Re: RE: Question about Prevnar

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At 05:29 PM 5/24/2006 -0700, you wrote:

>What is meant by 7-valent when describing Prevnar? Is that the number of

diseases or illnesses it is supposed to protect against?

>

> Anita

7 different strains of pneumococcal bacteria

Sheri

>

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Thank you, Sheri. Now isn't the MMR called a tri-valent? I think because this

vaccine has three live viruses, I associated tri with each different disease in

that shot therefore making that same association with the number 7 in Prevnar.

Does trivalent in the case of MMR mean three different strains of the mumps,

measles and rubella.? I'm not sure my question is making sense. I need to

understand how this works.

Anita

Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> wrote:

At 05:29 PM 5/24/2006 -0700, you wrote:

>What is meant by 7-valent when describing Prevnar? Is that the number of

diseases or illnesses it is supposed to protect against?

>

> Anita

7 different strains of pneumococcal bacteria

Sheri

>

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At 04:07 AM 5/25/2006 -0700, you wrote:

>Thank you, Sheri. Now isn't the MMR called a tri-valent? I think because

this vaccine has three live viruses, I associated tri with each different

disease in that shot therefore making that same association with the number

7 in Prevnar.

>

> Does trivalent in the case of MMR mean three different strains of the

mumps, measles and rubella.? I'm not sure my question is making sense. I

need to understand how this works.

>

> Anita

Yes - 3 different strains - can be anything. Although you know I doubt

that viruses cause anything

Sheri

>

>Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> wrote:

> At 05:29 PM 5/24/2006 -0700, you wrote:

>>What is meant by 7-valent when describing Prevnar? Is that the number of

>diseases or illnesses it is supposed to protect against?

>>

>> Anita

>

>7 different strains of pneumococcal bacteria

>Sheri

>>

>

>

>

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When I found out about Natural Hygiene, I realized that was my basic instinctual

belief system and how I treated illnesses most of my life. By keeping healthy, I

rarely feared germs as my terrain has not been good feeding ground for them;

same with my children.

I am re-reading IMMUNIZATIONS: The Reality Behind the Myth, but have jumped to

chapter 5 titled Do Germs Cause Disease or Does Disease Cause Germs? It

addresses both Pasteur and Bechamp theories. I have to share this one bit:

Bechamp showed that bacteria function in whatever medium they find themselves,

even changing their shapes as well as their functions to accord with that

medium. In comparing Pasteur's understanding of bacteria with Becamp's, Rodale

gives us this illustration: Pasteur may have commented while looking into a

microscope 'Ah, here is the bacteria that ferments beer and here is it's shape.'

Bechamp might have commented, 'Here is a bacteria fermenting beer. In beer, it

takes on this shape.'

I need visuals, so this was good for me to understand how bacteria reflects

the conditions in which they find themselves rather than create those

conditions.

What I'm having real trouble with is questioning the very existence of germs.

Anita

Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> wrote:

Yes - 3 different strains - can be anything. Although you know I doubt

that viruses cause anything

Sheri

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At 05:20 AM 5/27/2006 -0700, you wrote:

>When I found out about Natural Hygiene, I realized that was my basic

instinctual belief system and how I treated illnesses most of my life. By

keeping healthy, I rarely feared germs as my terrain has not been good

feeding ground for them; same with my children.

>

> I am re-reading IMMUNIZATIONS: The Reality Behind the Myth, but have

jumped to chapter 5 titled Do Germs Cause Disease or Does Disease Cause

Germs? It addresses both Pasteur and Bechamp theories. I have to share this

one bit:

>

> Bechamp showed that bacteria function in whatever medium they find

themselves, even changing their shapes as well as their functions to accord

with that medium. In comparing Pasteur's understanding of bacteria with

Becamp's, Rodale gives us this illustration: Pasteur may have commented

while looking into a microscope 'Ah, here is the bacteria that ferments

beer and here is it's shape.' Bechamp might have commented, 'Here is a

bacteria fermenting beer. In beer, it takes on this shape.'

>

> I need visuals, so this was good for me to understand how bacteria

reflects the conditions in which they find themselves rather than create

those conditions.

>

> What I'm having real trouble with is questioning the very existence of

germs.

>

> Anita

I know they exist - but do they 'cause' what they say? Not convinced.

Viruses - that's another story

I think they both are doing a job cleaning up and repairing

Sheri

> >

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maybe we could get andy wakefield and stefan lanka

together. i have no doubt stefan would be game. and dr

wakefield might be, too. now, that would be a truly

interesting meeting!

claudia

--- Anita Durney <mydurney@...> wrote:

> > What I'm having real trouble with is questioning

> the very existence of

> germs.

> >

> > Anita

>

> I know they exist - but do they 'cause' what they

> say? Not convinced.

> Viruses - that's another story

>

> I think they both are doing a job cleaning up and

> repairing

> Sheri

>

>

> Well...I guess I meant virus too. For example; the

> measles. I have a hard time believing this virus

> does not exist. I am not convinced it causes

> anything either, but I do still believe it exists

> and will find a home in an unhealthy environment.

>

> What, if not the measles, is Dr. Wakefield seeing

> in the gut and spinal fluid in such a large group of

> regressive autistic children? It doesn't seem to be

> 'cleaning up' or 'repairing' anything in these

> children.

>

> Anita

>

>

>

>

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> Do you ?

> Everyone is raving about the all-new

> Beta.

>

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I'd pay good money to see that debate! I'm sure I could find a way to get this

idea to Andy Wakefield. I have no line to Lanka though maybe someone here

does...anyone...Rolfe?

Anita

<claudiaayaz@...> wrote:

maybe we could get andy wakefield and stefan lanka

together. i have no doubt stefan would be game. and dr

wakefield might be, too. now, that would be a truly

interesting meeting!

claudia

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i'm sure if sheri, rolf and i write to stefan about

it, there'd be no problem.

game, anyone?

:-)

claudia

--- Anita Durney <mydurney@...> wrote:

> I'd pay good money to see that debate! I'm sure I

> could find a way to get this idea to Andy Wakefield.

> I have no line to Lanka though maybe someone here

> does...anyone...Rolfe?

>

> Anita

>

>

>

> <claudiaayaz@...> wrote:

> maybe we could get andy wakefield and stefan lanka

> together. i have no doubt stefan would be game. and

> dr

> wakefield might be, too. now, that would be a truly

> interesting meeting!

> claudia

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

>

>I know they exist - but do they 'cause' what they say? Not convinced.

>Viruses - that's another story

>

>I think they both are doing a job cleaning up and repairing

>Sheri

>

>

>Well...I guess I meant virus too. For example; the measles. I have a hard

time believing this virus does not exist. I am not convinced it causes

anything either, but I do still believe it exists and will find a home in

an unhealthy environment.

>

> What, if not the measles, is Dr. Wakefield seeing in the gut and spinal

fluid in such a large group of regressive autistic children? It doesn't

seem to be 'cleaning up' or 'repairing' anything in these children.

>

> Anita

>

>

Well, maybe it is trying?

Or maybe because it is manipulated and put in a vaccine it is an alien and

not natural and not doing its job cleaning as it isn't natural. It was

injected in.

In normal measles, the rash is measles leaving the body. All rashes are a

disturbance leaving the body, or trying to leave. But in measles vaccine

which is injected it never leaves, you never get a rash, so it just

persists. the lucky ones are those who get a rash after measles vaccine.

All things to think about.

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Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

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