Guest guest Posted November 15, 2002 Report Share Posted November 15, 2002 Hi, Ok, I am going to scream!! I just got back yet ANOTHER positive EBV and sackie B's test results!! Even after I am taking tons of Lysine, Monolaurin, Wobenzym N, and Vitamin A. I mean what else can I do to get these test scores to go down to normal?? I know it means that there is most likely something else going on in my system to make these stay high but still you'd think they would go down some. Any suggestions, this is miserable. Thank you, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2002 Report Share Posted November 15, 2002 , What exactly were your test results? Values for IgM, IgG etc... and how long were you on these products? -Jan > Hi, > > Ok, I am going to scream!! I just got back yet ANOTHER positive EBV and > sackie B's test results!! Even after I am taking tons of Lysine, > Monolaurin, Wobenzym N, and Vitamin A. I mean what else can I do to get > these test scores to go down to normal?? I know it means that there is most > likely something else going on in my system to make these stay high but still > you'd think they would go down some. Any suggestions, this is miserable. > Thank you, > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2002 Report Share Posted November 15, 2002 , I wonder if your immune system is getting the other nutrients it needs to do its job. How is your glutathione level? If it's low, undenatured whey protein might help. How about vitamins C and E, magnesium, zinc, selenium, and iron? How about the essential fatty acids? How about high quality animal-based protein in your diet? Have you considered taking ProBoost thymic protein A to support production of T cells? All of these could help to give your immune system a boost. Rich > Hi, > > Ok, I am going to scream!! I just got back yet ANOTHER positive EBV and > sackie B's test results!! Even after I am taking tons of Lysine, > Monolaurin, Wobenzym N, and Vitamin A. I mean what else can I do to get > these test scores to go down to normal?? I know it means that there is most > likely something else going on in my system to make these stay high but still > you'd think they would go down some. Any suggestions, this is miserable. > Thank you, > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2002 Report Share Posted November 16, 2002 karen when you say you're taking monolaurin, do you mean lauricidin? if not, i have read that people have had luck with this form on monolaurin. check out: www.lauricidin.com i don't think this works against coxsackie viruses. also you might want to post your question over at the stealth viurs board. i think a lot of people over there use this product. TheStealthVirusSupportGroup/ thanks bill > In a message dated 11/15/02 7:43:10 PM Pacific Standard Time, > richvank@a... writes: > > > > , > > > > I wonder if your immune system is getting the other nutrients it > > needs to do its job. How is your glutathione level? If it's low, > > undenatured whey protein might help. How about vitamins C and E, > > magnesium, zinc, selenium, and iron? How about the essential fatty > > acids? How about high quality animal-based protein in your diet? > > Have you considered taking ProBoost thymic protein A to support > > production of T cells? All of these could help to give your immune > > system a boost. > > > > Rich > > > Rich, I take everything you mentioned except the thymic a, instead I take > Natcell Thymus glandulars and it's still high. So frustrating..I don't know > what else to do. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2002 Report Share Posted November 16, 2002 , Another thing to consider might be hormonal interactions with the immune system. I'm wondering if your DHEA-S level is high enough. Low estrogen can also suppress the immune system. Rich > In a message dated 11/15/02 7:43:10 PM Pacific Standard Time, > richvank@a... writes: > > > > , > > > > I wonder if your immune system is getting the other nutrients it > > needs to do its job. How is your glutathione level? If it's low, > > undenatured whey protein might help. How about vitamins C and E, > > magnesium, zinc, selenium, and iron? How about the essential fatty > > acids? How about high quality animal-based protein in your diet? > > Have you considered taking ProBoost thymic protein A to support > > production of T cells? All of these could help to give your immune > > system a boost. > > > > Rich > > > Rich, I take everything you mentioned except the thymic a, instead I take > Natcell Thymus glandulars and it's still high. So frustrating..I don't know > what else to do. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2002 Report Share Posted November 19, 2002 , I stand corrected. You're right about the cellular immune response (Th1), which is the important one for viruses. It's the antibodies (important for Th2) that are possibly stimulated by estrogen. Here's a quotation from Basic and Clinical Endocrinology, 5th edition, by Greenspan and Strewler, 1997, p. 23: " The sex steroids affect the immune response generally in a suppressive way. Castration in animals can result in enlargement of lymph nodes and spleen, more severe graft-versus-host disease, increased skin graft rejection, and stimulation of in vitro T lymphocyte mitogen responsiveness. These effects are mainly on cellular immune responses; effects on humoral responses are less clear. Estrogens may stimulate antibody production, and females tend to have higher levels of the major immunoglobulin classes under both basal and stimulated conditions than males. These differences (sometimes referred to as sexual dimorphisms) are not observed before puberty. " Pregnancy, with its associated changes in a number of hormones, commonly results in amelioration of autoimmune diseases. The mechanisms for these changes are not known. It is noteworthy that the peptide hormone whose concentrations are the highest reported to date for any hormone is chorionic somatomammotropin (CS), which has weak growth hormone and prolactin activities. Could this hormone have some immunoregulatory roles? Pregnancy tends to suppress the cellular but not the humoral immune responses, and this may contribute to prevention of maternal rejection of fetal tissues. Susceptibility to a number of viral and fungal diseases is increased in pregnancy. This immunosuppression is most pronounced in the second and third trimesters of pregnancy. By about 3-6 months postpartum, there is a rebound, with a reduction of sex steroid levels and an increase in the incidence of autoimmune diseases. " Rich > In a message dated 11/16/02 8:58:59 AM Pacific Standard Time, > richvank@a... writes: > > > > Another thing to consider might be hormonal interactions with the > > immune system. I'm wondering if your DHEA-S level is high enough. > > Low estrogen can also suppress the immune system. > > > > Rich > > > Thank you Rich I will have my Dhea-s levels checked. I thought high estrogen > suppressed the immune system? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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