magnesium taurate, magesium taurinate

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I've delayed posting this report from a " virtual " conference because

it's long, but there has been a lot of discussion of magnesium here in

the last couple of months, so...

My impression is that if you supplement with magnesium taurinate, you

would need less because it's well absorbed. Or at least a person named

Jackie, below, says it's well absorbed. I see that supplement catalogs

sell magesium taurinate and magesium taurate. I haven't yet tried to

find out what the difference is. I think a said she uses taurate?

a, what was your reason for your choice?

Sue

Upstate, New York

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- I'm glad you lowered your dose of magnesium.... but are you

sure you are/were really taking 2500 mg....of

elemental magnesium

Most people can't tolerate much more than 800 - 1000 mg. of elemental

magnesium without experiencing bowel

intolerance.

It could be the form you were taking..... magnesium oxide is very

poorly absorbed so it might be possible to reach the

numbers you mention.

I'm not suggesting anyone take magnesium if it gives them more PAC's

but most of us find magnesium very calming to

the heart .... magnesium glycinate is specifically complexed to

eliminate bowel intolerance yet provide the benefits of

magnesium due to its bioavailability.

Some of us are now using another complexed form - magnesium taurate

which can be taken at even lower doses...

's post on the other minerals is very important..... we need the

balance of the electrolytes involved in cardiac

tissue function, although most afibbers do not do well with added

calcium. Peggy, however, is reporting good results

which points out once again, the biochemical individuality of us all.

We are all at various stages of age, nutritional

deficit, stress levels and a plethora of other influences that will

change how these minerals work for us individually.

It is good to keep experimenting to find the balance that works for

you, personally, by using the others' experience

merely as a guideline.

It is also my experience that most doctors (unless holistic) will not

recognize the benefit of any supplements such as

minerals for heart function so it doesn't surprise me, the comments

you're relayed here.

Magnesium overload will result in depression, lethargy, and other

complications and is considered rare just because

when we take too much, the body throws of the excess by producing

diarrhea.... and everyone can recognize that

symptom, and back off on their dosage.

If you aren't sure about the elemental magnesium portion.... here's a

repeat of an old post I recently brought forward

again....

Author: Theo (---.w81-249.abo.wanadoo.fr)

Date: 11-01-03 23:59

Magnesium oxide 1000 mg (1 g) = 550 mg elemental magnesium

Magnesium citrate 1000 mg = 100 mg elemental mg

Magnesium aspartate 1000 mg = 80.44mg elemental mg

Magnesium glycinate 1000 mg = 110.70mg elemental mg

Magnesium taurinate 1000 mg = 150 mg elemental mg

Magnesium arginate 1000 mg = 60 mg elemental mg

Jackie

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Hi Kay,

Welcome! Magnesium has caused a few to have increased PACs and other

ectopics, but most, like myself have found

the opposite to be true.

You mentioned that your magnesium is in oxide and gluconate form.

Usually, when there are two forms of magnesium

(or any element) in the supplement, the first compound mentioned on the

label is the one that makes up, by far, the

largest percentage of that supplement. Magnesium oxide is almost

useless because it is not at all absorbable.

Magnesium glycinate or magnesium taurate are the most absorbable forms

and also don't cause loose bowels, if

you've experienced that problem at all.

Lorraine

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Lynn,

As you suggested, there appears to be a " glycine site " on the NMDA

receptor that is a glutamate co-agonist (as

opposed to antagonist). Furthermore, it appears that glycine can

diffuse across the blood brain barrier.

http://www.ibogaine.org/lit-nmda.html

Since

1) neurons in the brainstem that control vagal tone have NMDA receptors

that require the neurotransmitter glutamate

2) vagal tone is directly related to PACs and AF.

This would certainly explain why magnesium glycinate (but not magnesium

taurate) might be problematic.

This would be another reason (in addition to that forwarded by Jackie

in her BB post on taurine) for preferring the

taurate form over the glycinate form. Perhaps those that had adverse

reactions with Mg using the glycinate chelate might revisit Mg

supplementation.

PC

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I take Natural Calm which is an elemental form of Magnesium citrate.

It is powder which allows me to regulate the dosage ( when I take too

much I get loose stools so then I back off to previous dosage) to MY

body's needs. I have read what you say about Mag Taurate and glycinate

not causing loose stools and wonder if I should change or if this

method of determining one's specific mag needs is more beneficial. Any

thoughts?