Guest guest Posted June 9, 2006 Report Share Posted June 9, 2006 If you are on drugs of any kind you should not give blood. They person who gets the blood may be allergic to that med and have a big problem. May your pressure be low! CE Grim, BS(Chem/Math), MS(Biochem), MD. Board Certified in Internal Medicine, Geriatrics and Hypertension Former Epidemiologic Intelligence Services Officer (Lt. Comdr.), CDC Specializing in Difficult to Manage High Blood Pressure Clinical Professor of Medicine, Medical College of Wisconsin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 In a message dated 6/10/06 5:05:39 AM, bayabas76@... writes: Dr. Grim, If not through being a donor, has blood reduction through extraction been considered by medical science to address the increased volume due to salt retention by PA? What considerations I should take if I embark on this drug less approach? Perhaps with DASHing, this could be the simplest approach to help us with PA. Well it seems to me you will need to be bled every few days as the body quickly replaces the volume and blood cells. Might get tiring to do it 2 x a week. Most places wont take blood from you this often. May your pressure be low! CE Grim, BS(Chem/Math), MS(Biochem), MD. Board Certified in Internal Medicine, Geriatrics and Hypertension Former Epidemiologic Intelligence Services Officer (Lt. Comdr.), CDC Specializing in Difficult to Manage High Blood Pressure Clinical Professor of Medicine, Medical College of Wisconsin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 Nope he had pneumoia and one of the ways to treat it then was to bleed the pt to let out the evil humors. His BP went to zero. May your pressure be low! CE Grim, BS(Chem/Math), MS(Biochem), MD. Board Certified in Internal Medicine, Geriatrics and Hypertension Former Epidemiologic Intelligence Services Officer (Lt. Comdr.), CDC Specializing in Difficult to Manage High Blood Pressure Clinical Professor of Medicine, Medical College of Wisconsin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 Hi : I agree totally. I used to be a blood donor. Now that I have PA and on Spiro I think my blood is no longer good. (right Dr. Grim?). I am willing to give it a try if there was a way though. Farah On 6/9/06, bayabas76 <bayabas76@...> wrote: Hi Farrah,Indeed it does make a lot of sense from the DIY point of view. Thething is, as Dr. Grim has affirmed, there no good studies on this yet.I have been thinking of trying this out myself. But as a known former hypertensive patient, I was always rejected as a blood donor. Thisapproach to PA is both a win-win solution and simple.So, Washington was had Conn's like us here. > >> >> > In a message dated 6/7/06 9:31:14 AM, bayabas76@... writes:> >> >> > In the case of PA, when the kidneys retain sodium and result in > > increased blood volume, I am wondering if one way to reduce blood> > volume is by making frequent blood donation? Could we consider this> > approach Dr. Grim?> >> > > >> >> > I have never seen any good trials on this tho.> >> >> >> > May your pressure be low!> >> > CE Grim, BS(Chem/Math), MS(Biochem), MD. > > Board Certified in Internal Medicine, Geriatrics and Hypertension> > Former Epidemiologic Intelligence Services Officer (Lt. Comdr.), CDC> > Specializing in Difficult to Manage High Blood Pressure > > Clinical Professor of Medicine, Medical College of Wisconsin> >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 Dont they check the blood before giving it to others? After all dont they have to check for various types of viruses and other things before the blood before any transfusions? On 6/10/06, bayabas76 <bayabas76@...> wrote: Dr. Grim,If not through being a donor, has blood reduction through extractionbeen considered by medical science to address the increased volume dueto salt retention by PA? What considerations I should take if I embark on this drug less approach? Perhaps with DASHing, this could be the simplest approach tohelp us with PA. >> If you are on drugs of any kind you should not give blood. Theyperson who > gets the blood may be allergic to that med and have a big problem.> > > > May your pressure be low! > > CE Grim, BS(Chem/Math), MS(Biochem), MD.> Board Certified in Internal Medicine, Geriatrics and Hypertension> Former Epidemiologic Intelligence Services Officer (Lt. Comdr.), CDC> Specializing in Difficult to Manage High Blood Pressure > Clinical Professor of Medicine, Medical College of Wisconsin> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 Actually there are very few meds that would cause you to be disqualified as a blood donor by the Red Cross, at least here in Michigan. You can donate as long as your systolic is below 180 and diastolic below 100. You must be in reasonably good health with any chronic condition under control. a > > > If you are on drugs of any kind you should not > give blood. They > > person who > > > gets the blood may be allergic to that med and > have a big problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 Thanks a,I'll also check with our local Red Cross chapter. Farah On 6/10/06, a Hall <shahall@...> wrote: Actually there are very few meds that would cause youto be disqualified as a blood donor by the Red Cross,at least here in Michigan. You can donate as long asyour systolic is below 180 and diastolic below 100. You must be in reasonably good health with any chroniccondition under control. a > > > If you are on drugs of any kind you should not> give blood. They> > person who> > > gets the blood may be allergic to that med and> have a big problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2006 Report Share Posted June 11, 2006 Well what do they know in MIch? ;-) I dont wand blood from a person taking an ACE. May your pressure be low! CE Grim, BS(Chem/Math), MS(Biochem), MD. Board Certified in Internal Medicine, Geriatrics and Hypertension Former Epidemiologic Intelligence Services Officer (Lt. Comdr.), CDC Specializing in Difficult to Manage High Blood Pressure Clinical Professor of Medicine, Medical College of Wisconsin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2006 Report Share Posted June 11, 2006 In a message dated 6/10/06 1:35:01 PM, farahbar@... writes: Dont they check the blood before giving it to others? After all dont they have to check for various types of viruses and other things before the blood before any transfusions? They dont check for drugs-do for hepatitis and HIV. May your pressure be low! CE Grim, BS(Chem/Math), MS(Biochem), MD. Board Certified in Internal Medicine, Geriatrics and Hypertension Former Epidemiologic Intelligence Services Officer (Lt. Comdr.), CDC Specializing in Difficult to Manage High Blood Pressure Clinical Professor of Medicine, Medical College of Wisconsin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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