Guest guest Posted August 18, 2000 Report Share Posted August 18, 2000 << Why do the surgury when the simplist solution is to do the PROTOCOL (and it won't hurt him even if he doesnt have the mito problem). >> I gotta admit I agree with Kathy on this. Also the Metametrix organic acid test is highly relevant since the biopsies only pick up genetic things and those will elevate at most one or two intermediates, while induced (toxic) disorders elevate a lot of them. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2000 Report Share Posted August 18, 2000 That mito connection is just another reason for me to do the chelation. My son is having a biopsy done on Tues to check for mito disorder. He tested very high to lactic acid and pyruvic as well. Is there anything special I should have checked while he is under to see if he does have any mercury there? They will be drawing blood after the surgery is over while he is still asleep. Thanks, Phyllis ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2000 Report Share Posted August 18, 2000 Phyliss Be sure to know what the mercury level is, my son now has a lovely deep scar on his leg to be experimented on as a guinea pig. Know the protocol! The protocol is simply to give them a mitochondrial cocktail consisting of CoEnzymeQ10, A, C E and K niocinamide and B1 and of course, he hem, alpha lipoic acid! Why not just DO the protocol then test to see what happens, also think about a PALEO diet as well, this has helped my son to control seizures as well. The blood draw is painful if it is an arterial blood draw, (from the neck) or major artery. Why do the surgury when the simplist solution is to do the PROTOCOL (and it won't hurt him even if he doesnt have the mito problem). I guess I get off on this becuase I realized how dufuss I was and now the scar when it was just simple. Once they know, there is LITTLE to do about it but by nutritional interventions! Kathy (my two cents) Re: [ ] Mito/lactic/mercury >That mito connection is just another reason for me to do the chelation. >My son is having a biopsy done on Tues to check for mito disorder. He >tested very high to lactic acid and pyruvic as well. Is there anything >special I should have checked while he is under to see if he does have >any mercury there? They will be drawing blood after the surgery is over >while he is still asleep. >Thanks, >Phyllis >________________________________________________________________ >YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! >Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! >Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2000 Report Share Posted August 18, 2000 Andy, Kathy, and all, My son's apparent mitochondrial dysfunction has almost disappeared after 5 1/2 rounds of chelation. It is wonderful to see him run and play and not melt. Have a great day ), Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2000 Report Share Posted August 18, 2000 I can kick myself for subjecting my kid to surgery (which he doesn't do well with by the way, could that be related to mercury?). So Andy, you are saying one or two, but the only things that were picked up were pyruvate and lactic acid. Interestingly, the muscle sample did not hold up under testing and became an unviable sample, so further pissing me off, it was a waste of time. But from what they could see, he had no unusual shaped mitochondria or ragged red fibers excess or not enough. I know for a fact that my son is mercury poisned and mitochondrial poisined. Also andy, does this statement make sense to you? " It is well known the mercury will store first in the kidney, second in the liver, third in the neurological tisssues and fourth in the GI tract? " When you chelate, what is the order? Is it backwards from that? KAthy Re: [ ] Mito/lactic/mercury ><< Why do the surgury when the simplist >solution is to do the PROTOCOL (and it won't hurt him even if he doesnt have >the mito problem). >> > >I gotta admit I agree with Kathy on this. > >Also the Metametrix organic acid test is highly relevant since the biopsies >only pick up genetic things and those will elevate at most one or two >intermediates, while induced (toxic) disorders elevate a lot of them. > >Andy > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2000 Report Share Posted August 18, 2000 Can you describe the meltdown? Here are the things I see: Heavy breathing, almost hyperventalative Muscle control goes out the window (more chorso movements) Seizures Thinness or loss of appetite Excercise intolerance or just plain walking a few yards Aggressive I have seen improvement in my protocol and with our 2nd week of chelating too! This is exciting areas here, finally. I am now seeing corrolations with my own health as well. Next is me, but first the kids! Kathy Re: [ ] Mito/lactic/mercury >Andy, Kathy, and all, > >My son's apparent mitochondrial dysfunction has almost >disappeared after 5 1/2 rounds of chelation. It is wonderful >to see him run and play and not melt. > >Have a great day ), > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2000 Report Share Posted August 18, 2000 Okay, I missed something what is mitochorial dysfunction? Joan Re: [ ] Mito/lactic/mercury >Andy, Kathy, and all, > >My son's apparent mitochondrial dysfunction has almost >disappeared after 5 1/2 rounds of chelation. It is wonderful >to see him run and play and not melt. > >Have a great day ), > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2000 Report Share Posted August 18, 2000 Andy can explain this better than I , but I will give it a shot. I think mostly if you think about a fire with smoke coming out of it. The mitochondrials are the energy factories in our cells, where we derive our energy to move and breathe and think and digest and all that. If you have too much smoke it chokes the fire out, if you have too much fire, then it exhausts too. So, if you don't have the right kind of fuel to get the fire going, sustain it and or choke it or shorten it, then you have mitochondrial dysfunction. Since mercury HANDILY nukes the crap out of this Kreb Cycle process, you get the lovely diagnosis of a genetic (sometimes) mitochondrial problem with it's associated neurological cns problems, ie, seizures, muscle wasting, cognition problems, digestive problems, endocrine problems. Since mercury cleaves to thiols and also your immune system it also gives you oxidative stress, like you never ate a vegetable or fruit in your life and all you live on is crap. To put it bluntly. Your cells are not getting vital nutrients and then the cell can die (apotosis). Great heh? Kathy Re: [ ] Mito/lactic/mercury > > >>Andy, Kathy, and all, >> >>My son's apparent mitochondrial dysfunction has almost >>disappeared after 5 1/2 rounds of chelation. It is wonderful >>to see him run and play and not melt. >> >>Have a great day ), >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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