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Chia reported that 8/14 CFS patients did well on IFN but all relapsed after

treatment.

http://phoenix-cfs.org/Phoenix%20Rising%20Dec%2005.htm

I may be wrong but I believe interferon treatment is also fantastically

expensive (?)

Cort

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I read in the article I posted on Dr. Kerr that he plans to try

interferon on CFS patients. Dr. Chia has already used Interferon on

CFS patients, he said it worked for 15 months then his patient

relapsed again.

Why don't CFS researchers check to see the other research that has

already been done before they waste research money ?

Al

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Did you have white blood cell counts that were low or abnormal?

Maybe interferon works only for a subset, like PWCs w/ chronically

low WBC count, for example.

On another matter, regarding the other posts re this thread, would

it be possible to send the Chia info. to Dr. Kerr and get his

response. I would do it but there are many more knowledgable folks

on this list than me.

Mike C

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It mentions that interferon is used in Multiple Sclerosis, which is

actually beta-interferon. Chia used alpha and now I believe uses gamma

as well.

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> I read in the article I posted on Dr. Kerr that he plans to try

> interferon on CFS patients. Dr. Chia has already used Interferon on

> CFS patients, he said it worked for 15 months then his patient

> relapsed again.

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> Why don't CFS researchers check to see the other research that has

> already been done before they waste research money ?

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> Al

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Yup, when Dr Chia was talking about me trying interferon, he said I'd

be looking at $1500 to $2000 a month! Eeks!

Fortunately for my wallet, Dr Chia later said my symptoms were not

severe enough for his interferon protocol.

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fantastically expensive (?)

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> > I may be wrong but I believe interferon treatment is also

> fantastically expensive (?)

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There was a man that came to the CFIDS support group i used to go to

in NYC (that no longer exists) that said he was recently diagnosed

with CFIDS after having been treated with Interferon for almost a

year for Hep C. He said his Hep C titers were down but that he never

recovered from the exhaustion, even tho his Hep doc said that

he shouldnt still be so exhausted. So thats how he went to

my CFIDS doc and got diagnosed .

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It's quite well-established that interferon treatment can lead to many

of the symptoms we experience, so I've always been a little

apprehensive about the idea of getting it. Although I'm not sure if

any CFIDS sufferers have gotten worse on it.

Again - in case anyone missed this - it seems likely he's talking

about interferon-beta, not alpha, which is the type used in HCV

treatment.

Regarding expense - I think beta-interferon is also very expensive,

but I'd think that if Kerr is going to trial this for us, and it's

successful, it would become a subsidised medication (or however it

works in other countries).

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> There was a man that came to the CFIDS support group i used to go to

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> in NYC (that no longer exists) that said he was recently diagnosed

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> with CFIDS after having been treated with Interferon for almost a

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> year for Hep C. He said his Hep C titers were down but that he never

> recovered from the exhaustion, even tho his Hep doc said that

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> he shouldnt still be so exhausted. So thats how he went to

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> my CFIDS doc and got diagnosed .

> zuzu

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When I first discovered this group there was a woman here who claimed to be

cured form taking alpha interferon.

I can't recall her name.

I had two tests to check my levels.The first results showed slightly raised

interferon levels.The second test was ok.

What confuses me about taking interferon for CFS is that the side effects

can be flu like symptoms?Apparently it stimulates the immune system

but isn't that what's already going on with some of us?

I often feel like my body is pumping out interferon without an obvious

trigger.

Interferon treatment can also cause depression.As I understand it's not a

secondary depression but a side effect.

I have noticed when I'm in a flu like symptoms relapse(every other week),I

feel depressed.

I've questioned this many times and feel the depression is not entirely

secondary to my poor health.

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> I read in the article I posted on Dr. Kerr that he plans to try

> interferon on CFS patients. Dr. Chia has already used Interferon on

> CFS patients, he said it worked for 15 months then his patient

> relapsed again.

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> Why don't CFS researchers check to see the other research that has

> already been done before they waste research money ?

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> Al

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Dr Chia uses Interferons alpha and gamma. It was the combo of the

two that would add up to $1500-$2000.

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When I first discovered this group there was a woman here who claimed to be

cured form taking alpha interferon.

I can't recall her name.

That would be Clement, she's the one that started this list, to share

about her recovery from it. I've tried to track down whats happened to her and

how she is doing but can't seem to get any answers. I did hear tho from one

source that she was actually misdiagnosed in the first place and not CFS after

all. I don't really know what she had now.

What confuses me about taking interferon for CFS is that the side effects

can be flu like symptoms?Apparently it stimulates the immune system

but isn't that what's already going on with some of us?

I often feel like my body is pumping out interferon without an obvious

trigger.

Interferon treatment can also cause depression.As I understand it's not a

secondary depression but a side effect.

I have noticed when I'm in a flu like symptoms relapse(every other week),I

feel depressed.

I've questioned this many times and feel the depression is not entirely

secondary to my poor health.

How long have you been taking the interferon? I know some cfs patients 'are'

high in it already. When started this list and was so excited she had

found something that was such a miracle cure for her (it was low dose oral

interferon alpha, done in single doses from a compounding pharmacy in Texas,

came frozen I beleive and she would just squirt it in her mouth as I recall.)

she shared it here and a few others tried it and no one else had the same

response, a few had little response and most got worse, so she's the only one

that had the good response that was on this list.

Marcia

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hi years ago i tried interferon and it made me sicker than i had ever been

in less than two minutes but it also made another group of patients much

better and one of them used to be the moderator on this list .. forgot if

it was alpha or beta but sublinqual form and when years later retried with

the same result ..good luck tealk

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> Date: 5/2/2006 8:47:31 PM

> Subject: Re: Dr. Kerr & Interferon

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> Cat-

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> Did you have white blood cell counts that were low or abnormal?

> Maybe interferon works only for a subset, like PWCs w/ chronically

> low WBC count, for example.

>

> On another matter, regarding the other posts re this thread, would

> it be possible to send the Chia info. to Dr. Kerr and get his

> response. I would do it but there are many more knowledgable folks

> on this list than me.

>

> Mike C

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> > I tried interferon. It did nothing.

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> This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with

each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any

treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor.

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