Guest guest Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 Some people can't tolerate the flush at all and stop taking B3. I took it and dealt w/ the flushes, and it brot my cholesterol down to where my PCP stopped trying to put my on an expensive drug like Lipitor. I don't think it has any real use for CFS, unless, like me, your cholesterol went way up after getting CFS and you need to bring it down. One last thing-I started taking it right before I went to sleep, so the flush didn't bother me because I was sleeping. Mike C > > Hi all, > I have a specific question now and I hope somebody can help me. > Almost three weeks ago I started to take vit. B3, the kind that is > supposed to give a flush. > > Until now I have experienced a real flush two, maybe three times, > getting very hot and my skin feeling almost like burning. Some other > times I just felt a little bit hotter than before, but most of the > time I don't feel anything different. I take a 100mg capsule 2 times > a day > > Can anyone tell what it means to have a flush, and especially what > it means not to have a flush? > Can it be related to taking the B3 with food or not, or with walking > after taking it, whatever! > Also would the B3 be working at all if I have no flush? > > Thanks, > > nne > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 nne Most folks take about 500 mg of Niacin, with each meal. IE,, three times a day. You are taking a low dose. DO you plan to increase the dose? Do you take it on an empty stomach or with food? THe flush is from blood getting into the smallest capillaries and hence improving circulation, etc. mjh " The Basil Book " _http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/_ (http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/) Posted by: " marvangent " _mar@... _ (mailto:mar@...?Subject=Re: B3%20flush) _marvangent _ (marvangent) Tue Oct 24, 2006 9:07 am (PST) Hi all, I have been a member of this group for years, but haven't been active. The last years the volume was too much to keep up with, but even just reading sometimes has been very inspirational :-). Same also for Ken's site. I have a specific question now and I hope somebody can help me. Almost three weeks ago I started to take vit. B3, the kind that is supposed to give a flush. Until now I have experienced a real flush two, maybe three times, getting very hot and my skin feeling almost like burning. Some other times I just felt a little bit hotter than before, but most of the time I don't feel anything different. I take a 100mg capsule 2 times a day Can anyone tell what it means to have a flush, and especially what it means not to have a flush? Can it be related to taking the B3 with food or not, or with walking after taking it, whatever! Also would the B3 be working at all if I have no flush? Thanks, nne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 Phil I think the liver issue is not with Niacin but with FLUSH FREE Niacin, a different substance. mjh " The Basil Book " _http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/_ (http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/) Posted by: " Phil " _fi11ip@... _ (mailto:fi11ip@...?Subject= Re:%20B3%20flush) _swiss_phill _ (swiss_phill) Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:46 am (PST) Hi, Comments below: > Most folks take about 500 mg of Niacin, with each meal. IE,, three times a > day. As I've heard it, there is potential for liver damage at these sorts of doses (1000mg+ a day), which is why I stick to 500mg a day. > THe flush is from blood getting into the smallest capillaries and hence > improving circulation, etc. If I remember correctly, the rationale is that opening up small blood vessels allows the blood into areas it wasn't previously reaching, so improving the healing process. According to Dr Myhill's paper on heart failure, this opening up of things helps improve the blood supply to all the major organs (including the skin), so in turn improving their functioning. Persoanlly I love the flushing, because it clears my head (all too briefly) and I can think straight! Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 Hi, Comments below: > Most folks take about 500 mg of Niacin, with each meal. IE,, three times a > day. As I've heard it, there is potential for liver damage at these sorts of doses (1000mg+ a day), which is why I stick to 500mg a day. > THe flush is from blood getting into the smallest capillaries and hence > improving circulation, etc. If I remember correctly, the rationale is that opening up small blood vessels allows the blood into areas it wasn't previously reaching, so improving the healing process. According to Dr Myhill's paper on heart failure, this opening up of things helps improve the blood supply to all the major organs (including the skin), so in turn improving their functioning. Persoanlly I love the flushing, because it clears my head (all too briefly) and I can think straight! Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 Hi nne, If you have a flush that you cannot tolerate you can take an antihistamine like Benadryl or the generic Dyphenhydramine to releive the flush. It takes a little while for the antihistamine to act, but if you've got a bad flush it's nice to have the relief available. Dyphenhydramine can be purchased without a prescription at any drug store. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 I am wondering if doing a magnesium flush right before an IV treatment will make it any easier to get a good IV site blood flow? Anyone know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 > > Can anyone tell what it means to have a flush, and especially what > it means not to have a flush? > Can it be related to taking the B3 with food or not, or with walking > after taking it, whatever! > Also would the B3 be working at all if I have no flush? Taking the Niacin with meals will slow down or even negate a flush (for me). Vitamin C will prevent, or cease, a flush. A buffered, powdered vit C will be fastest acting if you are trying to stop a flush. Issues with liver damage are re Niacinamide, not Niacin. I seem to develop a tolerance to the Niacin and require a higher dose to flush. I do not know what that means. Jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 > > I am wondering if doing a magnesium flush right before an IV treatment will > make it any easier to get a good IV site blood flow? Anyone know? > Not sure what you mean by that, but if you mean " easier to get a vein to insert the IV needle " - a good way to do that is: ** to hydrate yourself well by drinking enough water for several hours before the IV ** place a heating pad over the site of the vein intended for the IV needle insertion (like in the bend of your arm) That is what has worked for me, a " tough stick " Jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Hi, Thank you all for the info on flushing. It is nice to know vit C will be helping with too much flush :-) I am a bit experimenting now, and yesterday took 200 mg and had an immediate flush. Today I had half a flush on 100 mg, interestingly it started after dinner, while I had the B3 an hour before dinner. I think I am going to try 200 mg 3 times a day for getting three flushes, if not try to take a bit more still. Maybe in time I would be able to take more. Would it make sense to take more than is necessary to create the flush? I mean, is 1500 mg a day of B3 needed as such for the system or do you take these doses to create a flush? Also, if a perfectly healthy person, with optimal circulation, took B3 would there still be a flush? Thanks again, nne > > > > Can anyone tell what it means to have a flush, and especially what > > it means not to have a flush? > > Can it be related to taking the B3 with food or not, or with > walking > > after taking it, whatever! > > Also would the B3 be working at all if I have no flush? > > Taking the Niacin with meals will slow down or even negate a flush > (for me). > > Vitamin C will prevent, or cease, a flush. A buffered, powdered vit > C will be fastest acting if you are trying to stop a flush. > > Issues with liver damage are re Niacinamide, not Niacin. > > I seem to develop a tolerance to the Niacin and require a higher > dose to flush. I do not know what that means. > > Jo > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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