Re: Dr. Cheney Connecticut interview - magesium paste

[Guest guest]

I really need magnesium. Pills don't seem to help much, only injections. But

I can only stand so many of those. Epsom Salts soaks also helps some, but not

enough.

I noticed in Dr. Cheney's lecture in Connecticut, he mentions a " Magnesium

Paste " . This sounds like a wonderful alternative to shots. Does anyone have

any further information about this - where to obtain, how much to take, etc?

-- in AZ

I don't know if anybody has posted this interview with Dr. Cheney which was

conducted by the Connecticut CFIDS

Association.

Du Pre

Website: http://www.angelfire.com/poetry/soareagle/index.html

" By words the mind is winged. " Aristophanes

SOURCE: The Connecticut CFIDS & FM Association, Inc.

NETWORK, Winter 2006 Issue

Dr. Cheney Performs Groundbreaking Research

By Lapuk

#1 Magnesium (non-oral) [sQ or Paste

#2 Klonopin 0.5 mg.

#3 Hydroxycobalamin (by injection) @ high dose

#4 Isoprinosine

#5 Kutapressin (aka Nexavir)

[Guest guest]

You can get it at www.kirkmanlabs.com

Kirkman's Magnesium Sulfate Cream

Package Size: 4 oz.

Topical Cream

4 oz.

$18.50

225/4 product number

It's great for spasm's, might get expensive as your only source of mag.

On Feb 17, 2006, at 4:37 PM, DesertGal wrote:

> I really need magnesium.   Pills don't seem to help much, only

> injections.   But I can only stand so many of those.    Epsom Salts

> soaks also helps some, but not enough.  

>

> I noticed in Dr. Cheney's lecture in Connecticut, he mentions a

> " Magnesium Paste " .   This sounds like a wonderful alternative to

> shots.   Does anyone have any further information about this - where

> to obtain, how much to take, etc?

>

> -- in AZ

>

>   I don't know if anybody has posted this interview with Dr. Cheney

> which was conducted by the Connecticut CFIDS

>   Association.

>   Du Pre

>   Website: http://www.angelfire.com/poetry/soareagle/index.html

>   " By words the mind is winged. "   Aristophanes

>

>

>   SOURCE: The Connecticut CFIDS & FM Association, Inc.

>

>   NETWORK, Winter 2006 Issue

>

>   Dr. Cheney Performs Groundbreaking Research

>

>   By Lapuk

>

>

>   #1 Magnesium (non-oral) [sQ or Paste

>

>   #2 Klonopin 0.5 mg.

>

>   #3 Hydroxycobalamin (by injection) @ high dose

>

>   #4 Isoprinosine

>

>   #5 Kutapressin (aka Nexavir)

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

It was interesting to see Cheney relying on the old favorites; magnesium,

klonopin, isoprinosine - nothing really new under the sun - not even growth

hormone.

Lucey <susan.lucey@...> wrote: You can get it at

www.kirkmanlabs.com

Kirkman's Magnesium Sulfate Cream

Package Size: 4 oz.

Topical Cream

4 oz.

$18.50

225/4 product number

It's great for spasm's, might get expensive as your only source of mag.

On Feb 17, 2006, at 4:37 PM, DesertGal wrote:

> I really need magnesium.  Pills don't seem to help much, only

> injections.  But I can only stand so many of those.   Epsom Salts

> soaks also helps some, but not enough. Â

>

> I noticed in Dr. Cheney's lecture in Connecticut, he mentions a

> " Magnesium Paste " .  This sounds like a wonderful alternative to

> shots.  Does anyone have any further information about this - where

> to obtain, how much to take, etc?

>

> -- in AZ

>

> Â I don't know if anybody has posted this interview with Dr. Cheney

> which was conducted by the Connecticut CFIDS

> Â Association.

> Â Du Pre

> Â Website: http://www.angelfire.com/poetry/soareagle/index.html

> Â " By words the mind is winged. " Â Aristophanes

>

>

> Â SOURCE: The Connecticut CFIDS & FM Association, Inc.

>

> Â NETWORK, Winter 2006 Issue

>

> Â Dr. Cheney Performs Groundbreaking Research

>

> Â By Lapuk

>

>

> Â #1 Magnesium (non-oral) [sQ or Paste

>

> Â #2 Klonopin 0.5 mg.

>

> Â #3 Hydroxycobalamin (by injection) @ high dose

>

> Â #4 Isoprinosine

>

> Â #5 Kutapressin (aka Nexavir)

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Ladies

My solution is to take small doses of Mg hydroxide orally several times a day

to correct the underlying imbalance that caused so much pain and other

problems for many years. Vitamin B6 is its co-factor.

I avoid needles.

Long soaking warm warm baths with 2 to 3 cups of Epsom salt (MgSO4) are also

very helpful. MgSO4 is what is usually in an IV infusion.

Hope this helps

mjh

In a message dated 2/18/06 5:28:02 AM Eastern Standard Time,

tensevern@... writes:

> DesertGal wrote:

> >I noticed in Dr. Cheney's lecture in Connecticut, he mentions a

> > " Magnesium Paste " . This sounds like a wonderful alternative to

> >shots. Does anyone have any further information about this - where to

> >obtain, how much to take, etc?

>

> I'm looking at alternatives to IM magnesium too. I've come across

> suggestions that Magic Oil is very good. I haven't tried it though.

> http://www.thewolfeclinic.com/magicoil.html

>

> Sue

>

[Guest guest]

DesertGal wrote:

> I noticed in Dr. Cheney's lecture in Connecticut, he mentions a

> " Magnesium Paste " . This sounds like a wonderful alternative to

> shots. Does anyone have any further information about this - where to

> obtain, how much to take, etc?

I'm looking at alternatives to IM magnesium too. I've come across

suggestions that Magic Oil is very good. I haven't tried it though.

http://www.thewolfeclinic.com/magicoil.html

Sue

[Guest guest]

Dear Katrina (in identity crisis)

Magic Lotion is a product of Jim what'shisname's Twilight America.

What bothers me about it is that not all ingredients are listed. I'm

sensitive to a lot of stuff, 'natural' or not. Peppermint for it's menthol would

be a

nice addition.

THe three primary herbs -- St 's Wort, Arnica and Lavendar -- are

wonderful and gentle healers. Arnica is not for internal use unless in its

homeopathic form.

I suspect the gel base is aloe vera, but not having had a product in hand,

that's just a guess.

Of to take a WARM rather than HOT bath in your honor.... will add a few drops

of Lavendar essential oil along with the Epsom salt. Hope you feel better

soon.

mjh - Mg fan

In a message dated 2/18/06 10:43:47 AM Eastern Standard Time,

kattemayo@... writes:

>

> I like the link Sue posted...Magic Lotion...I wonder if it really does all

> of those things?!

>

> I always like mjh's ideas.

> I'm limited on the warm baths, tho.

>

>

> Katrina,

> in identity crisis

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Before I knew about the Kirkman paste, I found " Dr. sHealy's Biogenics Magnesium

Lotion " . It is this cool,clear goopy gel that smells like lavender. It has MG

Chloride in it. It's soothing to heart and muscles. They also make another form

in a bottle w/o lavender smell.

Then, I ordered the Kirkmanlabs MG paste ( " Epsom Salts in a jar " ). It has MG

sulfate. It also calms heart and muscles right away. I think it's stronger than

sHEALy's, but I'm still experimenting.

I think Dr. Cheney is using it when he's actually testing patients on Echo...and

seeing results right there.

I also inject every day and take an oral form that Dr, Cheney started me

on... Labs, Magnesium Glycinate Forte. It has L-Carnitine, Taurine and

COq10.

But the paste/gels are pretty handy.

I like the link Sue posted...Magic Lotion...I wonder if it really does all of

those things?!

I always like mjh's ideas.

I'm limited on the warm baths, tho.

Katrina,

in identity crisis

>

> I really need magnesium. Pills don't seem to help much, only injections.

But I can only stand so many of those. Epsom Salts soaks also helps some, but

not enough.

>

> I noticed in Dr. Cheney's lecture in Connecticut, he mentions a " Magnesium

Paste " . This sounds like a wonderful alternative to shots. Does anyone have

any further information about this - where to obtain, how much to take, etc?

>

> -- in AZ

>

> I don't know if anybody has posted this interview with Dr. Cheney which was

conducted by the Connecticut CFIDS

> Association.

> Du Pre

> Website: http://www.angelfire.com/poetry/soareagle/index.html

> " By words the mind is winged. " Aristophanes

>

>

> SOURCE: The Connecticut CFIDS & FM Association, Inc.

>

> NETWORK, Winter 2006 Issue

>

> Dr. Cheney Performs Groundbreaking Research

>

> By Lapuk

>

>

> #1 Magnesium (non-oral) [sQ or Paste

>

> #2 Klonopin 0.5 mg.

>

> #3 Hydroxycobalamin (by injection) @ high dose

>

> #4 Isoprinosine

>

> #5 Kutapressin (aka Nexavir)

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Katrina - Would it work to dissolve Epsom salts in just enough water to make a

paste, and then smear it on your sore spots, instead of having to order

Kirkmans's? (and do I understand you to say that you think Dr C is using the

Kirkmans paste while testing patients on the Echo, instead of the 'under the

tongue' mag spray that I had heard he was using while testing patients?) thank

you, les

Re: Dr. Cheney Connecticut interview - magesium

paste

Hi ,

Before I knew about the Kirkman paste, I found " Dr. sHealy's Biogenics

Magnesium Lotion " . It is this cool,clear goopy gel that smells like lavender. It

has MG Chloride in it. It's soothing to heart and muscles. They also make

another form in a bottle w/o lavender smell.

Then, I ordered the Kirkmanlabs MG paste ( " Epsom Salts in a jar " ). It has MG

sulfate. It also calms heart and muscles right away. I think it's stronger than

sHEALy's, but I'm still experimenting.

I think Dr. Cheney is using it when he's actually testing patients on

Echo...and seeing results right there.

I also inject every day and take an oral form that Dr, Cheney started me

on... Labs, Magnesium Glycinate Forte. It has L-Carnitine, Taurine and

COq10.

But the paste/gels are pretty handy.

I like the link Sue posted...Magic Lotion...I wonder if it really does all of

those things?!

I always like mjh's ideas.

I'm limited on the warm baths, tho.

Katrina,

in identity crisis

>

> I really need magnesium. Pills don't seem to help much, only injections.

But I can only stand so many of those. Epsom Salts soaks also helps some, but

not enough.

>

> I noticed in Dr. Cheney's lecture in Connecticut, he mentions a " Magnesium

Paste " . This sounds like a wonderful alternative to shots. Does anyone have

any further information about this - where to obtain, how much to take, etc?

>

> -- in AZ

>

> I don't know if anybody has posted this interview with Dr. Cheney which

was conducted by the Connecticut CFIDS

> Association.

> Du Pre

> Website: http://www.angelfire.com/poetry/soareagle/index.html

> " By words the mind is winged. " Aristophanes

>

>

> SOURCE: The Connecticut CFIDS & FM Association, Inc.

>

> NETWORK, Winter 2006 Issue

>

> Dr. Cheney Performs Groundbreaking Research

>

> By Lapuk

>

>

> #1 Magnesium (non-oral) [sQ or Paste

>

> #2 Klonopin 0.5 mg.

>

> #3 Hydroxycobalamin (by injection) @ high dose

>

> #4 Isoprinosine

>

> #5 Kutapressin (aka Nexavir)

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

It sure sounds like it would work, but I don't know, have not tried it or heard.

About the paste/echo...I did mean that, but not instead of the spray. (in

addtion?). I just heard about the paste first...but don't listen to me on this

part...it's been awhile since I was told about it...memory not great.

Katrina

> >

> > I really need magnesium. Pills don't seem to help much, only injections.

But I can only stand so many of those. Epsom Salts soaks also helps some, but

not enough.

> >

> > I noticed in Dr. Cheney's lecture in Connecticut, he mentions a " Magnesium

Paste " . This sounds like a wonderful alternative to shots. Does anyone have

any further information about this - where to obtain, how much to take, etc?

> >

> > -- in AZ

> >

> > I don't know if anybody has posted this interview with Dr. Cheney which

was conducted by the Connecticut CFIDS

> > Association.

> > Du Pre

> > Website: http://www.angelfire.com/poetry/soareagle/index.html

> > " By words the mind is winged. " Aristophanes

> >

> >

> > SOURCE: The Connecticut CFIDS & FM Association, Inc.

> >

> > NETWORK, Winter 2006 Issue

> >

> > Dr. Cheney Performs Groundbreaking Research

> >

> > By Lapuk

> >

> >

> > #1 Magnesium (non-oral) [sQ or Paste

> >

> > #2 Klonopin 0.5 mg.

> >

> > #3 Hydroxycobalamin (by injection) @ high dose

> >

> > #4 Isoprinosine

> >

> > #5 Kutapressin (aka Nexavir)

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >