Re: best states to live in for CFS & FM

[Guest guest]

Do you mean which state has the lowest incidence or where do we feel

the best?

Personally I feel the best in the desert. I lived in SC and traveled

to Florida and Hawaii during the time I was extremely sick. I felt

awful in the sun and humidity. I always responded to the sun much like

a lupus patient would. But here in the desert it is not such a problem.

I am feeling better now though than I have felt since I became sick

ten years ago. This was not the case when I was in the hot humid

climates.

a

>

> What are the best States to live in if you have CFS & FM. I heard

Hawaii is

> the best place, any truth behind that?

> Thanks

> Sue from MI

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Sue,

I don't know about the best ones, but the doctor at the FFC (fibro and

fatigue center) seminar I went to last month said Washington state is one

of the worst!

Sedanman

>

> What are the best States to live in if you have CFS & FM. I heard

Hawaii is

> the best place, any truth behind that?

> Thanks

> Sue from MI

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Sara. In defense of the Seattle area, it rains a whole lot more in BC than

it does down

here (and also the same for Oregon -- rains more down there too). In fact, when

we do

have dry weather (which is often during the last 4-5 years -- global warming?)

it's because

the wet weather has been pushed up north or down south.

In general, unless you're up in the woods, especially in the Olympic Rainforest,

the

humidity is suprisingly low, so we don't have many bugs like mosquitoes, at

least not in-

city. I'm aware that lyme and other things can be transmitted in other ways,

but just

putting in my two cents as a lifelong native of the Emerald City.

That being said, I've always wished I could move to California...!

d.

>

> > Hi Sue,

> >

> > I don't know about the best ones, but the doctor at the FFC (fibro and

> > fatigue center) seminar I went to last month said Washington state

> > is one

> > of the worst!

>

> Aw, c'mon. It's just wet, cold, moldy, overgrown with pollen-rich

> plants, and grey from October to April.

>

> Nope. Nothing here in the Pacific Northwest that should pose any

> problems to an ME patient at all....

>

> (not!)

>

> Sara

> who left sunny California for Vancouver, BC

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'm moving after this summer. I found a sweet free website,

city-data.com, which has abundant data on weather, rents, home

prices etc for every town in the US.

Weather sensitivity in inflammatory diagnoses like RA, fibro, etc,

has been the subject of some 20+ studies. Many found no effect and

some found a small one. I didnt look at them that carefully but I am

not sure how many of them used subjects that self-identified as

weather-sensitive, tho I think some did.

In spite of these rather weak findings, I am 100% convinced that my

own weather-sensitivity is quite stark.

Another study put people with RA, etc in a special room with

controlled barometric pressure, temp, humidity, etc. They would live

in it for weeks. The subjects lacked their normal sensitivty to wet

weather while in the controlled room. However, this study did not

control for the power of suggestion.

I have heard of a number of people moving somewhere to ease their

CFS and it often doesnt work. But it sometimes does. I studied this

2 months ago and collected some anecdotes here re a move helping CFS

(or not), and also a few positive and negative anecdotes in the

literature, some involving MS, RA etc. Based on such info, for me

moving to New Mexico or southern Cali seems worth a try for me,

because of my very clear weather sensitivty. I am sick just about

every single time it rains here in Virginia. In fine weather I am

now nearly well, having had good luck with my long-term heavy

antimicrobial treatments, which I started over a year ago when my

disease was disablingly severe.

One factor in this for me is that I have always wanted to move west

anyway.

If I werent weather-sensitive, I'm not sure I would just up and move

somewhere, considering the unevenness of the results Ive read

about... it might be better to experiment with a long visit if

possible, first. But it may be worth exploring for some people,

would be my best guess, based on my anecdote-chasing.

[Guest guest]

Damn " convergence zone " ! Have you thought about living in Sequim, aka

the " banana belt " ?

>

> Hi Sara. In defense of the Seattle area, it rains a whole lot more in BC

than it does down

> here (and also the same for Oregon -- rains more down there too). In

fact, when we do

> have dry weather (which is often during the last 4-5 years -- global

warming?) it's because

> the wet weather has been pushed up north or down south.

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

We LOVE Las Vegas. My good ole boy husband has turned into a real

cowboy. He has picked up some Yankee traits too, like make absurd

jokes while waiting in grocery lines. I can't remember the last time

he wore a tie, but he still doesn't wear a baseball cap to church.

We like the climate a lot. You just have to stay out of the culverts

when it rains.

I know of several families who have moved to New Mexico or Arizona TO

ESCAPE TICKS. They say they will never again expose their children to

multiple tick bites. I get the creeps when I visit back east.

a

>

> I'm moving after this summer. I found a sweet free website,

> city-data.com, which has abundant data on weather, rents, home

> prices etc for every town in the US.

>

> Weather sensitivity in inflammatory diagnoses like RA, fibro, etc,

> has been the subject of some 20+ studies. Many found no effect and

> some found a small one. I didnt look at them that carefully but I

am

> not sure how many of them used subjects that self-identified as

> weather-sensitive, tho I think some did.

>

> In spite of these rather weak findings, I am 100% convinced that my

> own weather-sensitivity is quite stark.

>

> Another study put people with RA, etc in a special room with

> controlled barometric pressure, temp, humidity, etc. They would

live

> in it for weeks. The subjects lacked their normal sensitivty to wet

> weather while in the controlled room. However, this study did not

> control for the power of suggestion.

>

> I have heard of a number of people moving somewhere to ease their

> CFS and it often doesnt work. But it sometimes does. I studied this

> 2 months ago and collected some anecdotes here re a move helping

CFS

> (or not), and also a few positive and negative anecdotes in the

> literature, some involving MS, RA etc. Based on such info, for me

> moving to New Mexico or southern Cali seems worth a try for me,

> because of my very clear weather sensitivty. I am sick just about

> every single time it rains here in Virginia. In fine weather I am

> now nearly well, having had good luck with my long-term heavy

> antimicrobial treatments, which I started over a year ago when my

> disease was disablingly severe.

>

> One factor in this for me is that I have always wanted to move west

> anyway.

>

> If I werent weather-sensitive, I'm not sure I would just up and

move

> somewhere, considering the unevenness of the results Ive read

> about... it might be better to experiment with a long visit if

> possible, first. But it may be worth exploring for some people,

> would be my best guess, based on my anecdote-chasing.

>

[Guest guest]

>

> ,

> We LOVE Las Vegas.

a, as you know I lived in the west texas desert for several

months and it is not bad during spring-fall but come winter, the wind

blows very hard and since there is little to no rain in the winter,

the wind is full of dust plus it did get down to 10 degrees for three

straight nights! I have heard Phoenix is too polluted but Tucson and

around it is good. It is not that windy and I think a little warmer

than Las Vegas. since I am thinking of relocating, and others may be

interested, Can you tell me how Vegas compares to S. AZ or CA? I also

read that the increased population in Vegas is really putting a

sqeeze on water.

There is an Indian casino about a mile from here. I use to go just

for fun but during a two-week period when I was here in a tent, I got

addicted to gambling and lost $6k, all put on a credit card!! I have

not been there since I returned here five weeks ago and I seem okay

as long as I do not enter into their door. I am not sure Vegas would

be great for an addict...lol. Paying off that debt will probably take

several years yet it only took two weeks to obtain the debt. I read

afterwards that gambling and depression do not mix.

Bob

[Guest guest]

Have you considered places with low electrosmog. There are a lot of

people who are enviromentally sensitive living in SnowFlake, Arizona.

>

> I'm moving after this summer. I found a sweet free website,

> city-data.com, which has abundant data on weather, rents, home

> prices etc for every town in the US.

>

> Weather sensitivity in inflammatory diagnoses like RA, fibro, etc,

> has been the subject of some 20+ studies. Many found no effect and

> some found a small one. I didnt look at them that carefully but I

am

> not sure how many of them used subjects that self-identified as

> weather-sensitive, tho I think some did.

>

> In spite of these rather weak findings, I am 100% convinced that my

> own weather-sensitivity is quite stark.

>

> Another study put people with RA, etc in a special room with

> controlled barometric pressure, temp, humidity, etc. They would

live

> in it for weeks. The subjects lacked their normal sensitivty to wet

> weather while in the controlled room. However, this study did not

> control for the power of suggestion.

>

> I have heard of a number of people moving somewhere to ease their

> CFS and it often doesnt work. But it sometimes does. I studied this

> 2 months ago and collected some anecdotes here re a move helping

CFS

> (or not), and also a few positive and negative anecdotes in the

> literature, some involving MS, RA etc. Based on such info, for me

> moving to New Mexico or southern Cali seems worth a try for me,

> because of my very clear weather sensitivty. I am sick just about

> every single time it rains here in Virginia. In fine weather I am

> now nearly well, having had good luck with my long-term heavy

> antimicrobial treatments, which I started over a year ago when my

> disease was disablingly severe.

>

> One factor in this for me is that I have always wanted to move west

> anyway.

>

> If I werent weather-sensitive, I'm not sure I would just up and

move

> somewhere, considering the unevenness of the results Ive read

> about... it might be better to experiment with a long visit if

> possible, first. But it may be worth exploring for some people,

> would be my best guess, based on my anecdote-chasing.

>

[Guest guest]

> > Another study put people with RA, etc in a special room with

controlled barometric pressure, temp, humidity, etc. They would live

in it for weeks. The subjects lacked their normal sensitivty to wet

weather while in the controlled room. However, this study did not

control for the power of suggestion.<

I reckon it didn't control for mold spore plumes either - which are

unleashed by weather change.

Maybe we can use the power of suggestion to suggest reading Mold

Warriors - so they can find out why living in a controlled environment

might filter out their response to wet weather.

-

[Guest guest]

Bob,we looked at Santa Fe, Albuquerque and Tucson before deciding on

Las Vegas. Santa Fe is absurdly expensive - kind of like most of

southern Cal.

We wanted to live in Santa Barbara. Both of us are history people, so

we thought about living in a cave there and putting on Chumash Indian

demonstrations. My husband is part Lumbee or Catawba or something -

an Indian in the woodpile. Of course this is all a joke except that

he really is part American Indian as are a large percentage of

residents of South Carolina.

There is a lot of dust here and high winds. Many people have trouble

with allergies. I don't. I do use a CPAP machine which pretty much

filters all the dust out for 8 hours at night - an amazing fix for

allergies.

Most people are switching to zeriscape or desert landscaping, thus

saving a lot of water. Water is not a problem for now and it is

cheaper than we paid in South Carolina.

Winter temp is a low of 30 and summer highs can be 115. I actually

never mind the highs as it is so dry. We have no mold in our house,

but there are many public buildings with mold problems. This is

probably because it rains so rarely that constuction is sloppy -

roofs are not well made and they leak. I have seen this in Santa Fe

as well.

The real problem in moving here now is that property values have

about doubled in the four years since we moved here. Apartments are

being converted to condos as there is so much money to be made.

You might want to look into Mesquite up the I 15 and at the Utah

border. Another place is Pahrump. BUT ALL OF THESE HAVE HUGE CASSINOS.

I am thinking that Prescott, AZ would be a nice place without

cassinos. There are still reasonable places to live just outside of

Prescott.

I find gambling boring and have a joke about it. You will not see any

good looking women gambling because they have more interesting things

to do. Anyway, that is my story and I'm stickin' to it.

Maybe get a cave in Santa Barbara,but I expect a kickback on any

profit you make!!!!

a

>

> a, as you know I lived in the west texas desert for several

> months and it is not bad during spring-fall but come winter, the

wind

> blows very hard and since there is little to no rain in the winter,

> the wind is full of dust plus it did get down to 10 degrees for

three

> straight nights! I have heard Phoenix is too polluted but Tucson

and

> around it is good. It is not that windy and I think a little warmer

> than Las Vegas. since I am thinking of relocating, and others may

be

> interested, Can you tell me how Vegas compares to S. AZ or CA? I

also

> read that the increased population in Vegas is really putting a

> sqeeze on water.

>

> There is an Indian casino about a mile from here. I use to go just

> for fun but during a two-week period when I was here in a tent, I

got

> addicted to gambling and lost $6k, all put on a credit card!! I

have

> not been there since I returned here five weeks ago and I seem okay

> as long as I do not enter into their door. I am not sure Vegas

would

> be great for an addict...lol. Paying off that debt will probably

take

> several years yet it only took two weeks to obtain the debt. I read

> afterwards that gambling and depression do not mix.

>

> Bob

>

[Guest guest]

If I go looking for a place to live, I will check out those you

mentioned. One thing about living near Vegas is there are always

cheap flights coming back home. I enjoy your since of humor.

Bob

>

> Bob,we looked at Santa Fe, Albuquerque and Tucson before deciding

on

> Las Vegas. Santa Fe is absurdly expensive - kind of like most of

> southern Cal.

>

> We wanted to live in Santa Barbara. Both of us are history people,

so

> we thought about living in a cave there and putting on Chumash

Indian

> demonstrations. My husband is part Lumbee or Catawba or something -

> an Indian in the woodpile. Of course this is all a joke except that

> he really is part American Indian as are a large percentage of

> residents of South Carolina.

>

> There is a lot of dust here and high winds. Many people have

trouble

> with allergies. I don't. I do use a CPAP machine which pretty much

> filters all the dust out for 8 hours at night - an amazing fix for

> allergies.

>

> Most people are switching to zeriscape or desert landscaping, thus

> saving a lot of water. Water is not a problem for now and it is

> cheaper than we paid in South Carolina.

>

> Winter temp is a low of 30 and summer highs can be 115. I actually

> never mind the highs as it is so dry. We have no mold in our house,

> but there are many public buildings with mold problems. This is

> probably because it rains so rarely that constuction is sloppy -

> roofs are not well made and they leak. I have seen this in Santa Fe

> as well.

>

> The real problem in moving here now is that property values have

> about doubled in the four years since we moved here. Apartments are

> being converted to condos as there is so much money to be made.

>

> You might want to look into Mesquite up the I 15 and at the Utah

> border. Another place is Pahrump. BUT ALL OF THESE HAVE HUGE

CASSINOS.

> I am thinking that Prescott, AZ would be a nice place without

> cassinos. There are still reasonable places to live just outside of

> Prescott.

>

> I find gambling boring and have a joke about it. You will not see

any

> good looking women gambling because they have more interesting

things

> to do. Anyway, that is my story and I'm stickin' to it.

>

> Maybe get a cave in Santa Barbara,but I expect a kickback on any

> profit you make!!!!

>

> a

>

> >

> > a, as you know I lived in the west texas desert for several

> > months and it is not bad during spring-fall but come winter, the

> wind

> > blows very hard and since there is little to no rain in the

winter,

> > the wind is full of dust plus it did get down to 10 degrees for

> three

> > straight nights! I have heard Phoenix is too polluted but Tucson

> and

> > around it is good. It is not that windy and I think a little

warmer

> > than Las Vegas. since I am thinking of relocating, and others may

> be

> > interested, Can you tell me how Vegas compares to S. AZ or CA? I

> also

> > read that the increased population in Vegas is really putting a

> > sqeeze on water.

> >

> > There is an Indian casino about a mile from here. I use to go

just

> > for fun but during a two-week period when I was here in a tent, I

> got

> > addicted to gambling and lost $6k, all put on a credit card!! I

> have

> > not been there since I returned here five weeks ago and I seem

okay

> > as long as I do not enter into their door. I am not sure Vegas

> would

> > be great for an addict...lol. Paying off that debt will probably

> take

> > several years yet it only took two weeks to obtain the debt. I

read

> > afterwards that gambling and depression do not mix.

> >

> > Bob

> >

>