Re: tests for oxidative stress/free radicals?

[Guest guest]

I don't know the exact answer to your question. However, I think it

is worth mentioning that the fewer calories one consumes, the fewer

free radicals one gets. It would be interesting to see if the

'skinny PWC' is overall better off than PWCs who consume normal or

excessive calories.

Mike C

>

> What tests are there to measure oxidative stress/free radical

> production, and do people use these to track treatment effectiveness

> and progress?

>

[Guest guest]

I can tell you for me...no. I am a skinny PWC and am probably a worse case

scenerio. I have a theory that one of the reasons some of us stay skinny is

that we don't absorb as well, and for me I only eat when I'm very hungry and

then get full faily quickly. I think it's in the genes!!! The rest of my

family tends to be on the chubby side and I'm the only one that so ill.

yakcamp22 <yakcamp22@...> wrote: I don't know the exact

answer to your question. However, I think it

is worth mentioning that the fewer calories one consumes, the fewer

free radicals one gets. It would be interesting to see if the

'skinny PWC' is overall better off than PWCs who consume normal or

excessive calories.

Mike C

>

> What tests are there to measure oxidative stress/free radical

> production, and do people use these to track treatment effectiveness

> and progress?

>

[Guest guest]

serum lipid peroxides sounds like the test your looking for.

> What tests are there to measure oxidative stress/free radical

> production, and do people use these to track treatment effectiveness

> and progress?

>

>

[Guest guest]

> >

> > What tests are there to measure oxidative stress/free radical

> > production, and do people use these to track treatment

effectiveness

> > and progress?

Although I am not too impressed by a lot of weight gain in the past

year..1st time in my life as it happens...overall healthwise I cannot

complain at all.BW Dianne

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Giving this issue further thought, in my case I believe the weight

loss that I have (5' 9 " and 120 lbs, down from 155) is due to what

Cheney calls a lack of energy. Specifically, a lack of motility

in the GI tract. If I eat a full meal, the food feels like it is

just sitting in my stomach/upper small intestine for 6-10 hours.

Therefore, I don't eat as much as I should because I feel full most

of the time or I have abdominal pain. Constipation is a problem.

I have been told of two meds that will help motility, but I am

trying the Hawthorn at the moment to see if that will work.

Mike C ( Multiple brands of probiotics aren't helping)

I don't know the exact

answer to your question. However, I think it

> is worth mentioning that the fewer calories one consumes, the fewer

> free radicals one gets. It would be interesting to see if the

> 'skinny PWC' is overall better off than PWCs who consume normal or

> excessive calories.

>

> Mike C

[Guest guest]

I don't have constipation issues, I think due to a lot of probiotics and a

mostly vegi diet, but I hear you on the motility thing. I stay full on very

little for a long time. Please update us if the hawthorn works for you on this.

Re: tests for oxidative stress/free radicals?

Giving this issue further thought, in my case I believe the weight

loss that I have (5' 9 " and 120 lbs, down from 155) is due to what

Cheney calls a lack of energy. Specifically, a lack of motility

in the GI tract. If I eat a full meal, the food feels like it is

just sitting in my stomach/upper small intestine for 6-10 hours.

Therefore, I don't eat as much as I should because I feel full most

of the time or I have abdominal pain. Constipation is a problem.

I have been told of two meds that will help motility, but I am

trying the Hawthorn at the moment to see if that will work.

Mike C ( Multiple brands of probiotics aren't helping)

I don't know the exact

answer to your question. However, I think it

> is worth mentioning that the fewer calories one consumes, the fewer

> free radicals one gets. It would be interesting to see if the

> 'skinny PWC' is overall better off than PWCs who consume normal or

> excessive calories.

>

> Mike C

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[Guest guest]

>

> I can tell you for me...no. I am a skinny PWC and am probably a worse case

scenerio. I

have a theory that one of the reasons some of us stay skinny is that we don't

absorb as

well, and for me I only eat when I'm very hungry and then get full faily

quickly. I think it's

in the genes!!! The rest of my family tends to be on the chubby side and I'm

the only one

that so ill.

Could also be inadequate adrenal function. THis leads to weight loss, fatigue,

malaise,

low blood pressure and generally being considered a " psych case " by MD's because

they

can't read the paragraph in their endocrinology textbook warning them not to do

that to

people with adrenal problems.

Andy

[Guest guest]

Mike

How about a real food diet that is gluten and dairy free?

Plus digestive enzymes, plus betaine H Cl with meals.

And, enough Magnesium throughout the day.... NOT to cause loose stools, but

to provide the necessary motility support

Season with warming herbs and spices, too.

mjh

" The Basil Book "

_http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/_ (http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/)

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Re:%20tests%20for%20oxidative%20stress/free%20radicals?)

_yakcamp22 _ (yakcamp22)

Sun Nov 26, 2006 1:45 pm (PST)

Giving this issue further thought, in my case I believe the weight

loss that I have (5' 9 " and 120 lbs, down from 155) is due to what

Cheney calls a lack of energy. Specifically, a lack of motility

in the GI tract. If I eat a full meal, the food feels like it is

just sitting in my stomach/upper small intestine for 6-10 hours.

Therefore, I don't eat as much as I should because I feel full most

of the time or I have abdominal pain. Constipation is a problem.

I have been told of two meds that will help motility, but I am

trying the Hawthorn at the moment to see if that will work.

Mike C ( Multiple brands of probiotics aren't helping)

[Guest guest]

Vespro has a urine test you can order w/o script that measures lipid peroxide

levels which correlate with oxidative stress. Before going on lots of

antioxidants and bioflavinoids I measured in the worst of their 4 levels of

oxidative stress and after I was in their No. 2 level which is the one just

below zero oxidative stress. The antioxidants alone don't work; must be taken

with bioflavinoids. I think you can order test online at vespro.com. Steve B.

Dianne <boyzee12000@...> wrote:

> >

> > What tests are there to measure oxidative stress/free radical

> > production, and do people use these to track treatment

effectiveness

> > and progress?

Although I am not too impressed by a lot of weight gain in the past

year..1st time in my life as it happens...overall healthwise I cannot

complain at all.BW Dianne

> >

>

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