Guest guest Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 It certainly is and one to divide us and get rid of our exemptions Sheri At 06:29 AM 10/18/2006 -0000, you wrote: >I just received the following e-mail from a parent site. Is this a >scare tactic because pharmacutical companies are losing $$$ because >more parents are becoming educated & making wise decisions? I just >hope parents stay firm in their decisions & not allow such a " study " >to question their decisions. > >Study: Whooping cough rates rise as parents refuse vaccines > >TUESDAY, Oct. 10 (HealthDay News) — More parents are refusing to >have their children immunized against common childhood diseases, as >some states make it easier to evade mandatory requirements. -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account earthmysteriestours@... voicemail US 530-740-0561 (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm Reality of the Diseases & Treatment - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 So how would we know if our state lawmakers quietly try to change the vaccine law to omit the exemptions? You can be sure the medical/pharma industry will try to nix the exemptions, if they aren't already. What do they need to do this? Do they have to introduce a new bill or merely vote on the existing one? Do they even need to vote at all? How does the public find out about this? Is anyone watching? Jane Jane Sheppard Healthy Child <http://www.healthychild.com/> http://www.healthychild.com Subscribe to our free Healthy Child newsletter to receive kids natural health articles and vital information to protect your child's health: <http://www.healthychild.com/kids-health-natural-holistic.htm> http://www.healthychild.com/kids-health-natural-holistic.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 > > So how would we know if our state lawmakers quietly try to change the > vaccine law to omit the exemptions? You can be sure the medical/pharma > industry will try to nix the exemptions, if they aren't already. What do > they need to do this? Do they have to introduce a new bill or merely vote on > the existing one? Do they even need to vote at all? How does the public find > out about this? Is anyone watching? **** Hi Jane, interesting comments. I heard on the radio this morning that health officials are reporting increases in my areas as well. Interestingly, the health official that was interviewed stated that all cases were older children and adults that had already been vaccinated. They are spinning it into vaccine sales of course, when the answer is so obvious to anyone who wants to see the truth. In my great state of Texas, HB 2292 was the exemption law introduced and signed by the governor that protects our rights (thanks to PROVE and supporters). THE best way to keep abreast is to go to your respective State Legislative webpage and get on an email alert for all bills proposed to go to committee. I haven't checked all other states, but I would guess they have similar resources. Glad you posed these questions, I sure hope others are staying up to speed on this issue too. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 EXCELLENT advice We need people watching in every state. If you are interested if there is a NVIC or VacLib state rep in your state, email me, offlist Sheri At 05:06 PM 10/18/2006 -0000, you wrote: > >> >> So how would we know if our state lawmakers quietly try to change >the >> vaccine law to omit the exemptions? You can be sure the >medical/pharma >> industry will try to nix the exemptions, if they aren't already. >What do >> they need to do this? Do they have to introduce a new bill or >merely vote on >> the existing one? Do they even need to vote at all? How does the >public find >> out about this? Is anyone watching? > >**** Hi Jane, interesting comments. I heard on the radio this >morning that health officials are reporting increases in my areas as >well. Interestingly, the health official that was interviewed stated >that all cases were older children and adults that had already been >vaccinated. They are spinning it into vaccine sales of course, when >the answer is so obvious to anyone who wants to see the truth. > >In my great state of Texas, HB 2292 was the exemption law introduced >and signed by the governor that protects our rights (thanks to PROVE >and supporters). THE best way to keep abreast is to go to your >respective State Legislative webpage and get on an email alert for >all bills proposed to go to committee. I haven't checked all other >states, but I would guess they have similar resources. Glad you >posed these questions, I sure hope others are staying up to speed on >this issue too. > >-- > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 > Refusal to have children immunized appears to be a peculiarly > American phenomenon, Offit said, caused by " the balance we have in > this country between individual rights and the rights of the public. > To my knowledge, this is the only country to have state mandates for > immunization, and the only one that needs them. " > > That is so not true! We are the most immunized country in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 > > **** Hi Jane, interesting comments. I heard on the radio this > morning that health officials are reporting increases in my areas as > well. Interestingly, the health official that was interviewed stated > that all cases were older children and adults that had already been > vaccinated. They are spinning it into vaccine sales of course, when > the answer is so obvious to anyone who wants to see the truth. > Yes, and according to what I've read, pertussis is more dangerous in teens and adults than in young children. So whenever I hear that " x number of people suffered serious complications, " I wonder how old they were (as well as what the rest of their health was like). These are things we need to keep writing letters to the editor about, because most people just DO NOT KNOW THIS and will believe the scare tactics and the broad brushstroke with which these outbreaks are painted. -Angie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 At 09:53 PM 10/18/2006 -0400, you wrote: >> >> **** Hi Jane, interesting comments. I heard on the radio this >> morning that health officials are reporting increases in my areas as >> well. Interestingly, the health official that was interviewed stated >> that all cases were older children and adults that had already been >> vaccinated. They are spinning it into vaccine sales of course, when >> the answer is so obvious to anyone who wants to see the truth. >> >Yes, and according to what I've read, pertussis is more dangerous in >teens and adults than in young children. Actually its the opposite. It is more dangerous in infants under 6 months or so because their airways are so tiny It is measles or chicken pox and measles that are more serious the older you are. Sheri > -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account earthmysteriestours@... voicemail US 530-740-0561 (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm Reality of the Diseases & Treatment - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 > > Actually its the opposite. It is more dangerous in infants under 6 > months > or so because their airways are so tiny > > It is measles or chicken pox and measles that are more serious the > older > you are. > > Sheri > What about pertussis in teens compared to young children, say 2, 3, or 4 years old? I thought it was worse. Could be confusing it with measles. -Angie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 At 03:53 PM 10/19/2006 -0400, you wrote: >> >> Actually its the opposite. It is more dangerous in infants under 6 >> months >> or so because their airways are so tiny >> >> It is measles or chicken pox and measles that are more serious the >> older >> you are. >> >> Sheri >> >What about pertussis in teens compared to young children, say 2, 3, or >4 years old? I thought it was worse. Could be confusing it with >measles. -Angie Nope, the older you are the better Sheri > -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account earthmysteriestours@... voicemail US 530-740-0561 (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm Reality of the Diseases & Treatment - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2006 Report Share Posted October 20, 2006 I have been reading into vaccines since 1999,and this study had really got me annoyed.In the start there was little talk of pertussis,though I do recall 2 local articles in the summer of 1999(Cleveland and Akron papers) talking about cases of pertussis in infants exposed by parents,siblings,and hospital staff. A few years more and there was talk about pertussis being dxed as any other disease in the infected/vaccinated.Next came talk about how there were indeed cases of pertussis in the vaccinated,because the vaccine only lasted 2-10 years after the last dose. In all those stages there was a wish for a pertussis vaccine for teens/adults,and there was talk of the pertussis vaccine already in use in Canada. Now that there ARE vaccines for pertussis for teens/adults it is interesting to see how more aggressive the finger pointing has become.There was never any connection prior to the rise in disease rates being caused by parents who turned the pertussis vaccine down. I wonder when aP will be mandated for work and school for the older crowd.Soon they will be giving it to the elderly. --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2006 Report Share Posted October 20, 2006 At 03:37 AM 10/20/2006 -0700, you wrote: >I have been reading into vaccines since 1999,and this study had really got me annoyed.In the start there was little talk of pertussis,though I do recall 2 local articles in the summer of 1999(Cleveland and Akron papers) talking about cases of pertussis in infants exposed by parents,siblings,and hospital staff. A few years more and there was talk about pertussis being dxed as any other disease in the infected/vaccinated.Next came talk about how there were indeed cases of pertussis in the vaccinated,because the vaccine only lasted 2-10 years after the last dose. In all those stages there was a wish for a pertussis vaccine for teens/adults,and there was talk of the pertussis vaccine already in use in Canada. Now that there ARE vaccines for pertussis for teens/adults it is interesting to see how more aggressive the finger pointing has become.There was never any connection prior to the rise in disease rates being caused by parents who turned the pertussis vaccine down. > > I wonder when aP will be mandated for work and school for the older crowd.Soon they will be giving it to the elderly. You have evaluated the situation perfectly Its about selling vaccine and making money for your shareholders Sheri > -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account earthmysteriestours@... voicemail US 530-740-0561 (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm Reality of the Diseases & Treatment - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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