com The Artisan Natural Perfumers Guild

http://.com The Premier Natural Perfume Site Gateway

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At 08:17 AM 9/29/2006, you wrote:

>Edited to correct topposting.

>

>

>

> > I bought my first Turkish rose otto in 89 and never looked back! I

>still

> > have some of that purchase, and it's as nice today as it was then.

>

>Speaking of Health food stores...how do I know if what I am buying at

>the Health food store here is " natural,organic " ? I'm very new to all

>of this so I'm not sure what to look for and what I should buy.

We don't really cover that subject in this group, since we focus on natural

perfumery. There are that do address natural or organic,

perhaps some of our members know of them and can recommend them to you.

Anya

http://anyasgarden.com/perfumes.htm Parfums Natural

http://artisannaturalperfumers.com The Artisan Natural Perfumers Guild

http://.com The Premier Natural Perfume Site Gateway

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From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of Anya

Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 4:56 AM

Subject: Re: Re: " Before Natural Perfumery,

I.... "

This reminds me, in an oblique way, of a bit I saw of Dr.

Duke, famed

ethnobotanist of the USDA, on TV. The program was taking a dim view

of the

push to " standardize " herbs. Dr. Duke said " I had my cup of coffee

this

morning, and I don't know if it had 200 or 60 mg. of caffeine, but

all I

know is I got my jolt, and that's all that matter. "

Anya

http://anyasgarden.com/perfumes.htm

<http://anyasgarden.com/perfumes.htm> Parfums Natural

http://artisannaturalperfumers.com

<http://artisannaturalperfumers.com> The Artisan Natural Perfumers Guild

http://.com <http://.com> The

Premier Natural Perfume Site Gateway

Hi Anya,

I concur with Dr. Duke . . . It is the " whole " herb with all of its

molecules intact that is the most effective with the least amount of side

effects. This is now heavily debated in herbal circles, with many well

known herbalists and herb research organizations moving to agree with

standardization (including isolation and synthesis) in order to more readily

align CAM with allopathy. Saddens me that there isn't more impetus (and $)

to prove what Dr. Duke and others know to be true.

Be Well,

Marcia Elston http://www.wingedseed.com

" Give thanks for a little and you will find a lot. " Hausa Saying from

Nigeria

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Dr. Duke said " I had my cup of coffee this

morning, and I don't know if it had 200 or 60 mg. of caffeine, but all I

know is I got my jolt, and that's all that matter. "

Anya

>>>>>>>>>>

Love it!! he he now that brought a chuckle....... yup we all tend at times to

get too obsessive with it all and forget the simplicity .......

janita

ascent

www.hayspace.co.uk

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>>>>>>>>>>

Speaking of Health food stores...how do I know if what I am buying at

the Health food store here is " natural,organic " ? I'm very new to all

of this so I'm not sure what to look for and what I should buy.

Christie

>>>>>>>>>>..

my suggestion is don't buy at the health food store..........there are plenty of

sources from this fine forum for you to set off on the right foot.....

janita

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janita morris <heartinmymouth@...

janita

ascent

www.hayspace.co.uk

Don't know why I have put this website in at the moment as I had asked the guy

over a month ago to change some innacuracies....... I really need to get a new

one up but life at moment ...... full to bursting..... so will have to content

with this ..... hopefully will be speaking with him tonight to at least

adjust......

thanks

janita

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On Sep 30, 2006, at 1:44 AM, janita morris wrote:

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> Dr. Duke said " I had my cup of coffee this

> morning, and I don't know if it had 200 or 60 mg. of caffeine, but

> all I

> know is I got my jolt, and that's all that matter. "

>

>

> Anya

>

>

>>>>>>>>>>>

> Love it!! he he now that brought a chuckle....... yup we all

> tend at times to get too obsessive with it all and forget the

> simplicity .......

>

i love that man...i met him years ago in Dc and was happy to meet

such a person who was doing what i loved. this was back in the near

beginning of my studies.

xoxo

L