Re: Recovering with T3 Book - USA Suggestions Welcomed

[Guest guest]

I sent it to quite a few USA thyroid forums , including

Natural thyroid Hormones, Natural Thyroid Hormone/Adrenals,

Reverse T3 forum, Hypothyroidism, Iodine, Natural

thyroid hormone/Europe and the 'Thyroidless' forum.

The US About/Thyroid forum has some particularly unpleasant

people around there who really don't care what they say or how much they hurt other

members, and I have not been there for years - nor would I. The top writers

there are all the very best of friends with Shomon and don't like anybody

coming in they might see to be stepping on her toes, so, take it as a

compliment, you are somebody they might see as having found a corner in

hypothyroidism that hadn't yet been explored, and DRAT! YOU, dear boy, have

been the one to have 'been and gone and done it'! So, not likely that you will

be treated well in such circumstances. Oh, the stories I could tell. There used

to be (is???) a UK About.com/thyroid support group, but there is very little to

no activity from what I have heard, that too got extremely nasty at times,

which is a great shame when there are patients crying out for help and support.

Don't worry about them , once people start to read your book

and start to regain their normal health, and better, once they start discussing

your book on the thyroid forums, others will soon get to hear of it and start

to plump up the sales. It is always difficult promoting a book, but when it is

about 'boring old thyroid disease' it is hard to know how best to promote it.

Luv - She

IF ANY OF YOU HAVE FACEBOOK PALS, GOOD CONTACTS WITH THYROID WEBSITES OR THE

PRESS IN THE USA then I'd appreciate any help or suggestions you have to get

the message out to the thyroid patients in the USA or Canada (or the rest of

Europe for that matter).

This book is not going to make a lot of money. I'm also not going to go into

the consultancy business as various other thyroid book authors have done

(including the ones who aren't medically trained). I am intending to do far

fewer individual T3 advice sessions now because the book pretty much covers

everything.

The book has virtually everything that I consider to be worth knowing about T3

in it. It is big and full of info. But all the work I've put into it will be

pointless if those thyroid patients all over the world in various countries

don't know it exists. The USA is key to this and I currently have no real

access to the USA.

Thanks again for your support.

My warmest regards as always,

[Guest guest]

Hi

May I suggest that you promote yourself via flyers initially to local womens

groups ie Womens Institute. Many groups are looking for good informative

speakers and your book can besold and signed at the events.

A good hook I used years ago for the thyroid support group was " What Your Dr

didnt tell you about thyroid " and " Thyroid when normal aint normal "

Do you have 'Meet Up Groups in UK, register and make yourself available to

groups in your area where you can be available to speak and inform their

members. www.meetup.com

Plan a talk at your local library

Also google ads are quite cheap and can be placed appropriately. You pay per

'click' and can set an amount each day of how much you may want to spend ie 5

gbp per week or XX amount each day. When ppl click on your google ad it takes

people to your website where they could buy your book directly with a paypal

cart or to an amazon/ebay/craigslist page.

You may also like to consider approaching a Speakers Bureau or Agent who could

promote you or make speaking bookings on your behalf.

Just a few 'off the wall' ideas

jennyF

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> I sent it to quite a few USA thyroid forums , including Natural

> thyroid Hormones, Natural Thyroid Hormone/Adrenals, Reverse T3

> forum, Hypothyroidism, Iodine, Natural thyroid

> hormone/Europe and the 'Thyroidless' forum.

>

> The US About/Thyroid forum has some particularly unpleasant people around

> there who really don't care what they say or how much they hurt other

> members, and I have not been there for years - nor would I. The top writers

> there are all the very best of friends with Shomon and don't like

> anybody coming in they might see to be stepping on her toes, so, take it as

> a compliment, you are somebody they might see as having found a corner in

> hypothyroidism that hadn't yet been explored, and DRAT! YOU, dear boy, have

> been the one to have 'been and gone and done it'! So, not likely that you

> will be treated well in such circumstances. Oh, the stories I could tell.

> There used to be (is???) a UK About.com/thyroid support group, but there is

> very little to no activity from what I have heard, that too got extremely

> nasty at times, which is a great shame when there are patients crying out

> for help and support.

>

> Don't worry about them , once people start to read your book and start

> to regain their normal health, and better, once they start discussing your

> book on the thyroid forums, others will soon get to hear of it and start to

> plump up the sales. It is always difficult promoting a book, but when it is

> about 'boring old thyroid disease' it is hard to know how best to promote

> it.

>

[Guest guest]

I just remembered that author Peck (The Road Less Traveled) was

interviewed each and every day on a radio station and it was this daily

interview that he put his success of getting on the best selling list down to.

With 52 states in america, and loads of local radio stations, someone was always

listening and book sales would be made. The word got out.

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> Hi

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> May I suggest that you promote yourself via flyers initially to local womens

groups ie Womens Institute. Many groups are looking for good informative

speakers and your book can besold and signed at the events.

> A good hook I used years ago for the thyroid support group was " What Your Dr

didnt tell you about thyroid " and " Thyroid when normal aint normal "

>

[Guest guest]

This would be great and would open the worlds eyes to what is REALLY

happening to those suffering with symptoms of hypothyroidism. Tell the story

like it REALLY is - and the reason why you had to write the book because of the

hell you had been put through (like millions of others) because of doctors

reliance on thyroid function test results ONLY, and how you found that the only

thyroid hormone that worked for you is T3. Start with the local radio station

where you live , and you can refer listeners to TPA if they are suffering

and need care and support they are not getting from their doctors.

Luv - Sheila

I just remembered that author Peck (The Road Less Traveled) was

interviewed each and every day on a radio station and it was this daily

interview that he put his success of getting on the best selling list down to.

With 52 states in america, and loads of local radio stations, someone was

always listening and book sales would be made. The word got out.

F

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[Guest guest]

, would it be worth posting information about this on to

the Australian thyroid forums and asking the owners of web sites there such as http://www.thyroidfoundation.com.au/atfhome.html

to let their readers know about this, remembering, of course, that 's book

is, we believe, the ONLY book every written about just T3. Do you have a list

of the Australian thyroid forums, and which one is the biggest?

Luv - Sheila

Hi

May I suggest that you promote yourself via flyers initially to local womens

groups ie Womens Institute. Many groups are looking for good informative

speakers and your book can besold and signed at the events.

A good hook I used years ago for the thyroid support group was " What Your

Dr didnt tell you about thyroid " and " Thyroid when normal aint

normal "

Do you have 'Meet Up Groups in UK, register and make yourself available to

groups in your area where you can be available to speak and inform their

members. www.meetup.com

Plan a talk at your local library

Also google ads are quite cheap and can be placed appropriately. You pay per

'click' and can set an amount each day of how much you may want to spend ie 5

gbp per week or XX amount each day. When ppl click on your google ad it takes

people to your website where they could buy your book directly with a paypal

cart or to an amazon/ebay/craigslist page.

You may also like to consider approaching a Speakers Bureau or Agent who could

promote you or make speaking bookings on your behalf.

Just a few 'off the wall' ideas

jennyF

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[Guest guest]

Sure Shelia, I will mark it in to do on Thursday. Do not have up to date forum

info but will source what I can and send notification to all.

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> , would it be worth posting information about this on to the Australian

> thyroid forums and asking the owners of web sites there such as

> http://www.thyroidfoundation.com.au/atfhome.html to let their readers know

> about this, remembering, of course, that 's book is, we believe, the

> ONLY book every written about just T3. Do you have a list of the Australian

> thyroid forums, and which one is the biggest?

>

> Luv - Sheila

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> Hi

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> May I suggest that you promote yourself via flyers initially to local womens

> groups ie Womens Institute. Many groups are looking for good informative

> speakers and your book can besold and signed at the events.

> A good hook I used years ago for the thyroid support group was " What Your Dr

> didnt tell you about thyroid " and " Thyroid when normal aint normal "

> Do you have 'Meet Up Groups in UK, register and make yourself available to

> groups in your area where you can be available to speak and inform their

> members. www.meetup.com

>

> Plan a talk at your local library

>

> Also google ads are quite cheap and can be placed appropriately. You pay per

> 'click' and can set an amount each day of how much you may want to spend ie

> 5 gbp per week or XX amount each day. When ppl click on your google ad it

> takes people to your website where they could buy your book directly with a

> paypal cart or to an amazon/ebay/craigslist page.

>

> You may also like to consider approaching a Speakers Bureau or Agent who

> could promote you or make speaking bookings on your behalf.

>

> Just a few 'off the wall' ideas

>

> jennyF

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[Guest guest]

OH OH OH - and what about the University of Third Age U3 something or another -

they love speakers too. and SAGA for older UK people - now SAGA have a forum and

local meet ups too.

jennyF

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> Sure Shelia, I will mark it in to do on Thursday. Do not have up to date

forum info but will source what I can and send notification to all.

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[Guest guest]

Also, if you know any naturopaths personally, well they have access to data

bases of naturopaths all over the UK and you could do an email flyer to everyone

on that associations data base. Or enquire about an ad. Many naturopaths work

with thyroid people and may be very happy to get some real information about T3

treatment protocols etc

Then there are Natural healing expos where you may wish to consider setting up a

stall - depending on the cost and sell from the stall. You could perhaps speak

at one of these type of conferences as they hold 30min workshops and do need

informative speakers to be able to promote the expos.

jennyF

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> > Sure Shelia, I will mark it in to do on Thursday. Do not have up to date

forum info but will source what I can and send notification to all.

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Good ideas - duly noted.

I appreciate it.

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> Hi

>

> May I suggest that you promote yourself via flyers initially to local womens

groups ie

[Guest guest]

Thanks Sheila,

I'm getting a long list of work and this is good - it'll stop me fretting about

lack of USA interest.

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> This would be great and would open the worlds eyes to what is REALLY

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I have several pieces of promotional material about the book including the front

cover image and Amazon product description (but in proper paragraphs) that would

be useful if anything can be put on Aussie websites.

If you want any of this just email me and let me know here that you've done so

and I'll send it to you.

THANK YOU for your good ideas.

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

No I don't I'm afraid.

I did most of my work with three sources of information:

1) endocrinology textbooks and high quality published medical research

2) my endocrinologist

3) pragmatic experience (my own, other thyroid patients) - including large

numbers of personal experimentation over many years - I am a human test tube!!!

I've not relied on naturopaths or internet documents much. I've come at my own

problems from a scientific perspective and the results are driven by data and

actual medical research findings. I'm hoping that this approach is going to make

the book more of interest to the medical profession - I'd like to get some

dialogue going with endos who are interested in this. Clearly, the book needs to

be successful first before it will reach their consciousness - but that is my

strategy.

I'm NOT implying that naturopaths don't know what they're doing or I'm against

them in any way. It just isn't the route I've taken. I feel lucky about this now

because if this book has any hope of changing any medical minds then this

approach would have been needed.

Sheila, at some point down the road we may need to suggest to the members here

that if any endos do take a positive interest in this then I would be happy to

speak to them - file this idea for 6-12 months and let's come back to it.

Cheers,

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> Also, if you know any naturopaths personally, well they have access to data

bases of naturopaths all over the UK and you could do an email flyer to everyone

on that

[Guest guest]

hi there, try typing in google all the states in america, plus thyroid groups. IE: new york thyroid group/ Etc; and see what comes up. i believe that their are groups in most states.also post on mary shoman`s site for a list. umm http://www.about.com/thyroid. angel.

[Guest guest]

Hi pureT3paul I have spoken with Dianne from the the same one as

val ect, she is going to purchase a copy and have a read through. Then im

guessing if/and when they approve of it, it will more than likely be all over

the American which Val runs.

But that being said i guess what you have actually wrote in the book will depend

on how much it is advertised on vals . As you have mentioned a

couple of things in the past which go against what Val reccommends, but Val's

number one aim is to help people. So if she does indeed take to your idea of

early morning dosing instead of what they believe at the minute of FT3 peaking

at midnight.

Diane was very interested, so i guess time will tell over the next few weeks

once people have had a chance to read!

Steve

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> Hi All,

[Guest guest]

That's a brilliant idea.

I'm feeling a bit thick about some of this stuff.

I also feel like a grubby marketeer (no offence to any marketing people here

intended!).

Thanks Judith/Angel - your're good at this !!!!!

>

> hi there, try typing in google all the states in america, plus thyroid groups.

IE: new york thyroid group/ Etc; and see what comes up. i believe that their are

groups in most states.also post on mary shoman`s site for a list. umm

http://www.about.com/thyroid. angel.

>

[Guest guest]

Well FT3 doesn't peak at midnight - that's a medical fact.

Let's see what they think.

I'm not against what they are doing at all I just think that they are missing

the opportunity to minimise the use of HC and in some cases people just don't

need it.

I hope they see that.

If they like it I can speak to them. If they hate it then there may be no point.

Did they say that they would let you know?

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> Hi pureT3paul I have spoken with Dianne from the the same one

as val

[Guest guest]

Steve,

If Dianne wants me to clarify anything once she starts reading then let her know

that I'm up for that.

We can find a way of communicating - I may need to join the appropriate forum.

Can you act as a go-between on that?

Thanks,

>

> Hi pureT3paul I have spoken with Dianne from the the same one

as val

[Guest guest]

Steve,

You should warn Dianne that there are some clarifications I've made that may run

contrary to some deeply held views BUT they don't run contrary to their overall

protocol.

1. Cortisol isn't needed for thyroid hormone take up in the cells. There is no

direct chemical relationship here - this is a misunderstanding. The relationship

is far more subtle. Cortisol and insulin work in cooperation to enable proper

glucose flow into the cells and the mitochondria within. This is necessary for

adequate ATP generation. It means that in some cases people can take thyroid

hormone even though their cortisol is low and see improvement. In cases of

chronic cortisol deficiency then HC will indeed be required to ensure enough

glucose enters the cells. However, cortisol itself doesn't take any direct

action in the takeup of thyroid hormone. This is a technical clarification

although from a pragmatic point of view it may not make a substantial difference

to the protocol that people use.

2. An early T3 dose can in many cases help the adrenals to work better if the

dose is correctly titrated. This may be enough to avoid any HC or it may be

enough to reduce the HC dosage or it may not work - all three are possible

depending on the state of the adrenals or pituitary stimulation of them.

I believe that the book 'Recovering T3' is a adjunct to the methods that they

are using at the moment. There is no conflict at all. The entire book needs to

be read in order to see this.

I would be delighted to work with Dianne and Val at any point in the future in

any way that they wish as I see no conflict whatsover. My focus has been on the

optimal use of T3 and on clarification of many aspects of T3 and the adrenal

side of things has actually only been a minor aspect of the book.

Steve - can you pass the above on to Dianne please (see can pass it on to Val if

she thinks fit).

Thanks mate.

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> Hi pureT3paul I have spoken with Dianne from the the same one

as val

[Guest guest]

Hi re feeling like a marketeer - There are times that the message is more

important than the messenger.......

F

>

> That's a brilliant idea.

> I'm feeling a bit thick about some of this stuff.

> I also feel like a grubby marketeer (no offence to any marketing people here

intended!).

> Thanks Judith/Angel - your're good at this !!!!!

> >

>

[Guest guest]

This paper from 2008 explains 's reasoning:

Free Triiodothyronine Has a Distinct Circadian Rhythm That Is Delayed but Parallels Thyrotropin Levels

http://jcem.endojournals.org/content/93/6/2300.full

Bob>> Well FT3 doesn't peak at midnight - that's a medical fact.> Let's see what they think.>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for this idea Angel. I have sent a list of contact

Emails to nearly 300 thyroid support forums and thyroid web sites throughout

the world - so hopefully, he can get the word out far and wide. If you don't

try, little will be achieved.

, this is what I wanted to send you the other day, but

couldn't find it, but now I have.

Luv - Sheila

hi there, try typing in google all the states in america, plus

thyroid groups. IE: new york thyroid group/ Etc; and see what comes up. i

believe that their are groups in most states.also post on mary shoman`s site

for a list. umm http://www.about.com/thyroid. angel.

[Guest guest]

Hi , ive passed all these messages onto Diane i will let you know what she

is thinking.

Cheers

Steve

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> Steve,

>

> You should warn Dianne that there are some clarifications I've made that may

run contrary to some deeply held views BUT they don't run contrary to their

overall protocol.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi

Steve - it will be interesting to know what Val and say. In this

business, we all have to keep an open mind and listen to others who have

different ideas to our own, especially if they have references to research and

studies. It is essential that we all keep an open mind because many of our

members have been left stuck with doctors who refuse to give their patients a diagnosis

if their thyroid function test results are within the reference range, who pay scant

attention to what their patients say about their symptoms or signs, refuse to

listen to their patients story re family history, refuse them a thorough a

clinical examination and refuse to check the latest research.

It

is the number one aim of all such owners of health support groups to help their

members, but it is vital that they get the detail right, i.e. in this

case, what research have they checked into circadian rhythm of T4/T3 and

cortisol and what is the connection between their peaking at different times

during the day. Perhaps you could pass the following link on to Val and

in case they have not seen it http://jcem.endojournals.org/content/93/6/2300.full

Luv

- Sheila

Hi pureT3paul I have spoken with Dianne from

the the same one as val ect, she is going to purchase a copy and

have a read through. Then im guessing if/and when they approve of it, it will

more than likely be all over the American which Val runs.

But that being said i guess what you have actually wrote in the book will

depend on how much it is advertised on vals . As you have mentioned

a couple of things in the past which go against what Val reccommends, but Val's

number one aim is to help people. So if she does indeed take to your idea of

early morning dosing instead of what they believe at the minute of FT3 peaking

at midnight.

Diane was very interested, so i guess time will tell over the next few weeks

once people have had a chance to read!

Steve

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[Guest guest]

Hi Shiela, Diane is very interested and i believe Ann from the RT3 has already

recieved her copy of s book so there should be some discussion coming soon,

diane's book is due to arrive any day soon as with mine.

You are right and i know that diane/val has the number one aim to help people

and not to think that there exact way is the exact way for everyone.

I've put paul and diane in direct contact with each other so they can discuss

the book(they both asked for this to happen).

If diane and Val do like the book then ALOT more people benefit if its

recommended to be read and discussed throughout there forums.

Steve

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> Hi Steve - it will be interesting to know what Val and say.

[Guest guest]

Forgot to mention i have passed the link on also Shiela, and i am living proof

that the cardiac rhythm works. As i went back on adrenal support HC/Florinef for

two weeks while i started my anti fungals and i stopped the early morning

dosing. Then i moved my dose back to early morning (3:30am works best for me)

and i no longer need my adrenal meds that very same morning of moving my dose

back to 3:30.

Steve