Palm Oil

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In a message dated 1/7/00 8:21:52 AM Pacific Standard Time,

onelist writes:

,

The only place I've found locally for Palm Oil is Zenith Supply in Seattle.

They're just north of the U district on Roosevelt and about 55th. They have

lots of other soap supplies, EOs FOs clay, rose and lavender petals and Milky

Way molds and soap books, but they are pricey - you pay for the convenience

of not having to pay for shipping.

I've eliminated palm oil from my soap recipe - instead, I use stearic acid

derived from palm oil (also available at Zenith) as a hardener. It's

effective and ALOT cheaper.

Garden Soaps & Sundries

Edmonds, WA

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Has anyone HP'd *without* palm oil???

I already asked on the hp list and received no straight answer. I'm not

looking to get ones recipe(s), I can make up my own. I just want to know if

anyone has made a successful batch without palm oil, was there something

special done, or what-just to get a little assurance. All of the recipes I've

seen on websites for hp has this oil as an ingredient.

Peace, Joann

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In a message dated 00-01-07 21:35:09 EST, FreeJoann@... writes:

I make soap with nothing but olive oil all the time. I like to use goat's

milk as the liquid.

Rose

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Has anyone HP'd *without* palm oil???

I already asked on the hp list and received no straight answer. I'm not

looking to get ones recipe(s), I can make up my own. I just want to know if

anyone has made a successful batch without palm oil, was there something

special done, or what-just to get a little assurance. All of the recipes

I've

seen on websites for hp has this oil as an ingredient.

Peace, Joann >>

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Hi, Joann

Sorry I missed your question on Hotsoap ... I don't used palm, and I HP

a lot. I use lard for the hardness. My recipes have a variety of oils in

them, and the only one that acts much differently from any other is

coconut ... just because it saponifies so fast. And that would only

matter if it was the only oil in the batch. Beyond that, I haven't found

that the ingreients make much difference to the method.

Lori in P.E.I.

FreeJoann@... wrote:

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> Has anyone HP'd *without* palm oil???

> I already asked on the hp list and received no straight answer. I'm not

> looking to get ones recipe(s), I can make up my own. I just want to know if

> anyone has made a successful batch without palm oil, was there something

> special done, or what-just to get a little assurance. All of the recipes I've

> seen on websites for hp has this oil as an ingredient.

> Peace, Joann

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>>Has anyone HP'd *without* palm oil??? I already asked on the hp list and

received no straight answer. I'm not looking to get ones recipe(s), I can

make up my own. I just want to know if anyone has made a successful batch

without palm oil, was there something special done, or what-just to get a

little assurance. All of the recipes I've seen on websites for hp has this

oil as an ingredient.<<

Joann,

I never use palm oil in my soaps, and I do hot process almost exclusively.

My basic recipe is olive oil, coconut, and either corn or other filler oils.

Great soap can be made from ANY combination of fats/oils/lye. What you use

is personal preference and the kind of soap you want to get.

Nora

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Re: Palm Oil

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> >>Has anyone HP'd *without* palm oil??? I already asked on the hp list

and

> received no straight answer. I'm not looking to get ones recipe(s), I can

> make up my own. I just want to know if anyone has made a successful

batch

> without palm oil, was there something special done, or what-just to get a

> little assurance. All of the recipes I've seen on websites for hp has

this

> oil as an ingredient.<<

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> Joann,

>

> I never use palm oil in my soaps, and I do hot process almost

exclusively.

> My basic recipe is olive oil, coconut, and either corn or other filler

oils.

>

> Great soap can be made from ANY combination of fats/oils/lye. What you

use

> is personal preference and the kind of soap you want to get.

>

> Nora

>

>

>

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>

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Hi Joan-

I've never made a batch *with* palm oil! It's not a necessity.

Marie

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Barb,

The palm oil does not make your hair oily. I haven't had any problems with

oiliness. My hair is soft and more managable than it has been it years. My

husband, my dad and my adult children are now using it as a shampoo bar and love

it. No conditioners, no hairsprays, and gels. It's great.

Deb

you wrote:

Does the Palm oil make your hair oily? Or do you use a rinse? I've been

thinking of making a SHampoo bar (on my list of things to do, if you know

what I mean).

Barb J

Oregon

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An excellent source of oils is Liberty Natural.

www.libertynatural.com

Joan

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automobile.

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I just received this in my environmental news digest.

Another thing about palm oil. Thought you all might

want to read it.

Debbie S.

<http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/picsfront/20050928_orangsmall.jpg>

LONDON, UK, September 28, 2005 (ENS) - Consumption of

palm oil, a

vegetable oil found in one in 10 products on

supermarket shelves, is

driving the orangutan towards extinction, new research

shows. The " Oil

for Ape Scandal, " a report published Friday by Friends

of the Earth and

orangutan conservation groups, concludes that without

urgent

intervention the palm oil trade could cause the

extinction of the

orangutan, Asia's only great ape, within 12 years.

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- PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005

http://mail.

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In a message dated 9/29/2005 10:12:46 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

devorahsoap@... writes:

palm oil, a

vegetable oil found in one in 10 products on

supermarket shelves, is

driving the orangutan towards extinction, new research

shows

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Wow, that puts people who don't want to use animal fats for soap in quite a

quandry, doesn't it?

Beth

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This isn't new. I never use palm in my soaps, except for an unrefined

African red that gives the soap a lovely color. It loaded with beta

carotene, is fair trade, and wild harvested. RBD palm, ASAIK, has no

value for the skin. My soaps may not be as hard, but they still last a

long time, so I don't worry about the hardness.

Diane

www.GreenFireHerbs.com

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Debbie S, Pgh. wrote:

>I just received this in my environmental news digest.

>Another thing about palm oil. Thought you all might

>want to read it.

>

>Debbie S.

>

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><http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/picsfront/20050928_orangsmall.jpg>

>LONDON, UK, September 28, 2005 (ENS) - Consumption of

>palm oil, a

>vegetable oil found in one in 10 products on

>supermarket shelves, is

>driving the orangutan towards extinction, new research

>shows. The " Oil

>for Ape Scandal, " a report published Friday by Friends

>of the Earth and

>orangutan conservation groups, concludes that without

>urgent

>intervention the palm oil trade could cause the

>extinction of the

>orangutan, Asia's only great ape, within 12 years.

>

>

>

>

>__________________________________

> - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005

>http://mail.

>

>

>

>

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Why? I don't use any animal fats, and generally don't use palm oil. My

soaps are 25% coconut, 5% castor, maybe 3-5% each of a couple of other

oils or butters, and the rest olive oil. Generally, my soaps are 50%

olive oil or more. The only time I use palm oil, is when I add 5-10% of

an unrefined African Red Palm oil that is fair trade, wild harvested,

loaded with beta carotene, and gives the soap a nice orange to red

color. I have 3 soaps that I use this in, and over 50 soaps that I use

no palm oil in at all!

Diane

www.GreenFireHerbs.com

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ByrneBunch@... wrote:

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>In a message dated 9/29/2005 10:12:46 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

>devorahsoap@... writes:

>

>palm oil, a

>vegetable oil found in one in 10 products on

>supermarket shelves, is

>driving the orangutan towards extinction, new research

>shows

>

>

>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>Wow, that puts people who don't want to use animal fats for soap in quite a

>quandry, doesn't it?

>

>Beth

>

>

>

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In a message dated 9/29/2005 2:45:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

discuss@... writes:

Why? I don't use any animal fats, and generally don't use palm oil. My

soaps are 25% coconut, 5% castor, maybe 3-5% each of a couple of other

oils or butters, and the rest olive oil

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Well, I guess it doesn't affect you at all then. I think many soapers use

either palm, lard, or tallow.

Beth

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Yes, many soapers do. The point I was trying to make is that you don't

need to 'replace' the palm oil. It isn't a necessary oil at all.

Diane

www.GreenFireHerbs.com

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ByrneBunch@... wrote:

>

>In a message dated 9/29/2005 2:45:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

>discuss@... writes:

>

>Why? I don't use any animal fats, and generally don't use palm oil. My

>soaps are 25% coconut, 5% castor, maybe 3-5% each of a couple of other

>oils or butters, and the rest olive oil

>

>

>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>Well, I guess it doesn't affect you at all then. I think many soapers use

>either palm, lard, or tallow.

>

>Beth

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>

>

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Yeah I stopped using Palm Oil a while back; but not for this reason.

Though we all have to take into consideration of all the products we

uses and the high demand on the environment for them. Though it is

the Producer whom should be replanting what he takes, so it can

continue to flurish!!

Gabby

> I just received this in my environmental news digest.

> Another thing about palm oil. Thought you all might

> want to read it.

>

> Debbie S.

>

>

> <http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/picsfront/20050928_orangsmall.jpg>

> LONDON, UK, September 28, 2005 (ENS) - Consumption of

> palm oil, a

> vegetable oil found in one in 10 products on

> supermarket shelves, is

> driving the orangutan towards extinction, new research

> shows. The " Oil

> for Ape Scandal, " a report published Friday by Friends

> of the Earth and

> orangutan conservation groups, concludes that without

> urgent

> intervention the palm oil trade could cause the

> extinction of the

> orangutan, Asia's only great ape, within 12 years.

>

>

>

>

> __________________________________

> - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005

> http://mail.

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On Thursday April 27 2006 5:49 pm,

wrote:

> So, how does everyone use their palm oil?

Make biscuits with it!! They are delicious and my kids

loved the color!

, the one in purple, in

Oster, MN

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I agree with . Palm oil works great for biscuits. I think it made some of

the best biscuits ever!

Kathy

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Gayle,

What is the different in this palm oil? I'll like to try it.

Marisol in Brooklyn

Gayle <victorianherbal@...> wrote: Thanks

for all the replies to my question regarding Palm Oil. I have

let it cure a little longer an it is looking better. Gayle W.

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I love stir fry with palm oil!

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Palm Oil

I recently purchased Palm Oil, and am wondering how others use it? I've since

been told that it has it's own taste that restricts its use.

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On Jul 2, 2010, at 9:24 PM, trinajo73 wrote:

> I recently purchased Palm Oil, and am wondering how others use it? I've since

been told that it has it's own taste that restricts its use.

In the interests of sustainable nutrition & ecology, are you not concerned about

the ecological problems caused by harvesting palm oil?

--

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did you buy refined or unrefined palm oil? I bought some red palm oil from

Wilderness Family Naturals that was mild tasting. from their website

http://www.wildernessfamilynaturals.com/category/food-oils-natural-red-palm-oil.\

php

In our Natural Red Palm Oil the free fatty acids have been removed. By doing

this, the taste of the palm oil becomes very mild and its shelf life is greatly

extended.

then I bought some palm oil that was totally unrefined and it had a very strong

taste that I did not like. the only way I could get it down was to mix it with

some sauerkraut to mask the taste.

>

> I recently purchased Palm Oil, and am wondering how others use it? I've since

been told that it has it's own taste that restricts its use.

>

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Biomedical research indicates that palm oil, which is high in saturated fat and low in polyunsaturated fat, promotes heart disease. fat content of peanut oil (about 18%) and palm oil (at an incredibly high 79%).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_oil

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Do we ignore the damage to the environment and animals?

In a message dated 10/30/2011 8:09:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, furstc0404@... writes:

Personally, I don;t believe everything I read in scientific reports,There is massive involvement on Big Pharma, conflict of interestand competing trading interests. Add to this conflicting reports andtheories...There is lots of contracdictory studies, spanning over many years,including theories concerning diseases etc..There are plenty of scientific papers out there concerning the benefits of consuming Red Palm Oil.All foods contains beneficial and not so beneficial compounds,eaten in moderation and balanced diet, whatever is tolerated byan individual should be health restorative. IMHO.References at the bottom:

Red palm oil: nutritional, physiological and therapeutic roles in improving human wellbeing and quality of life.

Oguntibeju OO, Esterhuyse AJ, Truter EJ.

Source

Oxidative Stress Research Centre, Department of Biomedical Sciences, Faculty of Health & Wellness Sciences, Cape Peninsula University of Technology, Bellville, South Africa. bejufemi@...

Abstract

The link between dietary fats and cardiovascular disease has created a growing interest in dietary red palm oil research. Also, the link between nutrition and health, oxidative stress and the severity or progression of disease has stimulated further interest in the potential role of red palm oil (a natural antioxidant product) to improve oxidative status by reducing oxidative stress in patients with cardiovascular disease, cancer and other chronic diseases. In spite of its level of saturated fatty acid content (50%), red palm oil has not been found to promote atherosclerosis and/or arterial thrombosis. This is probably due to the ratio of its saturated fatty acid to unsaturated fatty acid content and its high concentration of antioxidants such as beta-carotene, tocotrienols, tocopherols and vitamin E. It has also been reported that the consumption of red palm oil reduces the level of endogenous cholesterol, and this seems to be due to the presence of the tocotrienols and the peculiar isomeric position of its fatty acids. The benefits of red palm oil to health include a reduction in the risk of arterial thrombosis and/or atherosclerosis, inhibition of endogenous cholesterol biosynthesis, platelet aggregation, a reduction in oxidative stress and a reduction in blood pressure. It has also been shown that dietary red palm oil, taken in moderation in animals and humans, promotes the efficient utilisation of nutrients, activates hepatic drug metabolising enzymes, facilitates the haemoglobinisation of red blood cells and improves immune function. This review provides a comprehensive overview of the nutritional, physiological and biochemical roles of red palm oil in improving wellbeing and quality of life. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20095133.....Cont/....They not only prevent cancer from taking hold but actively block its growth and initiate apoptosis—a process where diseased cells commit suicide. This is a normal process that is programmed into all of our cells in order to remove old and diseased cells. However, in cancer cells this process is blocked and affected cells continue to multiply and grow without restraint. Ordinary vitamin E, does not induce programmed cell death in cancer cells. Only tocotrienols have this effect.

Initial research has been so impressive that cancer researchers have called tocotrienols the most powerful natural anticancer substances known to science (Yano, 2005). That’s quit a bold statement, but illustrates the potential tocotrienols have in cancer prevention and treatment. Cont/....

Studies show palm tocotrienols inhibit the growth of skin, stomach, pancreas, liver, lung, colon, prostate, breast and other cancers. Most of the research to date has been done with breast cancer where tocotrienols show great promise. They not only prevent cancer from taking hold but actively block its growth and initiate apoptosis—a process where diseased cells commit suicide. This is a normal process that is programmed into all of our cells in order to remove old and diseased cells. However, in cancer cells this process is blocked and affected cells continue to multiply and grow without restraint. Ordinary vitamin E, does not induce programmed cell death in cancer cells. Only tocotrienols have this effect.

Initial research has been so impressive that cancer researchers have called tocotrienols the most powerful natural anticancer substances known to science (Yano, 2005). That’s quit a bold statement, but illustrates the potential tocotrienols have in cancer prevention and treatment.

The antioxidant power of palm oil has also shown to be of benefit in protecting against neurological degeneration. Two of the most significant factors that affect brain function are oxidative stress and poor circulation. Oxidative stress generates free radicals that damage brain and nerve tissue. Poor circulation affects the brain by restricting oxygen and glucose which are vital for proper brain function. Researchers have found correlations between oxidative stress and reduced blood flow to the brain to senile dementia, Alzheimer’s disease, Parkinson’s disease, Huntington’s disease, and even schizophrenia. All of these conditions involve brain cell death. Tocotrienols aid the brain by reducing oxidative stress and improving blood flow.

Researchers can mimic much of the destruction seen in the above neurological disorders by feeding test animals glutamate—an amino acid that kills brain cells. The primary action of cell death is caused by free radicals. Ordinary vitamin E is not strong enough to prevent glutamate-induced cell death. But palm tocotrienols can quench the destructive action of glutamate. In laboratory studies tocotrienol-treated neurons maintain healthy growth and motility even in the presences of excess glutamate (Khanna, 2003).

Research is showing that the antioxidant power of red palm oil can be of help in protecting against a variety of health problems including osteoporosis, asthma, cataract, macular degeneration, arthritis, and liver disease. It can even stunt the processes that promote premature aging. It’s no wonder it was regarded as a sacred food by the ancient Egyptians. Red palm oil is not just for pharaohs, it’s available to everyone. It is sold as a cooking oil and as a dietary supplement at most good health food stores and online.

References

Esterhuyse, A.J., et al. Dietary red palm oil supplementation protects against the consequences of global ischemia in the isolated perfused rat heart. Asia Pac J Clin Nutr 2005;14:340-347.

Khanna, S. et al. Molecular basis of vitamin E action: tocotrienol modulates 12-lipoxygenase, a key moderator of glutamate-induced neurodegeneration. J Biol Chem 2003;278:43508-43515.

Qureshi, A.A., et al. Response of Hypercholesterolemic subjects to administration of tocotrienols. Lipids 1995;30:1171-1177.

Sron, B. Palm oil’s track record. Global Oil and Fats 2005;2:24-25.

Tan, D.T.S., et al. Effect of a palm-oil-vitamin E concentrate on the serum and lipoprotein lipids in humans. Am J Clin Nutr 1991;53Suppl:1027S-1030S.

Tomeo, A.C., et al. Antioxidant effects of tocotrienols in patients with hyperlipidemia and carotid stenosis. Lipids 1995;30:1179-1183.

Yano, Y., et al. Induction of cytotoxicity in human lung adenocarcinoma cells by 6-0-carboxypropyl-alpha-tocotrienol, a redox-silent derivative of alpha-tocotrienol. Int J Cancer 2005;115:839-846.

Asia Pac J Clin Nutr. 2003;12(3):355-62.

Palm fruit chemistry and nutrition.

Sundram K, Sambanthamurthi R, Tan YA.

Source

Malaysian Palm Oil Board, P.O. Box 10620, 50720 Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. kalyana@...

Abstract

The palm fruit (Elaies guineensis) yields palm oil, a palmitic-oleic rich semi solid fat and the fat-soluble minor components, vitamin E (tocopherols, tocotrienols), carotenoids and phytosterols. A recent innovation has led to the recovery and concentration of water-soluble antioxidants from palm oil milling waste, characterized by its high content of phenolic acids and flavonoids. These natural ingredients pose both challenges and opportunities for the food and nutraceutical industries. Palm oil's rich content of saturated and monounsaturated fatty acids has actually been turned into an asset in view of current dietary recommendations aimed at zero trans content in solid fats such as margarine, shortenings and frying fats. Using palm oil in combination with other oils and fats facilitates the development of a new generation of fat products that can be tailored to meet most current dietary recommendations. The wide range of natural palm oil fractions, differing in their physico-chemical characteristics, the most notable of which is the carotenoid-rich red palm oil further assists this. Palm vitamin E (30% tocopherols, 70% tocotrienols) has been extensively researched for its nutritional and health properties, including antioxidant activities, cholesterol lowering, anti-cancer effects and protection against atherosclerosis. These are attributed largely to its tocotrienol content. A relatively new output from the oil palm fruit is the water-soluble phenolic-flavonoid-rich antioxidant complex. This has potent antioxidant properties coupled with beneficial effects against skin, breast and other cancers. Enabled by its water solubility, this is currently being tested for use as nutraceuticals and in cosmetics with potential benefits against skin aging. A further challenge would be to package all these palm ingredients into a single functional food for better nutrition and health.http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14506001

Palm oil-derived natural vitamin E alpha-tocotrienol in brain health and disease.

Sen CK, Rink C, Khanna S.

Source

Department of Surgery, The Ohio State University Medical Center, Columbus, Ohio, USA. chandan.sen@...

Abstract

A growing body of research supports that members of the vitamin E family are not redundant with respect to their biological function. Palm oil derived from Elaeis guineensis represents the richest source of the lesser characterized vitamin E, alpha-tocotrienol. One of 8 naturally occurring and chemically distinct vitamin E analogs, alpha-tocotrienol possesses unique biological activity that is independent of its potent antioxidant capacity. Current developments in alpha-tocotrienol research demonstrate neuroprotective properties for the lipid-soluble vitamin in brain tissue rich in polyunsaturated fatty acids (PUFAs). Arachidonic acid (AA), one of the most abundant PUFAs of the central nervous system, is highly susceptible to oxidative metabolism under pathologic conditions. Cleaved from the membrane phospholipid bilayer by cytosolic phospholipase A(2), AA is metabolized by both enzymatic and nonenzymatic pathways. A number of neurodegenerative conditions in the human brain are associated with disturbed PUFA metabolism of AA, including acute ischemic stroke. Palm oil-derived alpha-tocotrienol at nanomolar concentrations has been shown to attenuate both enzymatic and nonenzymatic mediators of AA metabolism and neurodegeneration. On a concentration basis, this represents the most potent of all biological functions exhibited by any natural vitamin E molecule. Despite such therapeutic potential, the scientific literature on tocotrienols accounts for roughly 1% of the total literature on vitamin E, thus warranting further investment and investigation.http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20823491--- On Fri, 10/28/11, szukidavis@... <szukidavis@...> wrote:

From: szukidavis@... <szukidavis@...>Subject: Palm Oilcures for cancer Date: Friday, October 28, 2011, 11:43 PM

Biomedical research indicates that palm oil, which is high in saturated fat and low in polyunsaturated fat, promotes heart disease. fat content of peanut oil (about 18%) and palm oil (at an incredibly high 79%).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_oil