Guest guest Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Might be of interest for some of you. http://www.innerexplorations.com/psytext/the2.htm bw Nil New poll for > > Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the > group: > > What is your Myers-Briggs personality type? > > (Some diseases show correlations with personality type. This raises the > question, are there personality types that are more common with CFS? For > those wondering if CFS changes the MBTI, research shows that the MBTI is > relatively stable in adults over their lifetime) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 That is supposedly an accomplishment of a sort, to have acheived that sort of balance. Adrienne Re: New poll for wrote: > Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the > group: > > What is your Myers-Briggs personality type? > > I've been tested several times, both short and long tests, and I keep coming up as " XNFP " . That is, on the first axis I am evenly balanced between introvert and extrovert. I voted as INFP, because there was no way to register what I really am! -- el (andreafrankel at sbcglobal dot net) " wake now! Discover that YOU are the song that the morning brings... " This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the group: Do you consider yourself as an epidemic case? o Yes o No To vote, please visit the following web page: /surveys?id=2356632 Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the web site listed above. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 Dictionary ep·i·dem·ic ( & #277;p' & #301;-d & #277;m' & #301;k) also ep·i·dem·i·cal (- & #301;-k & #601;l) adj. 1. Spreading rapidly and extensively by infection and affecting many individuals in an area or a population at the same time: an epidemic outbreak of influenza. 2. Widely prevalent: epidemic discontent. n. 1. An outbreak of a contagious disease that spreads rapidly and widely. 2. A rapid spread, growth, or development: an unemployment epidemic. [French épidémique, from épidémie, an epidemic, from Old French espydymie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 Hi Katrina I am the one who opened the poll. I was using the word epidemic as uses at his posts. One example is " The epidemic cases have no such capacity to " self select " and give a clearer indication of just who can fall prey to CFS. The illness managed to target nine teachers using the same room and half the girls basketball team in just one example of " not caring " . There are many others, but this should not be necessary, as the " exception disproves the rule " . " I am thinking that if an illness can be an epidemic it should be contagious. Am I wrong? I personally don't think I am epidemic case as no one that I have contacted in life has this illness. bw Nil Re: New poll for > > To answer this question, of course we would have to know the definition of > epidemic. When I looked for it at the CDC site, it was something like > " more than would be expected in a region " . > It does not only mean " cluster " , as obvious as Truckee High School for > instance. I could not find a number that qualifies, just the above > statement. > > Since there were so many hit in the US in the 80s, it seems anyone hit in > the US in the 80s > would be part of an epidemic. > There are 800,000 to a Million now. (Recently CAA and CDC said 4 Million). > We could compare these figues to other diseases that have been an > epidemic. Do our figures qualify for " more than would be expected " ? > > The CDC is not of help for this, because they have never actually > acknowledged that we have a disease at all. (Meaning of course, if *any* > of us are part of an epidemic, it has been covered up.) > > I did not know anyone who had ME/CFS for the first 4 or 5 years I had it. > But once I got into a network and support group, which was publicised, I > met many in my area, and received many calls as a contact person. > Most or all I knew have moved or died. So, without group or publicity, I > have no idea how many are now in my area who have it. > > I wonder how our Scientists/Specialists view the epidemic question? > > Just to say, that we who answer this poll question may not even know what > an epidemic is, or if we are part of one. > > I am convinced for me, because of what I have learned through 1st hand > advocacy and from activists/experts, and from actively seeking out others > since the 80s. > > The SF Bay, Monterey, and South Bay area is where I have been, and all > agree (including non-CFS friends) there were " more than would be > expected " of such an awful, unfamiliar disease. > > Also, what does " a region " mean? A county, a state, a country? > > Katrina > > > >> >> >> Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the >> group: >> >> Do you consider yourself as an epidemic case? >> >> o Yes >> o No >> >> >> To vote, please visit the following web page: >> /surveys?id=2356632 >> >> Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are >> not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the >> web site listed above. >> >> Thanks! >> > > > > > > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each > other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment > discussed here, please consult your doctor. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 " yildiz " <yildiz22@...> wrote: > I am the one who opened the poll. I was using the word epidemic as uses at his posts. > I am thinking that if an illness can be an epidemic it should be contagious. > Am I wrong? I personally don't think I am epidemic case as no one that I have contacted in life has this illness. > Nil I was thinking of meaning no. 1, which says infection but doesn't specify contagion, which is still open to debate. As Katrina says, the rapid spread, growth, and development of this phenomenon qualifies it as an " epidemic " whether it is contagious or not. - 1. Spreading rapidly and extensively by infection and affecting many individuals in an area or a population at the same time: an epidemic outbreak of influenza. 2. Widely prevalent: epidemic discontent. n. 1. An outbreak of a contagious disease that spreads rapidly and widely. 2. A rapid spread, growth, or development: an unemployment epidemic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 Okay Here is another decription from wikipedia " In epidemiology, an epidemic (from Greek epi- upon + demos people) is a disease that appears as new cases in a given human population, during a given period, at a rate that substantially exceeds what is " expected " , based on recent experience (the number of new cases in the population during a specified period of time is called the " incidence rate " ). (An epizootic is the same thing but for a nonhuman population.) Defining a epidemic can be subjective, depending in part on what is " expected " . An epidemic may be restricted to one local (an outbreak), more general (an " epidemic " ) or even global (pandemic). Because it is based on what is " expected " or thought normal, a few cases of a very rare disease like rabies may be classified as an " epidemic " , while many cases of a common disease (like the common cold) would not. Common diseases that occur at a constant but relatively high rate in the population are said to be " endemic " . An example of an endemic disease is malaria in some parts of Africa (for example, Liberia) in which a large portion of the population is expected to get malaria at some point in their lifetimes. Famous examples of epidemics include the bubonic plague epidemic of Medieval Europe known as the Black Death, the Great Influenza Pandemic concurring with the end of World War I, and the current AIDS epidemic, which some also consider to be of pandemic proportions. [edit] Types of Epidemics Epidemics are classified into multiple types based on their origin and pattern of transmission. Epidemics can involve a single exposure, multiple exposures, or a continuous exposure to the disease-causing agent. The disease involved in an epidemic can be transmitted by a vector, from person to person, or from a common source such as contaminated water. " Still, I have noone around me who has the illness so i guess in my case we can not mention of epidemic type. bw Nil Re: New poll for > " yildiz " <yildiz22@...> wrote: >> I am the one who opened the poll. I was using the word epidemic as > uses at his posts. > >> I am thinking that if an illness can be an epidemic it should be > contagious. >> Am I wrong? I personally don't think I am epidemic case as no one > that I have contacted in life has this illness. >> Nil > > > I was thinking of meaning no. 1, which says infection but doesn't > specify contagion, which is still open to debate. > As Katrina says, the rapid spread, growth, and development of this > phenomenon qualifies it as an " epidemic " whether it is contagious or > not. > - > > 1. Spreading rapidly and extensively by infection and affecting many > individuals in an area or a population at the same time: an epidemic > outbreak of influenza. > 2. Widely prevalent: epidemic discontent. > n. > 1. An outbreak of a contagious disease that spreads rapidly and > widely. > 2. A rapid spread, growth, or development: an unemployment epidemic. > > > > > > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each > other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment > discussed here, please consult your doctor. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 " yildiz " <yildiz22@...> wrote: Epidemics can involve a single exposure, multiple exposures, or a continuous exposure to the disease-causing agent. The disease involved in an epidemic can be transmitted by a vector, from person to person, or from a common source such as contaminated water. " > Still, I have noone around me who has the illness so i guess in my case we can not mention of epidemic type. > Nil Even those of us who were in the Lake Tahoe outbreak, especially the Truckee teachers, where the phenomenon looked most like contagion, were strikingly surrounded by close associates, spouses, and family members who didn't get CFS. The closest known physical association to coming into contact with other potential " Yuppie Flu " patients when I became ill was that I lived directly behind Dr Cheneys office and passed within twenty feet of his door every time I left my house, yet people who worked in the same building didn't all become sick. There were just a few who did. - Here's what Dr Grant has to say on the subject. http://www.medicineau.net.au/clinical/medicine/CFS.html Terminology The definition of chronic fatigue syndrome of Holmes et al. (1988:387-389) has generally been accepted by other medical authorities with the exception of the United Kingdom (infra vide) where an alternative diagnosis of postviral fatigue syndrome is favoured. For the purpose of this work, Holmes et al.'s definition is preferred. There are a large number of conditions previously described which are now held to satisfy most of the criteria of chronic fatigue syndrome. These include myalgic encephalomyelitis (ME), post viral fatigue syndrome (PVFS), chronic fatigue and immune dysfunction (CFIDS), post-infectious fatigue syndrome (PIFS), neurasthenia, fibrositis myalgia and " Yuppie flu " . Wallace (1991:943) divides the various synonyms into two groups: epidemic and endemic. Synonyms in the former group include: epidemic neuromyaesthenia, Adelaide epidemic, Royal Free disease, Iceland disease and Lake Tahoe disease, whilst synonyms in the latter group include: myalgic encephalomyelitis, fibrositis myalgia, " Yuppie " flu, idiopathic chronic fatigue syndrome, Epstein Barr disease and chronic infectious mononucleosis. The eponyms in the former group derive from areas of the world where epidemics have been documented. These epidemics give some support to the hypothesis that, in some circumstances at least, the condition is transmissible. The synonyms for the endemic form of CFS appear to be based largely on the unproven assumption that infective agents have a role to play in the causation of the condition. Despite this expectation, plausible studies have yet to corroborate such a view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 Technically the CDC uses the term " epidemic " only when the disease is proven to be contagious. Until then it is called a " cluster. " We may not bother to be so picky unless we want to pick. Just to be pesky let me repeat that the epidemiology study in Wichita, Kansas did find more cases within families and they were not only blood relatives but spouses and step children as well. This would indicate a contagious disease at least at a low level. Furthermore this study indicated TWICE as many cases in rural areas. This would suggest a possible insect or animal borne pathogen. Have I mentioned lately that one cfs specialist in Alabama found that over 90% of his cfs patients actually had Lyme? Don't you guys get sick of me picking at old bits of information? a Carnes > > " yildiz " <yildiz22@> wrote: > > I am the one who opened the poll. I was using the word epidemic as > uses at his posts. > > > I am thinking that if an illness can be an epidemic it should be > contagious. > > Am I wrong? I personally don't think I am epidemic case as no one > that I have contacted in life has this illness. > > Nil > > > I was thinking of meaning no. 1, which says infection but doesn't > specify contagion, which is still open to debate. > As Katrina says, the rapid spread, growth, and development of this > phenomenon qualifies it as an " epidemic " whether it is contagious or > not. > - > > 1. Spreading rapidly and extensively by infection and affecting many > individuals in an area or a population at the same time: an epidemic > outbreak of influenza. > 2. Widely prevalent: epidemic discontent. > n. > 1. An outbreak of a contagious disease that spreads rapidly and > widely. > 2. A rapid spread, growth, or development: an unemployment epidemic. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 > > > I am the one who opened the poll. I was using the word epidemic > as > > uses at his posts. > > > > > I am thinking that if an illness can be an epidemic it should be > > contagious. > > > Am I wrong? I personally don't think I am epidemic case as no > one > > that I have contacted in life has this illness. > > > Nil > > > > > > I was thinking of meaning no. 1, which says infection but doesn't > > specify contagion, which is still open to debate. > > As Katrina says, the rapid spread, growth, and development of this > > phenomenon qualifies it as an " epidemic " whether it is contagious > or > > not. > > - > > > > 1. Spreading rapidly and extensively by infection and affecting many > > individuals in an area or a population at the same time: an epidemic > > outbreak of influenza. > > 2. Widely prevalent: epidemic discontent. > > n. > > 1. An outbreak of a contagious disease that spreads rapidly and > > widely. > > 2. A rapid spread, growth, or development: an unemployment epidemic. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 Katrina, Perhaps we all have syphilis. It also will skew an IgM test for borrelia. Maybe I should start adding syphilis to my pet list of causes of cfs. I guess the doctor in Alabama is just as stupid as I am and only ran IgM tests to diagnose all those patients with Lyme. Perhaps we are having an epidemic or is it an outbreak or cluster of syphillis and we just didn't know it. - a Carnes http://www.igenex.com/lymeopt2.htm " When the IgM ELISA is equivocal or positive, the IgM Western blot must be performed. In addition, because the literature suggests that rheumatoid conditions may lead to false positive IgM antibody responses, an ANA/DNA/rheumatoid factor screen may be ordered to rule out false positive reactions. Patients testing positive with serologic tests for syphilis may also test positive for the Lyme antibody tests.13-15 " > > > > > > I am the one who opened the poll. I was using the word epidemic > > as > > > uses at his posts. > > > > > > > I am thinking that if an illness can be an epidemic it should be > > > contagious. > > > > Am I wrong? I personally don't think I am epidemic case as no > > one > > > that I have contacted in life has this illness. > > > > Nil > > > > > > > > > I was thinking of meaning no. 1, which says infection but doesn't > > > specify contagion, which is still open to debate. > > > As Katrina says, the rapid spread, growth, and development of this > > > phenomenon qualifies it as an " epidemic " whether it is contagious > > or > > > not. > > > - > > > > > > 1. Spreading rapidly and extensively by infection and affecting many > > > individuals in an area or a population at the same time: an epidemic > > > outbreak of influenza. > > > 2. Widely prevalent: epidemic discontent. > > > n. > > > 1. An outbreak of a contagious disease that spreads rapidly and > > > widely. > > > 2. A rapid spread, growth, or development: an unemployment epidemic. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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