Guest guest Posted February 19, 2003 Report Share Posted February 19, 2003 That is good that there is a mini core group meeting - what was the rationale for instigating the process after 'five notifications in a year'? Ruth Re: domestic violence and child abuse workshop In Islington, the family's hv and SSd normally automatically receive a police notifcation if the police are called out to a DV incidence. If there are five police notifications in a year a meeting is held with the family's HV, a police CPO and SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2003 Report Share Posted February 19, 2003 Thanks again - I am sharing all your information with the Community Safety Officer with whom I am co-ordinating the seminar. Ruth domestic violence and child abuse workshop > > > > > > > > > In Cardiff yesterday the workshop on interagency communication in > > > complex child protection cases (domestic violence and child > abuse) > > > was lively. Since a number of SENATE members gave me food for > > thought > > > and I acknowledged this, 's and Hamilton's work > > in > > > my presentation, I offer a summary of the group work findings. > > > > > > Major issue of concern > > > · Professional boundaries inhibiting one profession from > > > keeping/accessing child protection case information - questions > of > > > ownership and custody, cultural changes needed. > > > · Intra system: closed shop attitude of some professions making > to > > > information difficult and lengthy where their own information > > systems > > > are slow and complex. > > > > > > Next steps > > > · Guidance from ACPCs on consent for a multi-agency record kept > at > > > social services District level, where cases are known, a record > for > > > families to be shared, with consent, by all agencies. > > > · The development of a universal brief assessment tool for such a > > > record. > > > · Include GPs and Education Department staff in any training > > > associated with government advice on modifying the Data > Protection > > > act etc following the Laming Report. > > > > > > Good practice > > > · Develop trust between agencies and accept the views of others > as > > > valid, keeping the welfare of the child paramount in professional > > > relationships, which may be transitory in nature. > > > · Develop a designated role for complex child protection cases > > where > > > linking information between child and adult, adult mental health > > and > > > child, is the work of someone who becomes a trusted person to > > receive > > > this information, rather than individuals doing 'detective work'. > > The > > > same role could support individuals in key decisions and allow > for > > > audit. > > > There was a great deal else covered. If anyone wants more do make > > > contact > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr Coles RGN, RHV, BA, PhD > > > Research Fellow > > > University of Wales College of Medicine > > > Department of Child Health, Community Section > > > First Floor, Academic Centre > > > Llandough Hospital > > > Cardiff CF64 2XX > > > > > > Telephone 029 2071 6933/5479 > > > e-mail ColesEW@... > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2003 Report Share Posted February 19, 2003 I work with vunerable families and asylum seekers would be interested in 's work. Do you have contact details ? Pat >From: " W Coles " <colesew@...> >Reply- > >Subject: Re: domestic violence and child abuse workshop >Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 10:19:39 GMT0BST > >Ok. Apparantly there is a new ish nurse consultant in the Cardiff and >the Vale NHS Trust for vulnerable families and who oversees health >visiting input into refuges, name >. > >On 18 Feb 2003 at 18:21, Ruth Grant wrote: > > > Wonderful - Many thanks for the inf. We are setting up another >seminar > > in June and will be in touch with these people for ideas/?possible > > participation or presentation. Ruth > > domestic violence and child abuse >workshop > > > > > > > > > > > > In Cardiff yesterday the workshop on interagency communication >in > > > > complex child protection cases (domestic violence and child > > abuse) > > > > was lively. Since a number of SENATE members gave me food for > > > thought > > > > and I acknowledged this, 's and Hamilton's >work > > > in > > > > my presentation, I offer a summary of the group work findings. > > > > > > > > Major issue of concern > > > > · Professional boundaries inhibiting one profession from > > > > keeping/accessing child protection case information - questions > > of > > > > ownership and custody, cultural changes needed. > > > > · Intra system: closed shop attitude of some professions making > > to > > > > information difficult and lengthy where their own information > > > systems > > > > are slow and complex. > > > > > > > > Next steps > > > > · Guidance from ACPCs on consent for a multi-agency record kept > > at > > > > social services District level, where cases are known, a record > > for > > > > families to be shared, with consent, by all agencies. > > > > · The development of a universal brief assessment tool for such >a > > > > record. > > > > · Include GPs and Education Department staff in any training > > > > associated with government advice on modifying the Data > > Protection > > > > act etc following the Laming Report. > > > > > > > > Good practice > > > > · Develop trust between agencies and accept the views of others > > as > > > > valid, keeping the welfare of the child paramount in >professional > > > > relationships, which may be transitory in nature. > > > > · Develop a designated role for complex child protection cases > > > where > > > > linking information between child and adult, adult mental >health > > > and > > > > child, is the work of someone who becomes a trusted person to > > > receive > > > > this information, rather than individuals doing 'detective >work'. > > > The > > > > same role could support individuals in key decisions and allow > > for > > > > audit. > > > > There was a great deal else covered. If anyone wants more do >make > > > > contact > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr Coles RGN, RHV, BA, PhD > > > > Research Fellow > > > > University of Wales College of Medicine > > > > Department of Child Health, Community Section > > > > First Floor, Academic Centre > > > > Llandough Hospital > > > > Cardiff CF64 2XX > > > > > > > > Telephone 029 2071 6933/5479 > > > > e-mail ColesEW@... > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2003 Report Share Posted February 20, 2003 The Cardiff and Vale NHS Trust Primary Care Directorate is at Lansdowne Hospital, Cardiff. Telephone 029 2093 2908 or the health visitor number there may help: 029 2023 3651. If this doesn't work let me know. or ring Judith Shankleman as below, who told me about it. On 19 Feb 2003 at 19:10, patricia illingworth wrote: > I work with vunerable families and asylum seekers would be interested in > 's work. Do you have contact details ? > Pat > > > > > > > >From: " W Coles " <colesew@...> > >Reply- > > > >Subject: Re: domestic violence and child abuse workshop > >Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 10:19:39 GMT0BST > > > >Ok. Apparantly there is a new ish nurse consultant in the Cardiff and > >the Vale NHS Trust for vulnerable families and who oversees health > >visiting input into refuges, name > >. > > > >On 18 Feb 2003 at 18:21, Ruth Grant wrote: > > > > > Wonderful - Many thanks for the inf. We are setting up another > >seminar > > > in June and will be in touch with these people for ideas/?possible > > > participation or presentation. Ruth > > > domestic violence and child abuse > >workshop > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In Cardiff yesterday the workshop on interagency communication > >in > > > > > complex child protection cases (domestic violence and child > > > abuse) > > > > > was lively. Since a number of SENATE members gave me food for > > > > thought > > > > > and I acknowledged this, 's and Hamilton's > >work > > > > in > > > > > my presentation, I offer a summary of the group work findings. > > > > > > > > > > Major issue of concern > > > > > · Professional boundaries inhibiting one profession from > > > > > keeping/accessing child protection case information - questions > > > of > > > > > ownership and custody, cultural changes needed. > > > > > · Intra system: closed shop attitude of some professions making > > > to > > > > > information difficult and lengthy where their own information > > > > systems > > > > > are slow and complex. > > > > > > > > > > Next steps > > > > > · Guidance from ACPCs on consent for a multi-agency record kept > > > at > > > > > social services District level, where cases are known, a record > > > for > > > > > families to be shared, with consent, by all agencies. > > > > > · The development of a universal brief assessment tool for such > >a > > > > > record. > > > > > · Include GPs and Education Department staff in any training > > > > > associated with government advice on modifying the Data > > > Protection > > > > > act etc following the Laming Report. > > > > > > > > > > Good practice > > > > > · Develop trust between agencies and accept the views of others > > > as > > > > > valid, keeping the welfare of the child paramount in > >professional > > > > > relationships, which may be transitory in nature. > > > > > · Develop a designated role for complex child protection cases > > > > where > > > > > linking information between child and adult, adult mental > >health > > > > and > > > > > child, is the work of someone who becomes a trusted person to > > > > receive > > > > > this information, rather than individuals doing 'detective > >work'. > > > > The > > > > > same role could support individuals in key decisions and allow > > > for > > > > > audit. > > > > > There was a great deal else covered. If anyone wants more do > >make > > > > > contact > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr Coles RGN, RHV, BA, PhD > > > > > Research Fellow > > > > > University of Wales College of Medicine > > > > > Department of Child Health, Community Section > > > > > First Floor, Academic Centre > > > > > Llandough Hospital > > > > > Cardiff CF64 2XX > > > > > > > > > > Telephone 029 2071 6933/5479 > > > > > e-mail ColesEW@... > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2003 Report Share Posted February 27, 2003 Hello, , We are having a new e-mail system next week so I am revisiting my e-mails before deleting. My new address is linda.scott@.... Aside from this, I am really interested in the issues that were raised at the conference in Cardiff. We have had to respond to very young babies as the subject of local part 8 reviews as being identified as our highest area of risk and personally I think the system developed here in the south of Northamptonshire is effective although if someone would like to come and formally evaluate it then that might be worth considering. Our system fits the second bullet point under the good practice heading whereby I receive all information from acute and community trusts as a central facilitator and advisor, not as a `social detective`. As you know the hospital trust has adopted a two-part Family Support and Child Protection record or report - whichever most fits the purpose. Given the range of professionals in an acute trust who work with either child or parent, the easier and clearer the information, the better. Briefly, Part one consists of limited, basic information and includes contact details, significant events and a vulnerabilities overview that allows bullet-pointed factual information to be recorded in such a way as to assess needs and risks at a glance. We also use this for discharge planning and supervision purposes where need and risk have been identified. Part two is only for those workers who have detailed information relating to the child and/or carer that would assist the production of a core assessment. For unborn babies and those most at risk of harm we have an ACPC Good Practice Guidance on Infant Vulnerabilities and an evidence base to boot which responds to clinical governance and NSF developments. I am hoping to extend this to the older child. I am in a position to receive family support and child protection information from community and acute trusts and this method assists me to marry up information and to ensure that interventions are as expected although this has taken three and a half years to reach it`s current state yet still the community trusts cannot live with the model used here in the hospital which returns to your first point of professional boundaries. I think this has more to do with those who have not had day to day responsibility of managing this type of information not appreciating the nature and intensity of the beast. After all, any system is only as good as the people willing to work with it and often not until there is a clear understanding of why changed approaches are required will they work with it. The amount of training cannot be underestimated and I am in the process of writing up the vulnerabilities information at the moment. As Chair of our local Children in Domestic Violence group, , I wondered if you would like to speak at a conference in this part of the World in the not too distance future, Very kind regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2003 Report Share Posted February 27, 2003 SENATE, there is a lecture in London 'The Impact of Violence on Infants'. By infants the lecturer is considering 0-3 years and violence obviously includes domestic violence. The lecture is on Saturday 8th March at 2pm the Tavistock Clinic , Belsize Lane, London, NW 3. It is preceded by lunch at 12.45pm on the top floor of the Tavistock Clinic. ( It is also a good opportunity to network about infant mental health in general).The total cost (including lunch) is £30 for members of the Association for Infant Mental Health and £40 for non members. The lecturer is Dr Joy Osofsky who is a world renowned specialist in this field. If you wish to come please email rosalind.bennet@... or you could risk paying on the door but as numbers are limited this may be a bit risky Re: domestic violence and child abuse workshop > Hello, , > > We are having a new e-mail system next week so I am revisiting my e-mails > before deleting. > > My new address is linda.scott@.... > > > > Aside from this, I am really interested in the issues that were raised at the > conference in Cardiff. > > We have had to respond to very young babies as the subject of local part 8 > reviews as being identified as our highest area of risk and personally I > think the system developed here in the south of Northamptonshire is effective > although if someone would like to come and formally evaluate it then that > might be worth considering. > > Our system fits the second bullet point under the good practice heading > whereby I receive all information from acute and community trusts as a > central facilitator and advisor, not as a `social detective`. > > As you know the hospital trust has adopted a two-part Family Support and > Child Protection record or report - whichever most fits the purpose. Given > the range of professionals in an acute trust who work with either child or > parent, the easier and clearer the information, the better. > > Briefly, Part one consists of limited, basic information and includes contact > details, significant events and a vulnerabilities overview that allows > bullet-pointed factual information to be recorded in such a way as to assess > needs and risks at a glance. We also use this for discharge planning and > supervision purposes where need and risk have been identified. > > > Part two is only for those workers who have detailed information relating to > the child and/or carer that would assist the production of a core assessment. > > > For unborn babies and those most at risk of harm we have an ACPC Good > Practice Guidance on Infant Vulnerabilities and an evidence base to boot > which responds to clinical governance and NSF developments. > > I am hoping to extend this to the older child. > > I am in a position to receive family support and child protection information > from community and acute trusts and this method assists me to marry up > information and to ensure that interventions are as expected although this > has taken three and a half years to reach it`s current state yet still the > community trusts cannot live with the model used here in the hospital which > returns to your first point of professional boundaries. > > I think this has more to do with those who have not had day to day > responsibility of managing this type of information not appreciating the > nature and intensity of the beast. After all, any system is only as good as > the people willing to work with it and often not until there is a clear > understanding of why changed approaches are required will they work with it. > The amount of training cannot be underestimated and I am in the process of > writing up the vulnerabilities information at the moment. > > As Chair of our local Children in Domestic Violence group, , I wondered > if you would like to speak at a conference in this part of the World in the > not too distance future, > > Very kind regards, > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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