Re: vaccinated baby by force

[Guest guest]

HOW HORRIBLE!!!!!!!!

I would call the police. That doctor committed ASSAULT on a MINOR.

I would write his medical board for 'committing' (not sure of the right

word here) treatment of a minor against the wishes of the parent/guardian.

I would also write the ACLU and whatever local group deals with civil

rights and disability rights...because he clearly acted the way he did

because of his bias against her as a person with a disability. He would

NOT have taken a speaking/hearing person's child out of their parents

arms and done this.

I'd consider civil charges, if allowed. I bet the national anti vax (pro

choice vax) groups would give pointers on where she could get pro bono

legal assistance. Or, the ACLU might help.

I would also write a letter to the local newspaper and expose this

doctor. The 'public' might tend to side with him however, with the

prevailing attitude about vaccination, so it would have to be very well

done....

I am so enraged by this....omg....

Sara wrote:

> My good friend from Virginia is hearing impaired. Her neighbor got her

> into trouble, because her baby cried alot, he called CPS on her making

> a vicious lie she is abusing and neglecting her baby. So to prove her

> baby is well she went to the baby's pediatrician for checkup.

> My friend's baby is 4 months old.

>

> My friend was aware there is no law requiring vaccinations. She wanted

> to print the VA waiver forms to bring to the doctor, but she had no

> computer and the library was closed.

> She arrived to the doctor with her interpreter. The doctor told her

> she MUST vaccinate its the law. She said its not true. then wanted to

> leave. The doctor physically blocked her way out and grabbed her baby

> and vaccinated her baby with 3 shots (DTaP, HIB, and Pneumoucal)

> My friend got very upset and cried.

>

> Her baby got fever and is crying. Her baby is refusing to nurse. And

> had no bowel movement since friday, when she got the shots.

>

> So I have few questions:

> 1 How can she help her baby to overcome the vaccine trauma? Shall she

> take vitamins (which?) to pass it to the baby in breastmilk? Shall she

> give some vitamins directly to the baby?

>

> Her baby threw up and had high fever or 103. Shall she use tylenol to

> lower it? As the fever is vaccine induced. The baby refuses to

> breastfeed enough. Also the baby is having a knot in the injection

> site. What can she do???

>

> 2 What can she do about the doctor forcing her baby to be vaccinated?

> What can she do to prevent it from happening?

> (I told her to switch doctors because if she has poor relationship

> with the doctor, her doctor might try to get her in trouble in future)

>

> My friend has waiver forms she will print when the library will be open

> http://www.vaclib.org/exempt/virginia.htm (one form to get the doctor

> to sign responsiblity if there is permanent damage to the baby and

> second form is religion waiver)

> and is there anything she could do about the doctor blocking her

> preventing her from leaving and FORCING her physically and grabbing

> her baby to vaccinate?

> (her interpreter was there, could she be the witness?) I guess the

> reason her doctor forced her because of her hearing impariment and her

> inability to speak. she communicates by signing only. So her doctor

> probably assumed she is weak uneducated person, or its discrimination

> as she is also from Spanish orgin and the pediatrician was white.

>

> (Like I did, my first pediatrician wanted to vaccinate my children, so

> i just left and thankfully he didn't force me physically like done it

> to her! and my other pediatrician just asks me to sign waiver forms)

>

> I wish anyone of you could have answers!

> Tomorrow the CPS ladies come to her house at time 10:00 am and I am

> going to get her calling me to get the videophone open so i could

> witness. She is going to get the video on in case the CPS violate her

> or take her baby away. She is going to get her pastor from the church

> to be there too to support her as CPS seem bothering only lonely

> people who have no community support.

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

At 09:01 AM 2/26/2006 +0000, you wrote:

>HOW HORRIBLE!!!!!!!!

>

>I would call the police. That doctor committed ASSAULT on a MINOR.

YES SHE SHOULD DEFINITELY DO THIS

>

>I would write his medical board for 'committing' (not sure of the right

>word here) treatment of a minor against the wishes of the parent/guardian.

and this

>

>I would also write the ACLU and whatever local group deals with civil

>rights and disability rights...because he clearly acted the way he did

>because of his bias against her as a person with a disability. He would

>NOT have taken a speaking/hearing person's child out of their parents

>arms and done this.

yes

>

>I'd consider civil charges, if allowed. I bet the national anti vax (pro

>choice vax) groups would give pointers on where she could get pro bono

>legal assistance. Or, the ACLU might help.

>

>I would also write a letter to the local newspaper and expose this

>doctor. The 'public' might tend to side with him however, with the

>prevailing attitude about vaccination, so it would have to be very well

>done....

>

>I am so enraged by this....omg....

>

>

I am too!

>

>Sara wrote:

>> My good friend from Virginia is hearing impaired. Her neighbor got her

>> into trouble, because her baby cried alot, he called CPS on her making

>> a vicious lie she is abusing and neglecting her baby. So to prove her

>> baby is well she went to the baby's pediatrician for checkup.

>> My friend's baby is 4 months old.

>>

>> My friend was aware there is no law requiring vaccinations. She wanted

>> to print the VA waiver forms to bring to the doctor, but she had no

>> computer and the library was closed.

>> She arrived to the doctor with her interpreter. The doctor told her

>> she MUST vaccinate its the law. She said its not true. then wanted to

>> leave. The doctor physically blocked her way out and grabbed her baby

>> and vaccinated her baby with 3 shots (DTaP, HIB, and Pneumoucal)

>> My friend got very upset and cried.

>>

>> Her baby got fever and is crying. Her baby is refusing to nurse. And

>> had no bowel movement since friday, when she got the shots.

>>

>> So I have few questions:

>> 1 How can she help her baby to overcome the vaccine trauma? Shall she

>> take vitamins (which?) to pass it to the baby in breastmilk? Shall she

>> give some vitamins directly to the baby?

Can she afford a homeopath? I would suggest she phone one that I know in

Rhode Island who can help over the phone.

Let me know privately.

>>

>> Her baby threw up and had high fever or 103. Shall she use tylenol to

>> lower it? As the fever is vaccine induced. The baby refuses to

>> breastfeed enough. Also the baby is having a knot in the injection

>> site. What can she do???

No tylenol if at all possible - it will just add to the problem.

Warm soaks o teh injection

>>

>> 2 What can she do about the doctor forcing her baby to be vaccinated?

>> What can she do to prevent it from happening?

>> (I told her to switch doctors because if she has poor relationship

>> with the doctor, her doctor might try to get her in trouble in future)

NEVER darken that door again and do what suggests.

>>

>> My friend has waiver forms she will print when the library will be open

>> http://www.vaclib.org/exempt/virginia.htm (one form to get the doctor

>> to sign responsiblity if there is permanent damage to the baby and

>> second form is religion waiver)

>> and is there anything she could do about the doctor blocking her

>> preventing her from leaving and FORCING her physically and grabbing

>> her baby to vaccinate?

>> (her interpreter was there, could she be the witness?)

CERTAINLY

I guess the

>> reason her doctor forced her because of her hearing impariment and her

>> inability to speak. she communicates by signing only. So her doctor

>> probably assumed she is weak uneducated person, or its discrimination

>> as she is also from Spanish orgin and the pediatrician was white.

>>

>> (Like I did, my first pediatrician wanted to vaccinate my children, so

>> i just left and thankfully he didn't force me physically like done it

>> to her! and my other pediatrician just asks me to sign waiver forms)

>>

>> I wish anyone of you could have answers!

>> Tomorrow the CPS ladies come to her house at time 10:00 am and I am

>> going to get her calling me to get the videophone open so i could

>> witness. She is going to get the video on in case the CPS violate her

>> or take her baby away. She is going to get her pastor from the church

>> to be there too to support her as CPS seem bothering only lonely

>> people who have no community support.

She needs all the support she can get there

NVIC is in Virginia

She should contact them

http://www.nvic.org

email kathi@...

I will email them with this info.

Sheri>

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[Guest guest]

Some contact information..the ACLU is first but she might get more

personalized attention from the Office of Protection and Avocacy

(details below)

ACLU Virginia

http://www.acluva.org/

State of Virgina Office of Protection and Advocacy

http://www.vopa.state.va.us/

The Virginia Office for Protection and Advocacy (VOPA) helps with

disability-related problems like abuse, neglect, and discrimination. We

also help people with disabilities obtain services and treatment. All

callers receive help with these problems. Individuals with problems,

targeted in our program goals

<http://www.vopa.state.va.us/Programs%20and%20Goals/2006%20Goals.htm>,

may also receive advocacy services and/or legal representation.

*Our Mission*

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[Guest guest]

> >HOW HORRIBLE!!!!!!!!

> >

> >I would call the police. That doctor committed ASSAULT on a MINOR.

>

> YES SHE SHOULD DEFINITELY DO THIS

> >

> >I would write his medical board for 'committing' (not sure of the

right

> >word here) treatment of a minor against the wishes of the

parent/guardian.

>

Where is 'medical board'?

[Guest guest]

This is the URL for the Virginia Board of Medicine. It licenses

physicians in that state and is in charge of handling complaints.......

http://www.dhp.state.va.us/medicine/default.htm

Here is the URL for information on complaints:

http://www.dhp.state.va.us/enforcement/complaints.htm

Sara wrote:

>

> > >HOW HORRIBLE!!!!!!!!

> > >

> > >I would call the police. That doctor committed ASSAULT on a MINOR.

> >

> > YES SHE SHOULD DEFINITELY DO THIS

> > >

> > >I would write his medical board for 'committing' (not sure of the

> right

> > >word here) treatment of a minor against the wishes of the

> parent/guardian.

> >

> Where is 'medical board'?

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

What's the name of this so-called doctor?

Dan

[Guest guest]

OMG!! That's horrible. I would have called the police and had that

doctor arrested for assault. I agree with what everyone else has

suggested. I wouldn't rest until I had done whatever I could to make

sure it doesn't happen again. Prayers said for the baby.

>

> My good friend from Virginia is hearing impaired. Her neighbor got

[Guest guest]

This is the worst thing I've ever heard!!!! She needs to get the law involved

in this, and now! And get this guy out of a medical office. How

horrible!!!!!!!! I can't believe that happened.

) Lucas, mom to Gavin ~ 07.09.05 ~ 7 Months Old ~

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The doctor physically blocked her way out and grabbed her baby

and vaccinated her baby with 3 shots (DTaP, HIB, and Pneumoucal)

My friend got very upset and cried.

[Guest guest]

I work with people with disabilities. Not sure if this happened in US or

otherwise, but I would approach this also as a disability issue. He probably

would not have treated a hearing parent in the same manner. She could contact

her state disability office. They have staff attorneys there to handle these

things. It is all free. They would probably be enraged.

Ruth

Lucas <rachellucas6@...> wrote:

This is the worst thing I've ever heard!!!! She needs to get the law involved

in this, and now! And get this guy out of a medical office. How

horrible!!!!!!!! I can't believe that happened.

) Lucas, mom to Gavin ~ 07.09.05 ~ 7 Months Old ~

http://www.thelucastribe.com

~ KUSTOMIZED KIDS ~ Featuring Customized/Personalized Baby & Children's Clothing

and Natural Parenting/Breastfeeding Advocacy Products

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~ Featuring Custom Pencil Drawings of People & Pets ~

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The doctor physically blocked her way out and grabbed her baby

and vaccinated her baby with 3 shots (DTaP, HIB, and Pneumoucal)

My friend got very upset and cried.