theories, opinions, speculations

[Guest guest]

Adrienne and

Three books I like on the neurotransmitter issues are:

The Edge Effect and Healing Nutrients Within by Braverman, MD

THe Mood Cure by Ross

Magnesium is critical to so many functions, sometimes my body needed about 2

grams a day. See _www.mgwater.com_ (http://www.mgwater.com) ,

_http://george-eby-research.com/html/dep.html_

(http://george-eby-research.com/html/dep.html) , _www.exatest.com_

(http://www.exatest.com)

Vitamin B complex is also important.

The herb, Ginkgo biloba helps improve memory as does enough Omega-3 fatty

acids as found in fish oil. See Stoll's Omega Connection.

And, eleminating excitotoxins. See Blaylock's Excitotoxins.

Adrienne, what are you taking to balance neurotransmitters and make your

mind more stable?

mjh

" The Basil Book "

_http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/_ (http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/)

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Re:%20theories,%20opinions,%20speculations) _notmyd4y _

(notmyd4y)

Wed Aug 16, 2006 1:03 am (PST)

Well I'm new to this group and I don't know you but I'm interested in

how to get more mind stable and how to get an improved memory. I take

Magnesium in order to raise threshold potentials as Cheney says but I

only take some 400mg oraly at nights so it will probably last some

weeks or months till I see first results (I'm not sure if I see any

results at all).

On the other side I don't know what to do in order to improve my

memory and I don't know much about neurotransmitter. It would be kind

if you could tell me more about it and your experiences.

> I must say, my emotions used to get stirred a lot more easily-labile

is the word- before I started taking the formulas that address

neurotransmitter imbalances. My doc had me test my urine, to see which

were out of balance. (And I cannot find my copy of the report, but

when I get another I will post it. Still in the process of getting

organized myself.) Meanwhile, anyone interested in feeling more

emotionally stable- and improved memory and other mind symptoms, ask

me; I'll be glad to go into more detail. :-)

>

> Adrienne

[Guest guest]

Scientific (or otherwise) ideas. They are kind of a commodity. On a marketplace.

And people buy what they want to buy for whatever reason. Whatever their truth

value is-up to a point.

Myself, I pay some attention to the packaging, when it is a matter of

speculation or theory or opinion. If ideas are wrapped in a storm of unpleasant

emotions/attitudes, I am not staying around long enough to find out if they are

true or not. (If someone comes along and transforms -interprets-the package for

me, I may be blessed to learn the truth of the matter.)

When people clearly can't write in an organized focused way, I am gonna learn a

lot less from them. When they are disorganized and hateful too, I am not gonna

believe anything they say.

That's me. I guess some people may like just the opposite; passionate ranting

inspires them. I suppose.

But the point I am trying to make, is that people get to buy whatever suits

them. And if one seller's product is more attractive, so be it. They are not to

blame for being attractive.

Where it really is about hard goods, a seller can be driven away from the

marketplace by the market forces. But anyone is free to keep repeating

themselves here as much as they want to. (And I am free to block any who really

bug me.)

I often offer my experience here, the little bits and pieces of success I have

had with my experiments, experiments that, one by one have been removing my

symptoms. Hardly anyone recognizes my attempts at contributing. Tough. Not my

problem. I have offered what I have; done my part.

I must say, my emotions used to get stirred a lot more easily-labile is the

word- before I started taking the formulas that address neurotransmitter

imbalances. My doc had me test my urine, to see which were out of balance. (And

I cannot find my copy of the report, but when I get another I will post it.

Still in the process of getting organized myself.) Meanwhile, anyone interested

in feeling more emotionally stable- and improved memory and other mind symptoms,

ask me; I'll be glad to go into more detail. :-)

Adrienne

[Guest guest]

Well I'm new to this group and I don't know you but I'm interested in

how to get more mind stable and how to get an improved memory. I take

Magnesium in order to raise threshold potentials as Cheney says but I

only take some 400mg oraly at nights so it will probably last some

weeks or months till I see first results (I'm not sure if I see any

results at all).

On the other side I don't know what to do in order to improve my

memory and I don't know much about neurotransmitter. It would be kind

if you could tell me more about it and your experiences.

> I must say, my emotions used to get stirred a lot more easily-labile

is the word- before I started taking the formulas that address

neurotransmitter imbalances. My doc had me test my urine, to see which

were out of balance. (And I cannot find my copy of the report, but

when I get another I will post it. Still in the process of getting

organized myself.) Meanwhile, anyone interested in feeling more

emotionally stable- and improved memory and other mind symptoms, ask

me; I'll be glad to go into more detail. :-)

>

> Adrienne

>

>

[Guest guest]

Well, ,

Welcome, and let me say first that if not for this list, I would be way worse

off than I am now. I was much sicker when I got here and could barely make out

what I was reading from most people, but listening to one clear fellow who was

regaining his life was enough to point me along. I used the information I could

make sense of or afford, and was obliged to leave the rest.

Okay, my experiences with mental/neurological stuff.

Problems I have had;

terrible short term memory loss, including inability to remember the names of

objects, and people.

No focus, no concentration, vertigo, depression. Blankness; staring into space.

Overwhelmed by stimulation of all sorts, disorganized.Stopped being able to

spell or do calculations.

Anxiety.Easily agitated or angry. Feeling victimized.Confused.Demented.

Wow, it feels weird to remember all that at once. Good thing I am now honestly

enjoying my mind. I don't know if it is working quite as well as it should, but

it is such a victory every time I make a considered decision, solve a problem,

or realize I actually know where my dentures are. And that things do not upset

me like they used to. And I can have emotions and still think, too.No more

blotto.

Before I go further, let me zero in on my experience with Magnesium. I took it

because I was told to here. Then after a while, I mistakenly thought I needed to

stop. I got blanker and blanker without realizing it was happening- and my

muscles were getting weaker, too. I finally noticed the muscle weakness, and

pondered it, and the inner voice said I was to get back on the Mg immediately,

and I did, and after a few days I could feel improvement, but, I don't think I

ever gained back all I lost then. Except maybe recently. I still take it, and am

planning to increase it as I can.

I should say, too, that all the symptoms I talked about always were worsened

with increased fatigue. I still need to get horizontal a lot.

OK

One of the first supplements that I ever took, (didn't use any before I became

chronic in about 1976 or so), was DL-phenylalanine, an amino acid that is very

excitatory. Helps with depression, pain, and suppresses appetite. It was

definitely the lesser of 2 evils to use it. It has side-effects, and I used it

from the early '80's until a month or so ago. Could not get off of it until my

more recent advances. I really felt like it was harming my brain, but I was

worse off without it.

Then I began to balance it with tryptophan, another amino acid, and things got

more tolerable. Tryptophan is like a good friend to me. I take one 500mg (and ,

for awhile I was taking 2), capsule at bedtime. It made me calmer, less anxious,

more rested, even though it shortened my sleep time a bit.

I think the next thing I learned to use was St.'s Wort, for depression. I

still use it about half the time. I take a tincture, so that I can get just the

right amount.

I used to use a lot of caffeine-diet Cokes, mainly- but it makes me angry and

nasty after a few days, so I am very careful about my intake, limiting it to a

few cups of green tea/wk. I also do not eat sugar, and that promotes stability

and clarity.

One of the most important things I learned about here was to use (prescription)

injectible b12. That made me feel like my brain was much better overall, but

most especially, my memory started to work again. I still use it a few times/wk

and notice myself regressing if I do not. It does not help some people, I hear,

but at one time there was a consensus here about its value.

I also learned here about growth hormone. I use a homeopathic version. It gives

me energy, and that helps my brain. Likewise I take a product, a complex, called

Propax with N.T. Factor, which contributes to my energy and thus my brain. I am

working out the dosage these days.

The most recent advance I have made has been, as I wrote ,to take products from

www.neuroscienceinc.com. to balance my neurotransmitters; some in the morning

that are arousing, and others at bedtime, for calming and sleep. (This requires

testing. The firm can help you find a doc who works with them. There is an 800#

on the site.)

It was these that really, well, balanced my emotions. And further cleared my

thinking so problem-solving and remembering are actually fun. Feeling challenged

is not a disaster, just life.

So, that's where I am right now, tinkering with dosages, since that changes over

time. I keep needing less of most things. These are not all the things I take,

but the ones that most relate to brain.

Everything I have mentioned here, except probably the phenylalanine and

definitely not the website I just wrote of has been discussed on this forum. I

suggest you search the archives for those discussions in order to begin to

answer the questions you are sure to have. Don't expect to master all this

quickly if your brain is off- and this is just one person's experience.

Adrienne

Re: theories, opinions, speculations

Well I'm new to this group and I don't know you but I'm interested in

how to get more mind stable and how to get an improved memory. I take

Magnesium in order to raise threshold potentials as Cheney says but I

only take some 400mg oraly at nights so it will probably last some

weeks or months till I see first results (I'm not sure if I see any

results at all).

On the other side I don't know what to do in order to improve my

memory and I don't know much about neurotransmitter. It would be kind

if you could tell me more about it and your experiences.

> I must say, my emotions used to get stirred a lot more easily-labile

is the word- before I started taking the formulas that address

neurotransmitter imbalances. My doc had me test my urine, to see which

were out of balance. (And I cannot find my copy of the report, but

when I get another I will post it. Still in the process of getting

organized myself.) Meanwhile, anyone interested in feeling more

emotionally stable- and improved memory and other mind symptoms, ask

me; I'll be glad to go into more detail. :-)

>

> Adrienne

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Adrienne,

What is the brand name of the HG Homeopathic that you take?

Thanks, Sue T

" Adrienne G. " <duckblossm@...> wrote:

Well, ,

Welcome, and let me say first that if not for this list, I would be way worse

off than I am now. I was much sicker when I got here and could barely make out

what I was reading from most people, but listening to one clear fellow who was

regaining his life was enough to point me along. I used the information I could

make sense of or afford, and was obliged to leave the rest.

Okay, my experiences with mental/neurological stuff.

Problems I have had;

terrible short term memory loss, including inability to remember the names of

objects, and people.

No focus, no concentration, vertigo, depression. Blankness; staring into space.

Overwhelmed by stimulation of all sorts, disorganized.Stopped being able to

spell or do calculations.

Anxiety.Easily agitated or angry. Feeling victimized.Confused.Demented.

Wow, it feels weird to remember all that at once. Good thing I am now honestly

enjoying my mind. I don't know if it is working quite as well as it should, but

it is such a victory every time I make a considered decision, solve a problem,

or realize I actually know where my dentures are. And that things do not upset

me like they used to. And I can have emotions and still think, too.No more

blotto.

Before I go further, let me zero in on my experience with Magnesium. I took it

because I was told to here. Then after a while, I mistakenly thought I needed to

stop. I got blanker and blanker without realizing it was happening- and my

muscles were getting weaker, too. I finally noticed the muscle weakness, and

pondered it, and the inner voice said I was to get back on the Mg immediately,

and I did, and after a few days I could feel improvement, but, I don't think I

ever gained back all I lost then. Except maybe recently. I still take it, and am

planning to increase it as I can.

I should say, too, that all the symptoms I talked about always were worsened

with increased fatigue. I still need to get horizontal a lot.

OK

One of the first supplements that I ever took, (didn't use any before I became

chronic in about 1976 or so), was DL-phenylalanine, an amino acid that is very

excitatory. Helps with depression, pain, and suppresses appetite. It was

definitely the lesser of 2 evils to use it. It has side-effects, and I used it

from the early '80's until a month or so ago. Could not get off of it until my

more recent advances. I really felt like it was harming my brain, but I was

worse off without it.

Then I began to balance it with tryptophan, another amino acid, and things got

more tolerable. Tryptophan is like a good friend to me. I take one 500mg (and ,

for awhile I was taking 2), capsule at bedtime. It made me calmer, less anxious,

more rested, even though it shortened my sleep time a bit.

I think the next thing I learned to use was St.'s Wort, for depression. I

still use it about half the time. I take a tincture, so that I can get just the

right amount.

I used to use a lot of caffeine-diet Cokes, mainly- but it makes me angry and

nasty after a few days, so I am very careful about my intake, limiting it to a

few cups of green tea/wk. I also do not eat sugar, and that promotes stability

and clarity.

One of the most important things I learned about here was to use (prescription)

injectible b12. That made me feel like my brain was much better overall, but

most especially, my memory started to work again. I still use it a few times/wk

and notice myself regressing if I do not. It does not help some people, I hear,

but at one time there was a consensus here about its value.

I also learned here about growth hormone. I use a homeopathic version. It gives

me energy, and that helps my brain. Likewise I take a product, a complex, called

Propax with N.T. Factor, which contributes to my energy and thus my brain. I am

working out the dosage these days.

The most recent advance I have made has been, as I wrote ,to take products from

www.neuroscienceinc.com. to balance my neurotransmitters; some in the morning

that are arousing, and others at bedtime, for calming and sleep. (This requires

testing. The firm can help you find a doc who works with them. There is an 800#

on the site.)

It was these that really, well, balanced my emotions. And further cleared my

thinking so problem-solving and remembering are actually fun. Feeling challenged

is not a disaster, just life.

So, that's where I am right now, tinkering with dosages, since that changes over

time. I keep needing less of most things. These are not all the things I take,

but the ones that most relate to brain.

Everything I have mentioned here, except probably the phenylalanine and

definitely not the website I just wrote of has been discussed on this forum. I

suggest you search the archives for those discussions in order to begin to

answer the questions you are sure to have. Don't expect to master all this

quickly if your brain is off- and this is just one person's experience.

Adrienne

Re: theories, opinions, speculations

Well I'm new to this group and I don't know you but I'm interested in

how to get more mind stable and how to get an improved memory. I take

Magnesium in order to raise threshold potentials as Cheney says but I

only take some 400mg oraly at nights so it will probably last some

weeks or months till I see first results (I'm not sure if I see any

results at all).

On the other side I don't know what to do in order to improve my

memory and I don't know much about neurotransmitter. It would be kind

if you could tell me more about it and your experiences.

> I must say, my emotions used to get stirred a lot more easily-labile

is the word- before I started taking the formulas that address

neurotransmitter imbalances. My doc had me test my urine, to see which

were out of balance. (And I cannot find my copy of the report, but

when I get another I will post it. Still in the process of getting

organized myself.) Meanwhile, anyone interested in feeling more

emotionally stable- and improved memory and other mind symptoms, ask

me; I'll be glad to go into more detail. :-)

>

> Adrienne

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am trying to boost my neurotransmitters right now, using the Mood

Cure book. Taking tyrosine in morning, the D form of phenylanine,

called DPA, instead of DLPA, and tryptophan at night. Also getting

some inositol for depression.

moodcure.com has the DPA, which is not supposed to be stimulating

like the DLPA.

Helen

>

> Well, ,

> Welcome, and let me say first that if not for this list, I would be

way worse off than I am now. I was much sicker when I got here and

could barely make out what I was reading from most people, but

listening to one clear fellow who was regaining his life was enough

to point me along. I used the information I could make sense of or

afford, and was obliged to leave the rest.

>

> Okay, my experiences with mental/neurological stuff.

> Problems I have had;

> terrible short term memory loss, including inability to remember

the names of objects, and people.

> No focus, no concentration, vertigo, depression. Blankness; staring

into space.

> Overwhelmed by stimulation of all sorts, disorganized.Stopped being

able to spell or do calculations.

> Anxiety.Easily agitated or angry. Feeling

victimized.Confused.Demented.

>

> Wow, it feels weird to remember all that at once. Good thing I am

now honestly enjoying my mind. I don't know if it is working quite as

well as it should, but it is such a victory every time I make a

considered decision, solve a problem, or realize I actually know

where my dentures are. And that things do not upset me like they used

to. And I can have emotions and still think, too.No more blotto.

>

> Before I go further, let me zero in on my experience with

Magnesium. I took it because I was told to here. Then after a while,

I mistakenly thought I needed to stop. I got blanker and blanker

without realizing it was happening- and my muscles were getting

weaker, too. I finally noticed the muscle weakness, and pondered it,

and the inner voice said I was to get back on the Mg immediately, and

I did, and after a few days I could feel improvement, but, I don't

think I ever gained back all I lost then. Except maybe recently. I

still take it, and am planning to increase it as I can.

>

> I should say, too, that all the symptoms I talked about always were

worsened with increased fatigue. I still need to get horizontal a lot.

>

> OK

> One of the first supplements that I ever took, (didn't use any

before I became chronic in about 1976 or so), was DL-phenylalanine,

an amino acid that is very excitatory. Helps with depression, pain,

and suppresses appetite. It was definitely the lesser of 2 evils to

use it. It has side-effects, and I used it from the early '80's until

a month or so ago. Could not get off of it until my more recent

advances. I really felt like it was harming my brain, but I was worse

off without it.

>

> Then I began to balance it with tryptophan, another amino acid, and

things got more tolerable. Tryptophan is like a good friend to me. I

take one 500mg (and , for awhile I was taking 2), capsule at bedtime.

It made me calmer, less anxious, more rested, even though it

shortened my sleep time a bit.

>

> I think the next thing I learned to use was St.'s Wort, for

depression. I still use it about half the time. I take a tincture, so

that I can get just the right amount.

>

> I used to use a lot of caffeine-diet Cokes, mainly- but it makes me

angry and nasty after a few days, so I am very careful about my

intake, limiting it to a few cups of green tea/wk. I also do not eat

sugar, and that promotes stability and clarity.

>

> One of the most important things I learned about here was to use

(prescription) injectible b12. That made me feel like my brain was

much better overall, but most especially, my memory started to work

again. I still use it a few times/wk and notice myself regressing if

I do not. It does not help some people, I hear, but at one time there

was a consensus here about its value.

>

> I also learned here about growth hormone. I use a homeopathic

version. It gives me energy, and that helps my brain. Likewise I take

a product, a complex, called Propax with N.T. Factor, which

contributes to my energy and thus my brain. I am working out the

dosage these days.

>

> The most recent advance I have made has been, as I wrote ,to take

products from www.neuroscienceinc.com. to balance my

neurotransmitters; some in the morning that are arousing, and others

at bedtime, for calming and sleep. (This requires testing. The firm

can help you find a doc who works with them. There is an 800# on the

site.)

>

> It was these that really, well, balanced my emotions. And further

cleared my thinking so problem-solving and remembering are actually

fun. Feeling challenged is not a disaster, just life.

> So, that's where I am right now, tinkering with dosages, since that

changes over time. I keep needing less of most things. These are not

all the things I take, but the ones that most relate to brain.

>

> Everything I have mentioned here, except probably the

phenylalanine and definitely not the website I just wrote of has been

discussed on this forum. I suggest you search the archives for those

discussions in order to begin to answer the questions you are sure to

have. Don't expect to master all this quickly if your brain is off-

and this is just one person's experience.

> Adrienne

>

>

[Guest guest]

Marilyn, (and Rich, others),

I thought you would never ask. From the little I understand about the Yasko Way,

I am probably doing something wrong, but for now it is the best I can do, much

improvement, and it has gotten me off the phenylalanine, (except for maybe 1 or

2/wk), and that is a step in the right direction.

The one symptom that is most persistant and troubling at this point, is a

feeling of heaviness all over. It's not exactly fatigue, and it definitely isn't

weakness. (I AM 67, and I am also about 80lbs over ideal weight.) I am thinking

heart.

So far I keep having to tinker with the a.m dose, and with the other energy/mood

alterers I take. I missed my apt w. doc this week, so I am in a holding

pattern, re: all that.

Beside the part below, copied from their site, the excitatory product also

contains:

B6,

Folate,

vitC,

Magnesium,

zinc,

manganese,

pantothenic acid,

niacin.

..

ExcitaCor contains a highly purified preparation of Mucuna pruriens to provide

L-dopa and support dopamine synthesis. ExcitaCor also contains the adaptogen

rhodiola, which has been widely studied due to its ability to energize patients,

improve focus, and overcome the fatigue and reduced energy caused by stress.

ExcitaCor contains the semi-essential amino acid histidine which is important

for the production of histamine and stimulates the production of ACTH and the

release of metabolism enhancing glucocorticoids. Histamine is also important in

increasing the release of stimulatory catecholamines.

ExcitaCor also contains N-acetylcysteine to support sulfur-containing-amino acid

pathways including the synthesis of epinephrine and glutathione, the body's

toxin neutralizing powerhouse and free radical scavenger.

Following is the list for the inhibitory formula:

Product Ingredients

B6,

Folic Acid,

Vit C,

MAgnesium,

B12,

Zinc,

selenomethionine

TravaCor contains 5-HTP to support serotonin levels as well as the amino acid

theanine, which has been widely studied for its ability to provide a calming

effect and prevent the neurotransmitter stimulatory effects induced by caffeine.

These studies match observations by NeuroScience Inc. that theanine reduces

norepinephrine, epinephrine and PEA activity/turnover and urinary excretion.

Taurine is another inhibitory amino acid in the TravaCor formula. Taurine acts

by enhancing the effect of GABA. Together these amino acids can quickly reduce

high neurotransmitter excretion.

TravaCor also contains N-acetylcysteine to support sulfur-containing amino acid

pathways including the synthesis of glutathione, the body's toxin neutralizing

powerhouse and free radical scavenger. In addition to being used in the Phase 1

of neurotransmitter optimization, TravaCor is also used during Phase 2 and Phase

3 in patients with persistent excitatory activity.

Re: theories, opinions, speculations

Adrienne and

Three books I like on the neurotransmitter issues are:

The Edge Effect and Healing Nutrients Within by Braverman, MD

THe Mood Cure by Ross

Magnesium is critical to so many functions, sometimes my body needed about 2

grams a day. See _www.mgwater.com_ (http://www.mgwater.com) ,

_http://george-eby-research.com/html/dep.html_

(http://george-eby-research.com/html/dep.html) , _www.exatest.com_

(http://www.exatest.com)

Vitamin B complex is also important.

The herb, Ginkgo biloba helps improve memory as does enough Omega-3 fatty

acids as found in fish oil. See Stoll's Omega Connection.

And, eleminating excitotoxins. See Blaylock's Excitotoxins.

Adrienne, what are you taking to balance neurotransmitters and make your

mind more stable?

mjh

" The Basil Book "

_http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/_ (http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/)

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Re:%20theories,%20opinions,%20speculations) _notmyd4y _

(notmyd4y)

Wed Aug 16, 2006 1:03 am (PST)

Well I'm new to this group and I don't know you but I'm interested in

how to get more mind stable and how to get an improved memory. I take

Magnesium in order to raise threshold potentials as Cheney says but I

only take some 400mg oraly at nights so it will probably last some

weeks or months till I see first results (I'm not sure if I see any

results at all).

On the other side I don't know what to do in order to improve my

memory and I don't know much about neurotransmitter. It would be kind

if you could tell me more about it and your experiences.

> I must say, my emotions used to get stirred a lot more easily-labile

is the word- before I started taking the formulas that address

neurotransmitter imbalances. My doc had me test my urine, to see which

were out of balance. (And I cannot find my copy of the report, but

when I get another I will post it. Still in the process of getting

organized myself.) Meanwhile, anyone interested in feeling more

emotionally stable- and improved memory and other mind symptoms, ask

me; I'll be glad to go into more detail. :-)

>

> Adrienne

[Guest guest]

SueT; Hi!

The Company is www.biomedcomm.com

They have just recently changed both the name and the strength, so I don't

exactly know what is ahead for me. (The new name has somthing about " athletic "

in it, I think.)

Adrienne

Re: theories, opinions, speculations

Well I'm new to this group and I don't know you but I'm interested in

how to get more mind stable and how to get an improved memory. I take

Magnesium in order to raise threshold potentials as Cheney says but I

only take some 400mg oraly at nights so it will probably last some

weeks or months till I see first results (I'm not sure if I see any

results at all).

On the other side I don't know what to do in order to improve my

memory and I don't know much about neurotransmitter. It would be kind

if you could tell me more about it and your experiences.

> I must say, my emotions used to get stirred a lot more easily-labile

is the word- before I started taking the formulas that address

neurotransmitter imbalances. My doc had me test my urine, to see which

were out of balance. (And I cannot find my copy of the report, but

when I get another I will post it. Still in the process of getting

organized myself.) Meanwhile, anyone interested in feeling more

emotionally stable- and improved memory and other mind symptoms, ask

me; I'll be glad to go into more detail. :-)

>

> Adrienne

>

>

[Guest guest]

Adrienne,

thanks for this concise review of your helpful treatments. I did not remember

reading this before, but it sounds like it has really worked for you.

Jill-----

[Guest guest]

Jill,

I am way more functional, but also very conscious that I am not well. I have

caregivers who help me with home, life and business, abt 30 hrs wk. I am

undergoing physical therapy in my home-VERY carefully- sometimes followed by

long nap, also followed by increased flexibility and strength. But the heaviness

persists.

I have to watch my immunity as I become more active. If I don't take enough C

and zinc, my lymph nodes start swelling, (prelude to sore throat, prelude to

fluishness, etc. Prelude to crash if I didn't know better by now?) Joint

problems diminshed but persist.

But it is so nice to have my mind back- and my senses, too; I forgot to say, the

other day I suddenly realized everything I saw was more brilliant and distinct.

The grey film over everything had lifted.

Adrienne

Re: theories, opinions, speculations

Adrienne,

thanks for this concise review of your helpful treatments. I did not remember

reading this before, but it sounds like it has really worked for you.

Jill-----