Re: Sources of glutathione in the UK

[Guest guest]

Hi Pam, yes we are in the same position too with low normal RBC

glutathione, but from what Rich has said I am not sure if we should be

trying to increase our glutathione or not as there MAY be something

wrong with our GST enzymes. So if we tried to up our glutathione

levels would that not pose a problem as we wouldn't be able to utilize

it properly?

Rich, if you have a spare minute (don't suppose you have many of

those! By the way the news about the autism/CFS work is brilliant),

could you please tell us what the situation is with this? Should we be

trying to increase our glutathuione levels or not?

BW,

Sheila

>

> Hi all

>

> Are we able to get hold of things like glutathione suppositories in

> the UK? I have read on the list about trying to build glutathione

> through using whey products but that it isn't going to work for some

> of us and I think I must be one of those. I can take loads of whey

> products without any adverse problems but there again no benefits

> either.

>

> When tested last year my rbc glutathione was in the normal range but

> by no means high and I am sure it would be beneficial to try and raise

> it through means other than whey products.

>

> Thanks

> Pam

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Pam,

I don't know about suppositories. But lipoceutical glutathione can

be obtained from Phytoscience Ltd. 01506 847 040. www.gshnow.com

I've been on it a while and think it is helping. One thing though -

it smells like rotten eggs.

Cheers,

Carol

>

> Hi all

>

> Are we able to get hold of things like glutathione suppositories

in

> the UK? I have read on the list about trying to build glutathione

> through using whey products but that it isn't going to work for

some

> of us and I think I must be one of those. I can take loads of

whey

> products without any adverse problems but there again no benefits

> either.

>

> When tested last year my rbc glutathione was in the normal range

but

> by no means high and I am sure it would be beneficial to try and

raise

> it through means other than whey products.

>

> Thanks

> Pam

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Pam,

>

> I don't know about suppositories. But lipoceutical glutathione can

> be obtained from Phytoscience Ltd. 01506 847 040. www.gshnow.com

>

> I've been on it a while and think it is helping. One thing though -

> it smells like rotten eggs.

>

> Cheers,

> Carol

>

Hi Carol

Many thanks for that, I will certainly give it a go. Did you start

off very slowly and then gradually increase? Be interested to know

the dosages you have taken.

I will also get a clothes peg handy!!

Best Wishes

Pam

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Pam, yes we are in the same position too with low normal RBC

> glutathione, but from what Rich has said I am not sure if we

should be

> trying to increase our glutathione or not as there MAY be something

> wrong with our GST enzymes. So if we tried to up our glutathione

> levels would that not pose a problem as we wouldn't be able to

utilize

> it properly?

>

> Rich, if you have a spare minute (don't suppose you have many of

> those! By the way the news about the autism/CFS work is brilliant),

> could you please tell us what the situation is with this? Should

we be

> trying to increase our glutathuione levels or not?

>

> BW,

>

> Sheila

Hi Sheila

I understand where you are coming from but watching and studying the

various videos taken from last year's DAN conference it has

convinced me that we need to raise it and if our methylation process

is impaired which I am almost positive mine has been, then we are

never going to get good levels of glutathione which is so important

to detoxification etc.

Have you looked into the methylation process? I have just started

TMG - it is contained in a supplement that Higher Nature do to lower

homocysteine and it should help with the methylation process and we

should then end up with more glutathione (at least I think that is

the science). The video by Jill mentioned Folinic Acid as

essential to helping the methylation cycle but I don't know if we

can get hold of that in the UK so I take around 800 of folic acid

instead together with sublingual B12 daily.

BW

Pam

[Guest guest]

Hi Pam,

I take 1 teaspoonful a day and that is what I started with. I've

heard of people taking more but it would be too expensive.

Cheers,

Carol

> >

> > Hi Pam,

> >

> > I don't know about suppositories. But lipoceutical glutathione

can

> > be obtained from Phytoscience Ltd. 01506 847 040. www.gshnow.com

> >

> > I've been on it a while and think it is helping. One thing

though -

> > it smells like rotten eggs.

> >

> > Cheers,

> > Carol

> >

> Hi Carol

>

> Many thanks for that, I will certainly give it a go. Did you

start

> off very slowly and then gradually increase? Be interested to

know

> the dosages you have taken.

>

> I will also get a clothes peg handy!!

>

> Best Wishes

>

> Pam

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, Sheila.

Yes, I think it would be a good idea to try to raise your

glutathione level. There won't be any problem in doing this if your

glutathione transferase enzymes have SNPs. It can only help.

Glutathione is able to act without the help of enzymes to some

degree, so raising it is a good thing to do.

Rich

>

> Hi Pam, yes we are in the same position too with low normal RBC

> glutathione, but from what Rich has said I am not sure if we

should be

> trying to increase our glutathione or not as there MAY be something

> wrong with our GST enzymes. So if we tried to up our glutathione

> levels would that not pose a problem as we wouldn't be able to

utilize

> it properly?

>

> Rich, if you have a spare minute (don't suppose you have many of

> those! By the way the news about the autism/CFS work is brilliant),

> could you please tell us what the situation is with this? Should

we be

> trying to increase our glutathuione levels or not?

>

> BW,

>

> Sheila

[Guest guest]

Many thanks for the reply Rich.

Do you know if there is a lab over here in the UK testing for SNP's ?

It would be so good to be able to find out what SNP's we are dealing

with...

Is there anything else you can take if you do have the glutathione

transferase SNP's?

With my thanks,

BW,

Sheila

> >

> > Hi Pam, yes we are in the same position too with low normal RBC

> > glutathione, but from what Rich has said I am not sure if we

> should be

> > trying to increase our glutathione or not as there MAY be something

> > wrong with our GST enzymes. So if we tried to up our glutathione

> > levels would that not pose a problem as we wouldn't be able to

> utilize

> > it properly?

> >

> > Rich, if you have a spare minute (don't suppose you have many of

> > those! By the way the news about the autism/CFS work is brilliant),

> > could you please tell us what the situation is with this? Should

> we be

> > trying to increase our glutathuione levels or not?

> >

> > BW,

> >

> > Sheila

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Pam, many thanks for your reply. Yes we have been looking into the

autism thing, got the book watched the videos but because we had the

normal levels of GSH we have n't been putting so much weight on

looking into that as we thought that meant our methylation cycle was

functioning OK but that seems to be wrong as Rich has said we should

be trying to increase GSH more so we will try that. Wish we could get

the SNP's test to see what we are dealing with.

We've been concentrating on getting our levels of supplements for

AT/mitos up first.

Also I am waiting for my DNA adducts test results, due soon.

By the way you can get folinic acid I think from theNutricentre in

London, Kirkman is the brand, and if not you can send off the the US

and get it direct from them. I think people can have problems with

converting folic acid to folinic acid so it is best to try to get the

folinic acid in case that is a problem.

BW,

Sheila

> >

> > Hi Pam, yes we are in the same position too with low normal RBC

> > glutathione, but from what Rich has said I am not sure if we

> should be

> > trying to increase our glutathione or not as there MAY be something

> > wrong with our GST enzymes. So if we tried to up our glutathione

> > levels would that not pose a problem as we wouldn't be able to

> utilize

> > it properly?

> >

> > Rich, if you have a spare minute (don't suppose you have many of

> > those! By the way the news about the autism/CFS work is brilliant),

> > could you please tell us what the situation is with this? Should

> we be

> > trying to increase our glutathuione levels or not?

> >

> > BW,

> >

> > Sheila

>

> Hi Sheila

>

> I understand where you are coming from but watching and studying the

> various videos taken from last year's DAN conference it has

> convinced me that we need to raise it and if our methylation process

> is impaired which I am almost positive mine has been, then we are

> never going to get good levels of glutathione which is so important

> to detoxification etc.

>

> Have you looked into the methylation process? I have just started

> TMG - it is contained in a supplement that Higher Nature do to lower

> homocysteine and it should help with the methylation process and we

> should then end up with more glutathione (at least I think that is

> the science). The video by Jill mentioned Folinic Acid as

> essential to helping the methylation cycle but I don't know if we

> can get hold of that in the UK so I take around 800 of folic acid

> instead together with sublingual B12 daily.

>

> BW

> Pam

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Pam/Rich/Sheila,

This all makes complete sense except that in my case, despite having

very dodgy ATP function test via Dr Myhill I have a very good

methylation ability assuming that homocysteine level is an appropriate

indicator. When that was measured (albeit in 2003) it was 5.9 - in the

'superhealthy' category.

Perhaps, that being the case I would derive even greater benefit from

GSH, as the mechanism is already in place?

Rosie

Hi Pam, many thanks for your reply. Yes we have been looking into the

autism thing, got the book watched the videos but because we had the

normal levels of GSH we have n't been putting so much weight on

looking into that as we thought that meant our methylation cycle was

functioning OK but that seems to be wrong as Rich has said we should

be trying to increase GSH more so we will try that. Wish we could get

the SNP's test to see what we are dealing with.

We've been concentrating on getting our levels of supplements for

AT/mitos up first.

Also I am waiting for my DNA adducts test results, due soon.

By the way you can get folinic acid I think from theNutricentre in

London, Kirkman is the brand, and if not you can send off the the US

and get it direct from them. I think people can have problems with

converting folic acid to folinic acid so it is best to try to get the

folinic acid in case that is a problem.

BW,

Sheila

> >

> > Hi Pam, yes we are in the same position too with low normal RBC

> > glutathione, but from what Rich has said I am not sure if we

> should be

> > trying to increase our glutathione or not as there MAY be something

> > wrong with our GST enzymes. So if we tried to up our glutathione

> > levels would that not pose a problem as we wouldn't be able to

> utilize

> > it properly?

> >

> > Rich, if you have a spare minute (don't suppose you have many of

> > those! By the way the news about the autism/CFS work is brilliant),

> > could you please tell us what the situation is with this? Should

> we be

> > trying to increase our glutathuione levels or not?

> >

> > BW,

> >

> > Sheila

>

> Hi Sheila

>

> I understand where you are coming from but watching and studying the

> various videos taken from last year's DAN conference it has

> convinced me that we need to raise it and if our methylation process

> is impaired which I am almost positive mine has been, then we are

> never going to get good levels of glutathione which is so important

> to detoxification etc.

>

> Have you looked into the methylation process? I have just started

> TMG - it is contained in a supplement that Higher Nature do to lower

> homocysteine and it should help with the methylation process and we

> should then end up with more glutathione (at least I think that is

> the science). The video by Jill mentioned Folinic Acid as

> essential to helping the methylation cycle but I don't know if we

> can get hold of that in the UK so I take around 800 of folic acid

> instead together with sublingual B12 daily.

>

> BW

> Pam

>

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