Guest guest Posted January 11, 2000 Report Share Posted January 11, 2000 In a message dated 1/11/00 2:59:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, lindag@... writes: << Let's take a look at some of the information we have been given here. >> Let's not since the iformation you presented was piecemeal. I said I " personally " knew 4 that committted suicide. There have been more. Check the Memrorial List at ncf-net.org Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2000 Report Share Posted January 11, 2000 why not just wait for the results of the double blinded tials steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2000 Report Share Posted January 11, 2000 In a message dated 1/11/00 5:39:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, lindag@... writes: << Anyway, wouldn't an article named " Ampligen Report Exposed: Patients Duped " include ALL KNOWN Ampligen-related suicides? >> No, the article depends on the author. At the time it was written, I already personally knew of a man, a patient of Dr. Klimas', who had traveled to France and was living there with other Americans to get Ampligen in Belgium. He committed suicide over there after only getting worse. His roomate also did very poorly but has decided to remain living in France. He is worse since his Ampligen experience. A third American male PWC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2000 Report Share Posted January 11, 2000 In a message dated 1/11/00 5:39:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, lindag@... writes: << >> Sorry.... interupted by a cat in mid-sentence....but the other male is also still sick after Ampligen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2000 Report Share Posted January 11, 2000 > From: GAILRONDA@... > > I said I " personally " knew 4 that committted suicide. Nope. Reread the source of my information at the bottom of my original post (repeated below). You said nothing about " personally " knowing them. Three were found during an investigation for the CFIDS Chronicle plus one more.: >> Gail in the Fall, 1999 National Forum article entitled, " Ampligen Report Exposed: Patients Duped " : " During an investigation done for The CFIDS Chronicle (for an article they refused, ultimately to publish) there were three suicides attributed to the horrendous adverse reactions of Ampligen. The National CFIDS Foundation has located a fourth one... " >> >There have been more. Check the Memrorial List at ncf-net.org > Gail Nope again. Your Memorial List is a list of ALL known CFS patients that have died, from ALL types of causes. Ampligen is mentioned in connection with only two of them, and in one of these it just says that she had been an early Ampligen patient. Even if you count both of these women, two is NOT MORE than 4! Anyway, wouldn't an article named " Ampligen Report Exposed: Patients Duped " include ALL KNOWN Ampligen-related suicides? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2000 Report Share Posted January 11, 2000 " Dr. Steve " <moores@...> wrote: > > why not just wait for the results of the double blinded tials Sounds about right to me. The patient community has waited a very long time for Ampligen Phase III clinical trials. Now that we have them (and they do appear to have been properly designed), it's important to get them completed and analyzed - and the results published. Ray Colliton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2000 Report Share Posted January 11, 2000 I am in 110% agreement with you here!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: " Ray Colliton " <colliton@...> > The patient community has waited a very long time for Ampligen Phase III > clinical trials. Now that we have them (and they do appear to have been > properly designed), it's important to get them completed and analyzed - and the > results published. > > Ray Colliton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2000 Report Share Posted January 16, 2000 Sounds like a plan to me. We really cannot do anything else. Christie >From: " Dr. Steve " <moores@...> > >why not just wait for the results of the double blinded tials > >steve > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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