Guest guest Posted September 30, 2001 Report Share Posted September 30, 2001 Judy, Hi, this is MIchael Guthrie. I am a clinical pharmacist who worked with the Immune Institute in California for a couple of years, and am now putting a program in Atlanta. I have a pretty good beginning on the website at www.atlantaim.com . Send me an email if you'd like, and I can let you know if our program has what you're looking for, or if we don't, I'll be glad to help you track down what you are looking for. Best, Guthrie R.Ph. Atlanta Integrative Medical Divsion of Progressive Medical Group -----Original Message-----From: JudyK [mailto:uno-man@...]Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 7:45 AMcures for cancer Subject: IMS clinic in Ga. to ??? whoever wrote to the group about the IMS clinic in Ga. Please tell us the full name of the clinic in Ga. and where it is in Ga. If there is a web adress please include that to. That was a wonderful story about your mother and I would like to check out a place so close to me(I am in Fl.) I am interested in IPT therapy but their website does not include the name of a dr. in Ga. I don't believe. Thanks Judy HoffmanGet HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2001 Report Share Posted September 30, 2001 In a message dated 9/30/01 5:44:26 AM, uno-man@... writes: >I am interested in IPT therapy but their website does not include the name >of a dr. in Ga. I don't believe. Thanks Judy Hoffman >I read about the aidan clinic in Arizona in the Nov. Alternative Medicine Mag. and my >surgeon thinks he should do a biopsy and send me to Arizona for that approach. Hi Judy. Below is a list of docs that do IPT in Ga and Florida and one in tenn. this is from the ipt website. I just wanted to tell you that I've had dealing with AIDAN and Neil I tried for 2 months to get into their program, with money in hand. They lied to me, wouldn't return my calls. then got mad at me because i kept calling to get the information that they told me they would give me. the Advanced alternatives cancer clinic in reno bought the dendritic cell vaccine from them that I used for 3 months. It did nothing but empty my bank account. They started out telling me they wanted $11,000 for their treatment, then told me it would be some where around $18,000 to $20,000, maybe? I couldn't in good conscience recommend these people either. So here's the list of ipt docs; Klaus T.R. Shantha, MD, PhD, FACA IPT doctor #13 certified Feb 22, 2001, Las Vegas course. Physician and medical researcher. Has published numerous papers and books. Used insulin in treatment of mental illness in 1954-1955. IPT training in February, 2001. Curriculum Vitae (resume) business: Integrated Medical Specialists LLC address: 115 Eagle Spring Dr, Stockbridge GA 30281 USA phone: 770-474-4029 toll-free: 1-866-466-8631 fax: 770-474-2038 email: shantha35@... website: Naima Abdel-Ghany MD IPT doctor #16 certified Feb 22, 2001, Las Vegas course. Preventive medicine, internal medicine, occupational medicine, anti-aging medicine address: 340 W 23rd St Ste K, Panama City FL 32405 USA phone: 850-872-8122 fax: 850-271-2106 email: amalheal@... N MD IPT doctor #17 certificate #18, Feb 22, 2001, Las Vegas course. General surgery, cosmetic surgery, chelation therapy, laser surgery, weight loss clinic. address: 5536 St, Milton FL 32570 USA phone: 850-623-3836 fax: 850-623-2201 email: w12728e@... Dayton MD DO IPT doctor #28 certificate #30, Feb 22, 2001, Las Vegas course. address: 18600 Ave, Sunny Isles Beach FL 33160 USA phone: 305-931-8484 fax: 305-936-1849 email: mddomddo@... Hunt MD IPT doctor #33 June 24, 2001, Oklahoma City course Nutritional assessment, lab testing, EDTA chelation, oxidative & vitamin therapies by IV. Complete family medical care. Other alternative and conventional medical treatments for cancer, heart diseases, disabilities, fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue, hypertension, and more. business: Preventive Medicine address: 1415 Rd. Old Hickory , TN 37138 USA phone: (615) 541-0400 fax: (615) 847- 4142 email: rjhunt@... website: www.geocities.com/preventionmd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2001 Report Share Posted September 30, 2001 ..thanks for your response. I checked out your website but I didn't see any mention of IPT therapy for cancer. Do they do this therapy? Do they offer Hyperthermia? What about vaccines?? These are my special interests. Judy Hoffman RE: IMS clinic in Ga. Judy, Hi, this is MIchael Guthrie. I am a clinical pharmacist who worked with the Immune Institute in California for a couple of years, and am now putting a program in Atlanta. I have a pretty good beginning on the website at www.atlantaim.com . Send me an email if you'd like, and I can let you know if our program has what you're looking for, or if we don't, I'll be glad to help you track down what you are looking for. Best, Guthrie R.Ph. Atlanta Integrative Medical Divsion of Progressive Medical Group -----Original Message-----From: JudyK [mailto:uno-man@...]Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 7:45 AMcures for cancer Subject: IMS clinic in Ga. to ??? whoever wrote to the group about the IMS clinic in Ga. Please tell us the full name of the clinic in Ga. and where it is in Ga. If there is a web adress please include that to. That was a wonderful story about your mother and I would like to check out a place so close to me(I am in Fl.) I am interested in IPT therapy but their website does not include the name of a dr. in Ga. I don't believe. Thanks Judy HoffmanGet HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2001 Report Share Posted September 30, 2001 Dear Guthrie R. Ph.: Do you mind e-mailing me info on the immune system and how to make it stronger. I have NHL low. It is a malt/marginal zone type. It is stage 4. It was first in my stomach and after chop and radiation moved to my lungs. I am being managed with TOP-M chemo right now. Thanks. Olivia Kamenos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2001 Report Share Posted October 1, 2001 You want to start with a good vitamin/mineral antioxidant product. The following are amounts/day Be sure to add 200mg/day COQ 10 Be sure to add 200 to 400mg/day Alpha lipoic Acid. Vitamin A 20,000 units Vitamin C 2000mg Vitamin E (mixed tocopherols) 400-800 units Zinc 15 to 30 mg Selenium 200 to 400 mcg/day Mixed Carotenoids 10 to 25 thousand units Grape seed extract 200 to 300mg No iron No copper Then go with 25 to 50mg/kg/day of beta of a good source of beta glucan To this, add MGN-3 or Immpower If you still have money left add transfer factor plus (Multi-level) or Ai/E10 (multi-level) This should be a good start. -----Original Message-----From: OLIVIAKAMENOS@... [mailto:OLIVIAKAMENOS@...]Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 2:30 PMcures for cancer Subject: Re: IMS clinic in Ga.Dear Guthrie R. Ph.: Do you mind e-mailing me info on the immune system and how to make it stronger. I have NHL low. It is a malt/marginal zone type. It is stage 4. It was first in my stomach and after chop and radiation moved to my lungs. I am being managed with TOP-M chemo right now. Thanks. Olivia KamenosGet HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2001 Report Share Posted October 2, 2001 used to be tied to Dr. Darryl See's clinic I believe...or is it Garth Nicholson's clinic IMMED in Huntington?...I know Darryl is no longer at the center in Orange Cty...?? Dr.Bormann JudyK wrote: ..thanks for your response. I checked out your website but I didn't see any mention of IPT therapy for cancer. Do they do this therapy? Do they offer Hyperthermia? What about vaccines?? These are my special interests. Judy Hoffman IMS clinic in Ga. to ??? whoever wrote to the group about the IMS clinic in Ga. Please tell us the full name of the clinic in Ga. and where it is in Ga. If there is a web adress please include that to. That was a wonderful story about your mother and I would like to check out a place so close to me(I am in Fl.)I am interested in IPT therapy but their website does not include the name of a dr. in Ga. I don't believe. Thanks Judy Hoffman Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2001 Report Share Posted October 2, 2001 This is true. I worked with the Immune Institute in Orange County for nearly two years as a consultant/public professional relations etc. That clinic worked with Garth Nicolson a lot as well, and I wrote an article about Garth and Mycoplasmas that was in Alternative Medicine Magazine a couple of issues ago. I am no longer with Immune Institute...and neither is Dr. See. I speak with Dr. Nicolson frequently i.r. to CFIDS and other fatiguing illnesses, and we use his lab for PCR. Best, IMS clinic in Ga. to ??? whoever wrote to the group about the IMS clinic in Ga. Please tell us the full name of the clinic in Ga. and where it is in Ga. If there is a web adress please include that to. That was a wonderful story about your mother and I would like to check out a place so close to me(I am in Fl.)I am interested in IPT therapy but their website does not include the name of a dr. in Ga. I don't believe. Thanks Judy Hoffman Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2001 Report Share Posted October 2, 2001 Dear . I'm curious how much do you pay for this assortiment in the USA? Because most of it is also prescribred in the Netherlands and I would like to compare the prices. Because I'm everytime again shocked when I hear how much money many clinics and alternative hospitals in the USA charge for a treatment. If I read US $ 4.500,-- till US $ 6.000,-- a week I'm really shocked. In certain countries in the world people don't even earn that for their living in a year. I mean this cancergroup is also for people around the whole world, but sometimes I have the idea that some people talk so easy about the money what it all costs. I also had the feeling I had to pay a lot extra here in the Netherlands but still I never payed more than about US $ 100,-- a month. And half of it I got back form my insurancecompany. And some people pay maybe the double but that is as far as I know the limit for nutritional supplements. And surgery etc. is paid by the insurancecompanies, also new ways of treatments like hyperthermya or livertransplantations etc. Ofcourse also here is the problem that additional and alternative treatments aren't paid by the insurancecompanies but a few months ago the european Court has done a judgement that when in a certain Europen country a certain treatment isn't available and it is only possible to undergo such a treatment in another country and if all shows that is worth to try to undergo it than the insurancecompany is obliged to pay. Not so many people know this but if you go to a lawyer you will win always they told me. Ofcourse it has to be a treatment in a hospital or in a clinic related to a hospital but most trials with new treatments are done in hospitals here in Europe and not so often in private clinics. Though in Germany and Italy there are some wellknown privateclinics. But maybe you could give me some indication what those supplements cost in the USA? Thanks in advance Kees Braam webmaster www.kanker-actueel.nl RE: IMS clinic in Ga. You want to start with a good vitamin/mineral antioxidant product. The following are amounts/day Be sure to add 200mg/day COQ 10 Be sure to add 200 to 400mg/day Alpha lipoic Acid. Vitamin A 20,000 units Vitamin C 2000mg Vitamin E (mixed tocopherols) 400-800 units Zinc 15 to 30 mg Selenium 200 to 400 mcg/day Mixed Carotenoids 10 to 25 thousand units Grape seed extract 200 to 300mg No iron No copper Then go with 25 to 50mg/kg/day of beta of a good source of beta glucan To this, add MGN-3 or Immpower If you still have money left add transfer factor plus (Multi-level) or Ai/E10 (multi-level) This should be a good start. -----Original Message-----From: OLIVIAKAMENOS@... [mailto:OLIVIAKAMENOS@...]Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 2:30 PMcures for cancer Subject: Re: IMS clinic in Ga.Dear Guthrie R. Ph.: Do you mind e-mailing me info on the immune system and how to make it stronger. I have NHL low. It is a malt/marginal zone type. It is stage 4. It was first in my stomach and after chop and radiation moved to my lungs. I am being managed with TOP-M chemo right now. Thanks. Olivia KamenosGet HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2001 Report Share Posted October 3, 2001 In a message dated 10/3/01 9:36:17 AM Central Daylight Time, consultation@... writes: Subj:Re: IMS clinic in Ga. Date:10/3/01 9:36:17 AM Central Daylight Time From: consultation@... ( Guthrie) Reply-to: cures for cancer cures for cancer This is true. I worked with the Immune Institute in Orange County for nearly two years as a consultant/public professional relations etc. That clinic worked with Garth Nicolson a lot as well, and I wrote an article about Garth and Mycoplasmas that was in Alternative Medicine Magazine a couple of issues ago. I am no longer with Immune Institute...and neither is Dr. See. I speak with Dr. Nicolson frequently i.r. to CFIDS and other fatiguing illnesses, and we use his lab for PCR. Best, A friend of a friend of my Mothers is going to this clinic Immune Support in Huntington Beach. Is it any good? thanks Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2001 Report Share Posted October 4, 2001 The real brains of the operation, Dr. See, is no longer there, but the protocols are, and they were fairly solid, in my opinion. There tends to be a "one size fits all" mentality with the protocols, which bothers me, and while they were my client, I had numerous complaints about operational issues... Success rates are grossly exagerrated. I tried many times to obtain basic outcomes data...as simple as "how many patients are still alive that have been to the clinic" and found that no one knew. There are some really nice people that work there, but if it were me, I would look elsewhere where the science is continuing to emerge. One bright spot appears to be a relationship they have with a local radiation oncologist who seems really sharp. I know of an inflammatory breast cancer patient who has done extremely well initially...most of it I would attribute to low dose radiation with hyperthermia...along with pro-oxidant therapy, I3C and some other pretty basic stuff. For a while they were doing apheresis, and that looked very promising as well. I don't know if they are still doing that. Even Rigdon Lentz has run into difficulty with the FDA i.r. to apheresis. Best, -----Original Message-----From: musicgirl1993@... [mailto:musicgirl1993@...]Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 12:20 PMcures for cancer Subject: Re: IMS clinic in Ga.In a message dated 10/3/01 9:36:17 AM Central Daylight Time, consultation@... writes: Subj:Re: IMS clinic in Ga. Date:10/3/01 9:36:17 AM Central Daylight Time From: consultation@... ( Guthrie) Reply-to: cures for cancer cures for cancer This is true. I worked with the Immune Institute in Orange County for nearly two years as a consultant/public professional relations etc. That clinic worked with Garth Nicolson a lot as well, and I wrote an article about Garth and Mycoplasmas that was in Alternative Medicine Magazine a couple of issues ago. I am no longer with Immune Institute...and neither is Dr. See. I speak with Dr. Nicolson frequently i.r. to CFIDS and other fatiguing illnesses, and we use his lab for PCR. Best, A friend of a friend of my Mothers is going to this clinic Immune Support in Huntington Beach. Is it any good? thanks Kim Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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