Re: Re: China - Fruit

[Guest guest]

I imagine there is a difference in the ones you used to have and the ones she

eats in China. The soil and variety can make a difference. A friend of mine from

the Phoenix area once said she wouldn't eat grapefruit but once a year when her

dad sent her and her family a box, because of the difference in taste. Texas

grapefruit and Arizona grapefruit just tasted so different, that it wasn't worth

buying theTexas ones.

Re: China - Fruit

The thing about kumquats is that they are opposite of an orange. Sweet rind,

delicious to

eat and add to recipes, and a sour juice that is great squeezed into a glass

of mineral

water. I used to love a couple squeezed into a vodka and tonic (avoid).

>

> Kumquat - Looks like a small orange. I don't know if you can ever get these

at an

Oriental grocery in Canada or the USA. I buy them here, you eat them peel and

all. The

article says they are tart, but I found the round ones sweet enough for me and

the oval

ones quite sweet. The people in China believe they are 'like a medicine', and

I buy them

from the local fruit markets whenever I see them.

>

> http://www.eatingchina.com/

>

> The fruit in China is seasonal. Starting about 10 days ago it is pineapple

season. They

sell small pineapples at all the fruit stands. They peel and de-eye them for

you and put in

a bag. You can eat even the core as it is so tender. They are extremely

sweet and not

'acid'y' like the ones we buy in Canada. They are also a lot smaller then the

ones we buy in

Canada. I can eat a whole small pineapple in an afternoon. The real small

ones I can eat in

'one sitting'. The real small ones are no larger then if you make a fist

then wrap your

other hand around it, but maybe a little taller. I know we shouldn't eat

really sweet fruit,

but this is like ambrosia - it is soooo good, and fresh.

>

> I spent the morning walking in a park, the cherry blossoms were out and the

tulips were

blooming. Two weeks ago was Plum blossom festival when all the plum trees

were in

blossom. It is really beautiful in China. I am really enjoying myself here,

even though I

can't follow the diet closely (I don't always know what is in the food I eat.

I eat a LOT of

green vegetables which I love - sometimes 3X/day. I also eat a lot of tofu,

as it is in a lot

of dishes they make. Pork is very common and chicken next in frequency. Beef

we get

occasionally unless I go to a 'western type restaurant'. Duck is more common

than beef

also.

>

> I am flying back to Canada in early July and plan on coming back to China

next year.

>

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[Guest guest]

Where are you? We don't in SE Oklahoma. But then we are just now starting to get

in 8 to 10 organic fruits and vegetables at a time to choose from.

Re: China - Fruit

I doubt it. A kumquat is a kumquat is a kumquat. I'm sure the soil and

rainfall make a

slight difference but that's it. A kumquat has a sweet rind and a sour pulp.

We just pop-

em-in over here. We get bags and bags of them every year. Delish!

> >

> > Kumquat - Looks like a small orange. I don't know if you can ever get

these at an

> Oriental grocery in Canada or the USA. I buy them here, you eat them peel

and all.

The

> article says they are tart, but I found the round ones sweet enough for me

and the oval

> ones quite sweet. The people in China believe they are 'like a medicine',

and I buy

them

> from the local fruit markets whenever I see them.

> >

> > http://www.eatingchina.com/

> >

> > The fruit in China is seasonal. Starting about 10 days ago it is

pineapple season.

They

> sell small pineapples at all the fruit stands. They peel and de-eye them

for you and

put in

> a bag. You can eat even the core as it is so tender. They are extremely

sweet and not

> 'acid'y' like the ones we buy in Canada. They are also a lot smaller then

the ones we

buy in

> Canada. I can eat a whole small pineapple in an afternoon. The real small

ones I can

eat in

> 'one sitting'. The real small ones are no larger then if you make a fist

then wrap your

> other hand around it, but maybe a little taller. I know we shouldn't eat

really sweet

fruit,

> but this is like ambrosia - it is soooo good, and fresh.

> >

> > I spent the morning walking in a park, the cherry blossoms were out and

the tulips

were

> blooming. Two weeks ago was Plum blossom festival when all the plum trees

were in

> blossom. It is really beautiful in China. I am really enjoying myself

here, even though I

> can't follow the diet closely (I don't always know what is in the food I

eat. I eat a LOT

of

> green vegetables which I love - sometimes 3X/day. I also eat a lot of

tofu, as it is in a

lot

> of dishes they make. Pork is very common and chicken next in frequency.

Beef we get

> occasionally unless I go to a 'western type restaurant'. Duck is more

common than

beef

> also.

> >

> > I am flying back to Canada in early July and plan on coming back to

China next year.

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

domsmum2000 wrote:

> I doubt it. A kumquat is a kumquat is a kumquat.

They grow well in South Africa, yummy stuff. All citrus plants do

exceptionally well there and there is a lot of citrus research to

develop new crosses between various citrus fruits. They export pure

juice with no preservatives world-wide (brand name Ceres pronounced

seer-ees in case you've seen it in the grocery stores. Ceres is the SA

city at the center of the fuit/citrus farming part of the country.)

But depending whether kumquats are sun-ripened on the tree or off the

tree - the sweetness inside varies quite a bit. - sweeter if

tree-ripened in sunshine. Sun makes a difference.

Soil also makes a difference to plants, flavour, etc. In USA the soil is

a pH of 7 or 8 generally. In SA the soil is pH of 5.2 and the chemistry

of plants does change according to soil pH as different things in the

soil dissolve at different pH.

For example some things are a LOT more toxic - like Oleander for

example. It's toxic anywhere - but in SA you're dead in 20 minutes just

picking a leaf - and there are many who die from this plant annually -

people and animals.

Namaste,

Irene

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P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

Proverb:Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it.

[Guest guest]

And here in Florida, the Oleander grow on the sides of the

road/highway- just about anywhere. Not sure why they use it as an

ornamental tree- if it burns, the smoke can kill you. Believe me, it

isn't in MY yard.

Interesting info about the citrus. I live in 'citrus country' myself,

being in Central Florida.

> For example some things are a LOT more toxic - like Oleander for

> example. It's toxic anywhere - but in SA you're dead in 20 minutes just

> picking a leaf - and there are many who die from this plant annually -

> people and animals.

[Guest guest]

Wendi wrote:

> And here in Florida, the Oleander grow on the sides of the

> road/highway- just about anywhere. Not sure why they use it as an

> ornamental tree- if it burns, the smoke can kill you. Believe me, it

> isn't in MY yard.

It's " beautifully deadly " . In South Africa they planted them all between

the two directions of freeway to look good - which indeed they do, in a

range of evergreen with pink, white or red flowers - and people who had

car or motorbike accidents would land in them, survive the crash, and

die from an Oleander scratch.

So someone got it declared a noxious weed - which lasted a very short

time till the " powers than be " figured the cost of removal and how

unpretty it would look. So they are still there.

But as you say - not in MY yard - either in SA or in Sarasota when I

was there.

> Interesting info about the citrus. I live in 'citrus country' myself,

> being in Central Florida.

I miss the lovely grapefruit I had there. I moved here in 1998 to be

closer to my grandchildren and if I had hindsight I'd have stayed

there:-)) I was not there for long but loved it.

Namaste,

Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc, AASCA, MCSSA, D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.

P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

Proverb:Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it.

[Guest guest]

We had an enormous grapefruit tree. One year we estimated 2000

grapefruit the size of cantaloupe!!! We had alot of rain early on that

year, so they grew really big. Unfortunately, my dh has heart disease

(a heart attack at 34 years old) and can't eat grapefruit, and I can

only eat so much grapefruit in a season. They were ruby reds, and the

neighbors would pick them all season. It was a sentinel tree for the

Agricultural department, and a very lovely tree. But no one could

reach the top, and we would have to pay to have them removed. Or they

would fall, and the critters would eat them. We ended up having to

have the tree removed, due to the fruit debris, and the fact that we

needed to be able to pull our camper into our side yard and the tree

prevented it from being driven by. It was a sad day the day it was

taken down, and my neighbors were upset with us (their son had planted

it from a seedling). But the tree was old, and almost at the end of

its producing cycle (the last few years, it really declined). But I do

miss that old grapefruit tree. We also had a tangelo, and a peach

tree. They both quit putting out fruit eventually, but it was nice

while it lasted.

I remember eating kumquats when I was a kid. I remember thinking it

was odd that we ate the peel. And they were pretty sour, but not so

bad you couldn't eat them. Not very big either. I never see them any

more, not even in the stores. Wonder why?

Sarasota, eh? I know just where that is. I am 45 minutes north of

downtown Orlando. Great place, but I long to live out West. I have my

eye on some property in Colorado, that I may just have to make my own

soon :-)

I miss the lovely grapefruit I had there. I moved here in 1998 to be

> closer to my grandchildren and if I had hindsight I'd have stayed

> there:-)) I was not there for long but loved it.

[Guest guest]

interesting you guys are and were from central fl. (Sarasota) I grew up in

Bradenton then moved to tampa. I had a dog eat that plant leaf before and

almost died. By the way to the person from Sarasota, do you know ANYONE that

went to Bayshore highschool in Bradenton that had any type of cancer,children

with birthdefects, or leukemia? If so I have very important contact info for

you. They would have attended anytime from the 1970's to 1999.........

Irene de Villiers <furryboots@...> wrote:

Wendi wrote:

> And here in Florida, the Oleander grow on the sides of the

> road/highway- just about anywhere. Not sure why they use it as an

> ornamental tree- if it burns, the smoke can kill you. Believe me, it

> isn't in MY yard.

It's " beautifully deadly " . In South Africa they planted them all between

the two directions of freeway to look good - which indeed they do, in a

range of evergreen with pink, white or red flowers - and people who had

car or motorbike accidents would land in them, survive the crash, and

die from an Oleander scratch.

So someone got it declared a noxious weed - which lasted a very short

time till the " powers than be " figured the cost of removal and how

unpretty it would look. So they are still there.

But as you say - not in MY yard - either in SA or in Sarasota when I

was there.

> Interesting info about the citrus. I live in 'citrus country' myself,

> being in Central Florida.

I miss the lovely grapefruit I had there. I moved here in 1998 to be

closer to my grandchildren and if I had hindsight I'd have stayed

there:-)) I was not there for long but loved it.

Namaste,

Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc, AASCA, MCSSA, D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.

P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

Proverb:Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it.

[Guest guest]

I just happened to see organic kumquats at the store and tried a couple.

Interesting, but I don't think I'll get any more. I wasn't prepared for the

seeds.

Re: China - Fruit

Wow, Irene. We have Oleanders in the yard, lots of them. We do know of their

toxicity and

we don't burn them with the rest of the yard clippings. I had no idea their

toxicity varied

but it certainly makes sense.

We grow great citrus here in Tucson, AZ too. We have lots of citrus in our

yard, both fruit-

producing and some grown from seed that don't produce fruit but are fun to

cultivate

butterflies on.

All of our kumquats are sun-ripened, of course. No problem with sunshine

here! My kids

love them although I've only found a couple of good recipes for them. The

kumquat

preserves go fast in our house!

> > I doubt it. A kumquat is a kumquat is a kumquat.

>

> They grow well in South Africa, yummy stuff. All citrus plants do

> exceptionally well there and there is a lot of citrus research to

> develop new crosses between various citrus fruits. They export pure

> juice with no preservatives world-wide (brand name Ceres pronounced

> seer-ees in case you've seen it in the grocery stores. Ceres is the SA

> city at the center of the fuit/citrus farming part of the country.)

>

> But depending whether kumquats are sun-ripened on the tree or off the

> tree - the sweetness inside varies quite a bit. - sweeter if

> tree-ripened in sunshine. Sun makes a difference.

>

> Soil also makes a difference to plants, flavour, etc. In USA the soil is

> a pH of 7 or 8 generally. In SA the soil is pH of 5.2 and the chemistry

> of plants does change according to soil pH as different things in the

> soil dissolve at different pH.

>

> For example some things are a LOT more toxic - like Oleander for

> example. It's toxic anywhere - but in SA you're dead in 20 minutes just

> picking a leaf - and there are many who die from this plant annually -

> people and animals.

>

> Namaste,

> Irene

> --

> Irene de Villiers, B.Sc, AASCA, MCSSA, D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.

> P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

> www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

> Proverb:Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it.

>

[Guest guest]

domsmum2000 <mikendomsmum@...> wrote:

All of our kumquats are sun-ripened, of course. No problem with sunshine here!

My kids

love them although I've only found a couple of good recipes for them. The

kumquat

preserves go fast in our house!

There was a receipe for making a tea with them on that site I gave. The

receipe could also be used as a medicine for chest congestion and phlem, but I

would imagine it would be good just to drink and enjoy.

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[Guest guest]

domsmum2000 wrote:

> The kumquat preserves go fast in our house!

That's the most popular use in SA too, also in chutneys and curries

instead of apricots or mango, or in addition.

Namaste,

Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc, AASCA, MCSSA, D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.

P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

Proverb:Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it.