Re: Question from my daughter

[Guest guest]

In answer to your dd's question, I think it's a good idea, if she *has* to

do some new OCD thing, to mess it up in some way, make OCD wait a bit, or

etc. just to keep OCD on notice who's boss :-)

Ellen, you said in your other post that your daughter is sick right now. In

our household, when dd is sick, it's a different situation and we get by any

way we can. I've explained to my dd that OCD likes to take advantage when

her defenses are low such as when she's sick, tired or so on. Once she's

better, she won't have so much difficulty putting OCD back in its place.

If you decide to answer more OCD questions in view that your dd is sick

right now, do it in a funny way--answer in French or in the style of a news

anchor or anything else that comes to mind--try to take some of the doom and

gloom out of the situation and poke gentle fun at stupid OCD who is taking

unfair advantage of your daughter since she's sick.

Take care,

Kathy R. in Indiana

p.s. My daughter, almost 12, says hi and hang in there to your dd :-)

She's reading over my shoulder and truth to tell, rolling her eyes at my

advice LOL.

----- Original Message -----

From: " musicgirl9395 " <musicgirl9395@...

> Hi,

> My daughter is having a hard time tonight. She wants to add on to some

> of her rituals tonight. I dont like to answer all these questions.

>

> My daughter wants to ask this group if you think it's OK to do what the

> bully (OCD) says at nighttime, even if it is a new habit. And talk

> about it in the morning and make a plan to get rid of it. Thanks.

> Ellen

[Guest guest]

No, it's not okay. The OCD acts like a two-year-old does when it doesn't get

its way and starts asking for all kinds of things. I have experienced this

with my oldest daughter. When we cut off one compulsion, others immediately

pop up and we have finally learned to say " no " to them too. It isn't easy

because we feel so awful at that point but we know it's the right thing to do.

Kelley in NV

[Guest guest]

Sheri,

Thank you so much.. that is what I told her.. but.. she wanted to hear it

from others..you know.. Mom does not always know best. <G>

Thanks!

Kim

In a message dated 4/27/2009 8:58:10 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

vaccineinfo@... writes:

>Is it possible to be a nurse, and avoid being vaccinated?

no, it is NOT possible - at least in a hospital (other places maybe)

School too will require things, but may be able to get school

exemptions - depends on the state, if they have exemptions for colleges

For hospitals

You can refuse hep b vax because OSHA has an exemption you can take

But otherwise they demand MMR in most hospitals and starting to demand

others

Maybe non hospitals

But that isn't the only problem with nursing - it puts her right in

the medical model and it is not about healing. I don't advise anyone

to be a nurse anymore.

You are between the patient and administration and can't do much of

what you really want to do to help someone heal.

I suggest acupuncture school, homeopathy school, massage school,

naturopathic school, chiropractic school - one of those

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Doris,

Thank you.. She had vaccines up to age 5..before I knew any better.. but

none since. She has been pressured to get some, but thankfully has not.

Thanks!

Kim

In a message dated 4/27/2009 10:53:14 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

wyked_celt@... writes:

And working in patient, you might be able to get around the vaccines if

you could prove you've had the disease, which they would require a titer, but

even with that they really try and push some vaccines. I declined the

tetanus last year with the new job and they were fine with it but you never

know what they will push for and what they will let slide but to be completely

unvax'd, would not happen.

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At 05:04 PM 4/27/2009, you wrote:

>Is it possible to be a nurse, and avoid being vaccinated?

no, it is NOT possible - at least in a hospital (other places maybe)

School too will require things, but may be able to get school

exemptions - depends on the state, if they have exemptions for colleges

For hospitals

You can refuse hep b vax because OSHA has an exemption you can take

But otherwise they demand MMR in most hospitals and starting to demand others

Maybe non hospitals

But that isn't the only problem with nursing - it puts her right in

the medical model and it is not about healing. I don't advise anyone

to be a nurse anymore.

You are between the patient and administration and can't do much of

what you really want to do to help someone heal.

I suggest acupuncture school, homeopathy school, massage school,

naturopathic school, chiropractic school - one of those

Sheri

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[Guest guest]

I don't think any school would let you do clinicals w/o being vaccinated because

you are around patients. And you have to do clinicals to go through nursing

school. If I had to do it over again, and I've been an RN for 8 yrs now, I would

become an ND. There's some really good schools for it, one being Bastyr here in

Seattle (they also offer Chinese Medicine degrees and other cool alternative

degrees) and Bastyr is getting pretty respected here in the MD world (in Seattle

anyways) because they turn out quality practitioners, they do research, and more

allopaths are realizing the benefit of alternative medicine (again maybe it's

just here in Seattle). And working in patient, you might be able to get around

the vaccines if you could prove you've had the disease, which they would require

a titer, but even with that they really try and push some vaccines. I declined

the tetanus last year with the new job and they were fine with it but you never

know what they will push for and what they will let slide but to be completely

unvax'd, would not happen.

~doris