Re: Re: Report on Yasko conference--Boston, October 7-8, ...

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In a message dated 12/10/2006 16:56:06 GMT Standard Time,

campbells53@... writes:

Me too,

BW,

Sheila

> Hi, all.

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> I attended the Amy Yasko conference in Boston last weekend. Since our

> moderator has requested that we discuss the Yasko treatment program in

> the CFS_Yasko group, I have posted my reports on the conference there,

> so, in case anyone here is interested, you can find them over there.

>

> Rich

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Me too.

Regards

CS

[Guest guest]

Yes, I agree completely. I am more than a little upset about curtailing

the Yasko discussions.

I can't handle any more newsgroups so maybe this is the one that will

have to go.

Kathy

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In a message dated 12/10/2006 16:56:06 GMT Standard Time,

campbells53@ <mailto:campbells53%40biscituk.com> biscituk.com writes:

Me too,

BW,

Sheila

> Hi, all.

>

> I attended the Amy Yasko conference in Boston last weekend. Since our

> moderator has requested that we discuss the Yasko treatment program in

> the CFS_Yasko group, I have posted my reports on the conference there,

> so, in case anyone here is interested, you can find them over there.

>

> Rich

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[Guest guest]

what I dont understand is why the need to chose one or the other? Why does the

existence of another group on a subject preclude discussion of that

subject on this group? The discussion section of this group should be open to

all topics relevant to CFS research and treatment. The moderator should only

step in when the tone of the discussion is inappropriate or when topics other

than research and treatment are being discussed. This group can handle multiple

discussion topics. I am not a Yasko fan but this group wants to discuss Yasko I

think it should be able to. I do not understand the moderators position here.

yakcamp22 <yakcamp22@...> wrote:

Kathy-before you quit this group to go to a Yasko only group, my two

cents are that it would be a bad idea. Even tho I would like to hear

more about Yasko, the last I heard from this list was that she was

doing expensive testing for certain genes/gene fragments. If then the

patient was found to have abnormal genetic indicators, then certain

herbs or supplements were to be prescribed, specific to each case.

If that is what you want to pursue instead of this list that talks

about any and everything, that is up to you. I personally feel that

a CFS treatment that results in substantial improvement will require

more than herbs, supplements and vitamins. Dr. Yasko is not an M.D.

Mike C

>

> Yes, I agree completely. I am more than a little upset about

curtailing

> the Yasko discussions.

>

> I can't handle any more newsgroups so maybe this is the one that will

> have to go.

>

> Kathy

>

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> bhammanuk@...

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[Guest guest]

Well, I am a living refutation-unless you want to argue with me about how

substantial my recovery is. My health provider, is not an MD, either. The only

prescription " stuff " I have ever used w. success is some antibiotics for acute

infections. (Pain meds on occasion I suppose.) Those " tiny " doses of Prozac I

tried years ago almost killed me.

But I have been resolving one problem after another with the things you say

can't help enough. Plus massage and other non-traditional treatments, plus

change in diet, and lately, physical therapy in small, carefully measured steps

where I decide what and how much to do.

And believe me, I had a s---load of symptoms and have been sick for decades. If

I had had money, it would've taken less time to get well, but here I am:

pain significantly diminished

digestion, eroded esophagus remarkably healed; near perfect.

hardly ever nap anymore; used to be I could hardly wake up

Brain; ahh, my brain! I make my life as complicated as I can these days, just

for the fun of it. Memory! Focus! Concentration! Ahh. Really. I find my self

thinking while in movement. Used to be impossible to solve a problem on the go.

Muscle strength coming back. Flexibility increasing. RArely depresed any more.

Slept 8hrs last night. Had a deep massage and did not crap out afterward. Been

keeping my immunity up and any resident bugs at bay. Etc Etc.

Yesterday walked a block to get a newspaper! At NINE IN THE MORNING???!

Getting to church more, going to movies more, working more earning a little

more, (home-based business.) EAting less and enjoying it more.

No one part of it is all the way where I would like it to be, but gee.Brain is

the best part. Still stiff, still obese, still slow, still get tired. (I *am*

68!)

So there!

Oh yeah; also am using constant prayer.

Adrienne

Re: Report on Yasko conference--Boston, October

7-8, ...

Kathy-before you quit this group to go to a Yasko only group, my two

cents are that it would be a bad idea. Even tho I would like to hear

more about Yasko, the last I heard from this list was that she was

doing expensive testing for certain genes/gene fragments. If then the

patient was found to have abnormal genetic indicators, then certain

herbs or supplements were to be prescribed, specific to each case.

If that is what you want to pursue instead of this list that talks

about any and everything, that is up to you. I personally feel that

a CFS treatment that results in substantial improvement will require

more than herbs, supplements and vitamins. Dr. Yasko is not an M.D.

Mike C

>

> Yes, I agree completely. I am more than a little upset about

curtailing

> the Yasko discussions.

>

> I can't handle any more newsgroups so maybe this is the one that will

> have to go.

>

> Kathy

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From:

> [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

> bhammanuk@...

This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

[Guest guest]

Yes, Marilyn, true.

It has come over a long period; since'99, mostly when I met the N.P who treated

me so long for free. (Survived long enough to get on Medicare, now.) Nowadays

the improvements are accelerating since I began the neurotransmitter balancing

formulas, and now most recently, the P.T..

Interestingly, the first things I was led to through inner guidance in the very

beginning was DLPhenylalanine and trypto. The former was such a rough ride, I am

so glad it is out of my life.

Adrienne

Re: Report on Yasko conference--Boston, October

7-8, ...

Adrienne

Hey, Lady....... better late than never

Glad to read of your significant improvement!

mjh

" The Basil Book "

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Yesterday walked a block to get a newspaper! At NINE IN THE MORNING???!

Getting to church more, going to movies more, working more earning a little

more, (home-based business.) EAting less and enjoying it more.

No one part of it is all the way where I would like it to be, but gee.Brain

is the best part. Still stiff, still obese, still slow, still get tired. (I

*am* 68!)

So there!

Oh yeah; also am using constant prayer.

Adrienne

[Guest guest]

Adreinne,

May I ask you what you did specifically about your eroded esophogus. I'm afraid

it's an ongoing problem for because of a hiatel hernia. I occassionally have to

resort to over the counter stuff for a few weeks and that seems to clear it up,

limiting the stomach acid. My bed is at a 10 inch slant to minimize reflux and

I'm very careful not to eat close to bedtime.

Edy

Re: Report on Yasko conference--Boston, October

7-8, ...

Kathy-before you quit this group to go to a Yasko only group, my two

cents are that it would be a bad idea. Even tho I would like to hear

more about Yasko, the last I heard from this list was that she was

doing expensive testing for certain genes/gene fragments. If then the

patient was found to have abnormal genetic indicators, then certain

herbs or supplements were to be prescribed, specific to each case.

If that is what you want to pursue instead of this list that talks

about any and everything, that is up to you. I personally feel that

a CFS treatment that results in substantial improvement will require

more than herbs, supplements and vitamins. Dr. Yasko is not an M.D.

Mike C

>

> Yes, I agree completely. I am more than a little upset about

curtailing

> the Yasko discussions.

>

> I can't handle any more newsgroups so maybe this is the one that will

> have to go.

>

> Kathy

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From:

> [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

> bhammanuk@...

This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

[Guest guest]

Edy, I have the same hernia.

I used big heap of feather pillows to elevate myself. Lower fat helped. Never

used even otc pharmaceuticals. My naturopath says the problem is too little

stomach acid, not too much. If the food mass needing to move along, (the chyme),

is not acidified adequately, the lower sphincter that is supposed to open and

let it pass wont open.

It took a long time, and there is still some soreness there, but for long term

the main healing agent has been Tyler's Gastric Complex. For short term

discomfort, three things; licorice (DGL), aloe vera gel, and Liquid Calcium &

MAg. by Innovative Natural Products.

I have to eat lots of green leafies, too, to keep things moving on out. Any

elimination problems make for trouble w. the esophagus. Aloe vera gel both

soothes/ heals damaged tissue and promotes bowel movement.

At a recent visit to my massager, I was able to lie on my back even though I

still had food in my stomach from lunch. A miracle.

Adrienne

Re: Report on Yasko conference--Boston, October

7-8, ...

Kathy-before you quit this group to go to a Yasko only group, my two

cents are that it would be a bad idea. Even tho I would like to hear

more about Yasko, the last I heard from this list was that she was

doing expensive testing for certain genes/gene fragments. If then the

patient was found to have abnormal genetic indicators, then certain

herbs or supplements were to be prescribed, specific to each case.

If that is what you want to pursue instead of this list that talks

about any and everything, that is up to you. I personally feel that

a CFS treatment that results in substantial improvement will require

more than herbs, supplements and vitamins. Dr. Yasko is not an M.D.

Mike C

>

> Yes, I agree completely. I am more than a little upset about

curtailing

> the Yasko discussions.

>

> I can't handle any more newsgroups so maybe this is the one that will

> have to go.

>

> Kathy

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From:

> [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

> bhammanuk@...

This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

[Guest guest]

I dont think one or even several heated messages should be sufficient to shut

down an entire topic. Why let a few ruin it for all? Much better to punish the

offenders than everyone else - why not simply put them on alert or whatever it

is?

yakcamp22 <yakcamp22@...> wrote: Cort-if you will email my bc

@ yakcamp22@..., I will

forward you the answer that I received from someone who followed the

Yasko thread. Apparently the moderators at that time decided the

thread was becoming too heated, but I would like to hereby request

that we be allowed to talk about Yasko again since we are all older

and wiser!!! Actually Cort,I have your address-message coming bc.

Mike C

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> > Yes, I agree completely. I am more than a little upset about

> curtailing

> > the Yasko discussions.

> >

> > I can't handle any more newsgroups so maybe this is the one that

will

> > have to go.

> >

> > Kathy

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[Guest guest]

I missed the whole thing but that has been a major arena of discussion for how

long? a year now? -a long time before this flare up occurred. I cant imagine

that most people who discussed that topic are on moderation - that has been the

single biggest topic in this message board for some time now. I think moderating

people rather than the subject of the discussion itself is a good way to cool

the fires and still give everyone access to this topic.

kattemayo <kattemayo@...> wrote:

Cort,

These are questions for the Moderator. Could you please direct them to him? You

seem to have missed, and not be accepting the extent of pain and resentment this

issue built to. Most people posting on it ended up on Moderation.

Rather than continue to try to stir it up again (Both lists have been peaceful

ever since), will you please take this up with the Moderator.

Thank you,

Katrina

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> > > Yes, I agree completely. I am more than a little upset about

> > curtailing

> > > the Yasko discussions.

> > >

> > > I can't handle any more newsgroups so maybe this is the one that

> will

> > > have to go.

> > >

> > > Kathy

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> > > bhammanuk@

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