[NVIC] ABC 20/20 Report on Vaccine Risks Angers Parents

[Guest guest]

February 26, 2007

National Vaccine Information Center

e-news

" “We need to find out why so many highly vaccinated children are so

sick.... .we didn’t [used to] see autistic children. Autism was so rare,

most people had never heard of i.... .I don’t think I’ve scared anybody

stupid. We do not tell people to vaccinate or not to vaccinate.... . I

don’t think you can say good or bad, pro or against.... t’s a complex

issue.” - Comments by Barbara Loe Fisher during the ABC Feb. 23, 2007

" 20/20 " Stossel special

" My name is . I am a parent of two young boys and I have been

actively researching vaccines for 3 years. I saw that segment on " 20/20 "

regarding vaccines and I was appalled at the slanted spin they put on the

vaccine safety issue. The only thing that Barbara Loe Fisher is guilty of

is providing parents with the wealth of information regarding vaccine

safety that the pharmaceutical companies, the FDA and the CDC conveniently

leave out. Therefore, she is simply helping parents to make INFORMED

decisions regarding vaccines, not scaring them into not getting vaccinated

as Stossel puts it. The pharmaceutical companies and the government do

not want parents to be informed. They want them to remain ignorant and

obedient. Therefore, Barbara Loe Fisher, who has saved countless numbers of

children from death and injuries related to vaccines, was once again

demonized by the pharmaceutical companies and the media and I am absolutely

disgusted by this. I just want it to be known that there are infinite

numbers of parents just like me who have an undying gratitude and support

for Barbara Loe Fisher and the NVIC for their efforts to help parents make

a truly informed decision about vaccines. " - Email to NVIC on Feb. 24, 2007

at 9:55 a.m., among the many supportive emails and telephone calls NVIC has

received since the " 20/20 " broadcast

" This was a very one sided story. If vaccines are so safe, then why does a

portion of the cost of each vaccine ($0.75) given go into the National

Vaccine Injury Compensation Program set up by Congress and DHHS? The fund

has about $2 billion, and has paid out about $1.5 billion to over 1800

families whose children were injured or killed by a vaccine. The fund was

designed to shield vaccine manufacturers from expensive lawsuits. How can a

news program do a story about the complex issue of vaccines, and not

discuss this, or interview any parent who has had a child harmed or killed

by vaccines? Very poor reporting. " - Email to ABC " 20/20 " on Feb. 24 at

9:58 p.m., among the many emails ABC received since the " 20/20 " broadcast

ABC News Poll (as of 2/26/07) :

Yes, I am worried that some vaccinations could be harmful: 1,236

No, I believe the benefits of vaccination far outweigh any risks: 415

Total: 1,671

Barbara Loe Fisher Commentary:

First, a heartfelt thank you to the many supportive emails and telephone

calls mothers and fathers have made to the National Vaccine Information

Center since the Feb. 23 ABC " 20/20 " broadcast from 9 to 11 p.m. EST. and

about NVIC to ABC. I understand how upset many parents and grandparents are

about the way that NVIC was portrayed and the misinformation about vaccine

risks which was communicated during the segment.

Although I am disappointed by the superficial treatment of the subject of

vaccine risks and the absence of a discussion about the violation of

informed consent rights when it comes to mandatory vaccination laws, not to

mention factual errors (the Institute of Medicine clearly DID confirm in

1994 that there is a causal relationship between DPT vaccine and permanent

brain dysfunction), ABC at least acknowledged the national debate about

vaccine safety. For that, we can thank Stossel for his hyperactive,

short sighted report.

My friends, this sacred cow is not going to be put back into the barn. It

is out and running around the farm yard. And for every parent who watched

" 20/20 " and believed that Stossel and Offit were right, there was

a parent who became informed there was a controversy about vaccination and

something to think about. Maybe some of them will check out www.NVIC.org

and find out NVIC is simply trying to inform people about the risks and

complications of diseases and vaccines in order to empower them to be able

to speak intelligently with health care professionals and make a better

educated vaccination decision for themselves or their children.

The truth about vaccine risks will shine bright and clear at the end of

the day, no matter how many try to suppress or distort it. Adversity and

challenge can serve to illuminate the truth.

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Should Parents Worry About Vaccinating Their Children?

Fears of Vaccinations Rise, Diseases Reemerge

ABC News

February 22, 2007

By JOHN STOSSEL, KRISTINA KENDALL and PATRICK McMENAMIN

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Feb. 22, 2007— - When we worry, we worry the most about our children.

Everyone wants to keep them safe.

When politicians want us to fall in line, they always talk about saving the

children. And our feelings about kids have created very intense emotions

about vaccines. Some people say vaccines are dangerous. F. Kennedy

Jr. said that they have " poisoned an entire generation of American children. "

Kennedy has added his voice to the chorus of angry parents who are

convinced that mercury in vaccines causes harm to children.

" It's causing IQ loss, mental retardation, speech delay, language delay,

ADD, hyperactivity, " he said.

Worrying About Vaccinations

Barbara Loe Fisher, who heads the Vaccine Information Center, goes on

television to alert parents about the dangers of vaccines.

On the " Today Show, " she said, " We need to find out why so many of our

highly vaccinated children are so sick. "

The biggest worry today is autism. Before kids received so many vaccines,

says Fisher, " you didn't see autistic children. Autism was so rare. Most

people had never heard of it. "

And the protestors blame the vaccines.

'Vaccines Don't Cause Autism'

Dr. Offit is the chief of infectious diseases at Children's Hospital

of Philadelphia. He's also in the vaccine business. He developed and

patented the rotavirus vaccine.

" I think that it's perfectly reasonable to be skeptical about anything you

put into your body, including vaccines, " said Offit. " And vaccines do have

side effects. But vaccines don't cause autism. "

Offit can say that with confidence because the National Academy of Sciences

recently reviewed the science. They concluded that 19 major studies,

tracking thousands of kids, all show no link between vaccines and autism.

" The question has been raised, it's been answered, " said Offit. " Vaccines

don't cause autism. "

Then why are so many kids being diagnosed with autism? Because kids we once

said had other conditions are now being called autistic.

As researchers from the March of Dimes put it, " improvements in detection

and changes in diagnosis account for the observed increase in autism. "

Their data on autism rates in California showed that the increase in autism

diagnoses almost exactly matched a decline in cases of retardation: autism

prevalence increased by 9.1 cases per 10,000 children, while mental

retardation dropped by 9.3 per 10,000.

" People that we once called quirky or geeky or nerdy are now called

autistic, " said Offit. " Because when you give that label of say, autistic

spectrum disorder, you allow that child then to qualify for services which

otherwise they wouldn't be qualified to get. "

Not a New Concern

Two decades ago, " 20/20 " did a report which said that the whooping cough

vaccine may lead to permanent neurological disorder and Sudden Infant Death

Syndrome (SIDS).

Personal injury lawyer McDowell said vaccine makers were victimizing

kids, and more than 20 years later, he still says the vaccine makers put

money before safety.

" There's no dispute about that. They were making so much money off the old

vaccine they didn't really have any incentive to improve it. "

McDowell made money too. The lawyer won lots of lawsuits.

" I made -- a good chunk of money, " he said.

The vaccine makers did revise the whooping cough vaccine and the new

version was approved by the FDA in 1991.

" The old (whooping cough) vaccine was probably our most reactogenic

vaccine, which is to say that it had the highest rate of side effects, "

says Offit. " I mean, it could cause seizures with fever -- although it

didn't cause epilepsy, meaning the permanent seizures --[but] it certainly

could trigger seizures..... it caused pain and tenderness at the site of

injection..... it caused floppy baby syndrome, a so-called 'hypo-tonic,

hypo-response' syndrome. It caused persistent, inconsolable crying. And so,

there was always an interest in trying to make that vaccine safer. But the

science had to catch up to that. "

Those serious side effects were temporary, not the permanent conditions for

which lawyers often sued vaccine makers. In fact, comprehensive studies

also reviewed by the National Academy of Sciences did not find that the old

vaccine caused SIDS or permanent brain damage.

The Benefits of Vaccinations

Lost in this debate is the disease the vaccine prevents. Whooping cough

racks a baby's body with violent fits of coughing. In its most extreme

form, it kills. But after " 20/20' " s vaccine report, many parents told their

doctors, " I'm scared of your vaccine. "

I asked Dr. Saphir, my children's pediatrician, what he thought of

that program.

" It was certainly alarmist, " he said.

In fact, when my daughter got a fever after one of the vaccines, he

decided not to give her the final shot, and a short time afterward, she got

whooping cough.

Dr. Saphir said that the fact that I was a " 20/20 " correspondent made him

even more anxious about giving my daughter the vaccine.

My daughter recovered from her whooping cough. She was surprised to hear

that our reporting could confuse parents and influence doctors.

" Parents go in and force their physicians to agree to not give the vaccines

even though the physicians say, you're making a stupid decision? " she

asked. " Then you guys are doing a really bad thing. "

Parent Suzanne Walther agrees. On internet sites, Walther read so many

horror stories about vaccines, that so she postponed vaccinating her

daughter, .

" Some of the vaccine stories said that if I had my child vaccinated they

were going to die of SIDS, " she said. " I'm very protective of my children,

I don't want to do something to them that might cause them harm. "

But not vaccinating caused harm. got very sick with spinal

meningitis.

" Our pediatrician put us in an ambulance to go to Vanderbilt Hospital

immediately, " said Walther. " It is a deadly disease. There's a huge risk of

deafness, blindness, it's very painful. "

Resurgence of Old Diseases

recovered, but she's one of many kids who are coming down

with diseases doctors once thought were nearly eradicated, like mumps,

measles, and whooping cough.

These diseases are coming back because pockets of frightened parents won't

vaccinate their kids, some, after they search for information and end up on

websites like Barbara Loe Fisher's. I asked Fisher about how sites like

hers scare parents.

" You're really the vaccines' scare center. When you scare people stupid,

and they don't get vaccinated, that spreads nasty diseases, " I said.

" I don't think I've scared anybody stupid. We do not tell people to

vaccinate or not vaccinate, " she replied.

Fisher says she can't say whether vaccines are " good or bad. "

" You can't say vaccines are good, vaccines haven't done more good than

harm? " I asked?

" It's a complex issue, " she said.

The Fear Factor

McDowell is now thinking about filing new lawsuits saying vaccine companies

caused autism. I told him I thought he was an opportunistic hustler,

preying on worried parents. McDowell disagreed.

" That's not the way I look at it. I look at it that I'm doing a service for

the public in these immunizations. "

He said of the whopping cough vaccine that, " if there hadn't been the

litigation, they'd still be using the same old vaccine and causing a lot

more serious problems. "

Nonsense, says Offit. Lawyers didn't make the whooping cough vaccine

better. " Science is always a process of evolution, and I think we had to

get to the point in science where we could make the kind of purified

products at commercial level that, that we couldn't do before, " Offit said.

The lawsuits " are a great example of just what can happen when, when

lawyers go crazy.... I think there's a certain profiteering that comes

with, with fear. "

So I told McDowell I thought he was part of the Fear Industrial Complex,

scaring people and making money off of it. After a long pause, he said,

" True. "

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[Guest guest]

When are reports by Stossel NOT hyperactive and short-sighted?...

On Wednesday, February 28, 2007, at 11:54 AM, Sheri Nakken wrote:

>

> February 26, 2007

>

>

>

> National Vaccine Information Center

> e-news

>

>

>

>

> " “We need to find out why so many highly vaccinated children are so

> sick.... .we didn’t [used to] see autistic children. Autism was so

> rare,

> most people had never heard of i.... .I don’t think I’ve scared anybody

> stupid. We do not tell people to vaccinate or not to vaccinate.... . I

> don’t think you can say good or bad, pro or against.... t’s a complex

> issue.” - Comments by Barbara Loe Fisher during the ABC Feb. 23, 2007

> " 20/20 " Stossel special

>

> " My name is . I am a parent of two young boys and I have been

> actively researching vaccines for 3 years. I saw that segment on

> " 20/20 "

> regarding vaccines and I was appalled at the slanted spin they put on

> the

> vaccine safety issue. The only thing that Barbara Loe Fisher is guilty

> of

> is providing parents with the wealth of information regarding vaccine

> safety that the pharmaceutical companies, the FDA and the CDC

> conveniently

> leave out. Therefore, she is simply helping parents to make INFORMED

> decisions regarding vaccines, not scaring them into not getting

> vaccinated

> as Stossel puts it. The pharmaceutical companies and the

> government do

> not want parents to be informed. They want them to remain ignorant and

> obedient. Therefore, Barbara Loe Fisher, who has saved countless

> numbers of

> children from death and injuries related to vaccines, was once again

> demonized by the pharmaceutical companies and the media and I am

> absolutely

> disgusted by this. I just want it to be known that there are infinite

> numbers of parents just like me who have an undying gratitude and

> support

> for Barbara Loe Fisher and the NVIC for their efforts to help parents

> make

> a truly informed decision about vaccines. " - Email to NVIC on Feb. 24,

> 2007

> at 9:55 a.m., among the many supportive emails and telephone calls

> NVIC has

> received since the " 20/20 " broadcast

>

> " This was a very one sided story. If vaccines are so safe, then why

> does a

> portion of the cost of each vaccine ($0.75) given go into the National

> Vaccine Injury Compensation Program set up by Congress and DHHS? The

> fund

> has about $2 billion, and has paid out about $1.5 billion to over 1800

> families whose children were injured or killed by a vaccine. The fund

> was

> designed to shield vaccine manufacturers from expensive lawsuits. How

> can a

> news program do a story about the complex issue of vaccines, and not

> discuss this, or interview any parent who has had a child harmed or

> killed

> by vaccines? Very poor reporting. " - Email to ABC " 20/20 " on Feb. 24 at

> 9:58 p.m., among the many emails ABC received since the " 20/20 "

> broadcast

>

> ABC News Poll (as of 2/26/07) :

>

> Yes, I am worried that some vaccinations could be harmful: 1,236

>

> No, I believe the benefits of vaccination far outweigh any risks: 415

>

> Total: 1,671

>

>

> Barbara Loe Fisher Commentary:

>

> First, a heartfelt thank you to the many supportive emails and

> telephone

> calls mothers and fathers have made to the National Vaccine Information

> Center since the Feb. 23 ABC " 20/20 " broadcast from 9 to 11 p.m. EST.

> and

> about NVIC to ABC. I understand how upset many parents and

> grandparents are

> about the way that NVIC was portrayed and the misinformation about

> vaccine

> risks which was communicated during the segment.

>

> Although I am disappointed by the superficial treatment of the subject

> of

> vaccine risks and the absence of a discussion about the violation of

> informed consent rights when it comes to mandatory vaccination laws,

> not to

> mention factual errors (the Institute of Medicine clearly DID confirm

> in

> 1994 that there is a causal relationship between DPT vaccine and

> permanent

> brain dysfunction), ABC at least acknowledged the national debate about

> vaccine safety. For that, we can thank Stossel for his

> hyperactive,

> short sighted report.

>

> My friends, this sacred cow is not going to be put back into the barn.

> It

> is out and running around the farm yard. And for every parent who

> watched

> " 20/20 " and believed that Stossel and Offit were right,

> there was

> a parent who became informed there was a controversy about vaccination

> and

> something to think about. Maybe some of them will check out

> www.NVIC.org

> and find out NVIC is simply trying to inform people about the risks and

> complications of diseases and vaccines in order to empower them to be

> able

> to speak intelligently with health care professionals and make a better

> educated vaccination decision for themselves or their children.

>

> The truth about vaccine risks will shine bright and clear at the end of

> the day, no matter how many try to suppress or distort it. Adversity

> and

> challenge can serve to illuminate the truth.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> http://www.abcnews.go.com/2020/Health/story?id=2892683 & page=1

>

> Should Parents Worry About Vaccinating Their Children?

>

> Fears of Vaccinations Rise, Diseases Reemerge

>

> ABC News

> February 22, 2007

>

> By JOHN STOSSEL, KRISTINA KENDALL and PATRICK McMENAMIN

>

>

>

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> p%3A%2F%2Fwww.abcnews.go.com%2F2020%2FHealth%2Fstory%3Fid%3D2892683%26p

> age%3

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>

> Feb. 22, 2007— - When we worry, we worry the most about our children.

> Everyone wants to keep them safe.

>

> When politicians want us to fall in line, they always talk about

> saving the

> children. And our feelings about kids have created very intense

> emotions

> about vaccines. Some people say vaccines are dangerous. F.

> Kennedy

> Jr. said that they have " poisoned an entire generation of American

> children. "

>

> Kennedy has added his voice to the chorus of angry parents who are

> convinced that mercury in vaccines causes harm to children.

>

> " It's causing IQ loss, mental retardation, speech delay, language

> delay,

> ADD, hyperactivity, " he said.

>

> Worrying About Vaccinations

>

> Barbara Loe Fisher, who heads the Vaccine Information Center, goes on

> television to alert parents about the dangers of vaccines.

>

> On the " Today Show, " she said, " We need to find out why so many of our

> highly vaccinated children are so sick. "

>

> The biggest worry today is autism. Before kids received so many

> vaccines,

> says Fisher, " you didn't see autistic children. Autism was so rare.

> Most

> people had never heard of it. "

>

> And the protestors blame the vaccines.

>

> 'Vaccines Don't Cause Autism'

>

> Dr. Offit is the chief of infectious diseases at Children's

> Hospital

> of Philadelphia. He's also in the vaccine business. He developed and

> patented the rotavirus vaccine.

>

> " I think that it's perfectly reasonable to be skeptical about anything

> you

> put into your body, including vaccines, " said Offit. " And vaccines do

> have

> side effects. But vaccines don't cause autism. "

>

> Offit can say that with confidence because the National Academy of

> Sciences

> recently reviewed the science. They concluded that 19 major studies,

> tracking thousands of kids, all show no link between vaccines and

> autism.

>

> " The question has been raised, it's been answered, " said Offit.

> " Vaccines

> don't cause autism. "

>

> Then why are so many kids being diagnosed with autism? Because kids we

> once

> said had other conditions are now being called autistic.

>

> As researchers from the March of Dimes put it, " improvements in

> detection

> and changes in diagnosis account for the observed increase in autism. "

> Their data on autism rates in California showed that the increase in

> autism

> diagnoses almost exactly matched a decline in cases of retardation:

> autism

> prevalence increased by 9.1 cases per 10,000 children, while mental

> retardation dropped by 9.3 per 10,000.

>

> " People that we once called quirky or geeky or nerdy are now called

> autistic, " said Offit. " Because when you give that label of say,

> autistic

> spectrum disorder, you allow that child then to qualify for services

> which

> otherwise they wouldn't be qualified to get. "

>

> Not a New Concern

>

> Two decades ago, " 20/20 " did a report which said that the whooping

> cough

> vaccine may lead to permanent neurological disorder and Sudden Infant

> Death

> Syndrome (SIDS).

>

> Personal injury lawyer McDowell said vaccine makers were

> victimizing

> kids, and more than 20 years later, he still says the vaccine makers

> put

> money before safety.

>

> " There's no dispute about that. They were making so much money off the

> old

> vaccine they didn't really have any incentive to improve it. "

>

> McDowell made money too. The lawyer won lots of lawsuits.

>

> " I made -- a good chunk of money, " he said.

>

> The vaccine makers did revise the whooping cough vaccine and the new

> version was approved by the FDA in 1991.

>

> " The old (whooping cough) vaccine was probably our most reactogenic

> vaccine, which is to say that it had the highest rate of side effects, "

> says Offit. " I mean, it could cause seizures with fever -- although it

> didn't cause epilepsy, meaning the permanent seizures --[but] it

> certainly

> could trigger seizures..... it caused pain and tenderness at the site

> of

> injection..... it caused floppy baby syndrome, a so-called 'hypo-tonic,

> hypo-response' syndrome. It caused persistent, inconsolable crying.

> And so,

> there was always an interest in trying to make that vaccine safer. But

> the

> science had to catch up to that. "

>

> Those serious side effects were temporary, not the permanent

> conditions for

> which lawyers often sued vaccine makers. In fact, comprehensive studies

> also reviewed by the National Academy of Sciences did not find that

> the old

> vaccine caused SIDS or permanent brain damage.

>

> The Benefits of Vaccinations

>

> Lost in this debate is the disease the vaccine prevents. Whooping cough

> racks a baby's body with violent fits of coughing. In its most extreme

> form, it kills. But after " 20/20' " s vaccine report, many parents told

> their

> doctors, " I'm scared of your vaccine. "

>

> I asked Dr. Saphir, my children's pediatrician, what he

> thought of

> that program.

>

> " It was certainly alarmist, " he said.

>

> In fact, when my daughter got a fever after one of the

> vaccines, he

> decided not to give her the final shot, and a short time afterward,

> she got

> whooping cough.

>

> Dr. Saphir said that the fact that I was a " 20/20 " correspondent made

> him

> even more anxious about giving my daughter the vaccine.

>

> My daughter recovered from her whooping cough. She was surprised to

> hear

> that our reporting could confuse parents and influence doctors.

>

> " Parents go in and force their physicians to agree to not give the

> vaccines

> even though the physicians say, you're making a stupid decision? " she

> asked. " Then you guys are doing a really bad thing. "

>

> Parent Suzanne Walther agrees. On internet sites, Walther read so many

> horror stories about vaccines, that so she postponed vaccinating her

> daughter, .

>

> " Some of the vaccine stories said that if I had my child vaccinated

> they

> were going to die of SIDS, " she said. " I'm very protective of my

> children,

> I don't want to do something to them that might cause them harm. "

>

> But not vaccinating caused harm. got very sick with

> spinal

> meningitis.

>

> " Our pediatrician put us in an ambulance to go to Vanderbilt Hospital

> immediately, " said Walther. " It is a deadly disease. There's a huge

> risk of

> deafness, blindness, it's very painful. "

>

> Resurgence of Old Diseases

>

> recovered, but she's one of many kids who are coming

> down

> with diseases doctors once thought were nearly eradicated, like mumps,

> measles, and whooping cough.

>

> These diseases are coming back because pockets of frightened parents

> won't

> vaccinate their kids, some, after they search for information and end

> up on

> websites like Barbara Loe Fisher's. I asked Fisher about how sites like

> hers scare parents.

>

> " You're really the vaccines' scare center. When you scare people

> stupid,

> and they don't get vaccinated, that spreads nasty diseases, " I said.

>

> " I don't think I've scared anybody stupid. We do not tell people to

> vaccinate or not vaccinate, " she replied.

>

> Fisher says she can't say whether vaccines are " good or bad. "

>

> " You can't say vaccines are good, vaccines haven't done more good than

> harm? " I asked?

>

> " It's a complex issue, " she said.

>

> The Fear Factor

>

> McDowell is now thinking about filing new lawsuits saying vaccine

> companies

> caused autism. I told him I thought he was an opportunistic hustler,

> preying on worried parents. McDowell disagreed.

>

> " That's not the way I look at it. I look at it that I'm doing a

> service for

> the public in these immunizations. "

>

> He said of the whopping cough vaccine that, " if there hadn't been the

> litigation, they'd still be using the same old vaccine and causing a

> lot

> more serious problems. "

>

> Nonsense, says Offit. Lawyers didn't make the whooping cough vaccine

> better. " Science is always a process of evolution, and I think we had

> to

> get to the point in science where we could make the kind of purified

> products at commercial level that, that we couldn't do before, " Offit

> said.

> The lawsuits " are a great example of just what can happen when, when

> lawyers go crazy.... I think there's a certain profiteering that comes

> with, with fear. "

>

> So I told McDowell I thought he was part of the Fear Industrial

> Complex,

> scaring people and making money off of it. After a long pause, he said,

> " True. "

>

> *************************************************************

>

> National Vaccine Information Center

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>

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