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psst, hey you, look into the photos section...shocking, simply

shocking.

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> I too am shocked and disappointed that since I joined this group a

> few weeks ago I have heard about just about everything except Beck-

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thank you!! couldn't have said it better. everyone wants that quick fix.. well if it worked for you it must work for me.. sometimes it is just not that simple.

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Gerson's Treatment is great, but it

really requires a full time assistant to prepare the juices and

veggies... along with some excellent sources of produce. Advance

versions of Royal Rife's device should also be quite helpful, but cost

thousands of dollars. Beck's device is the cheapest and easiest,

though is apparently the least proven in this area. Rife proved that

cancers are all accompanied by viruses. With the help of his Universal

Microscope (with his powerful optical microscope he observed and

photographed them). From

that, he convincingly

proved that, if he destroyed them, the cancer disappeared. If you

watch the Rife video, you know that this man was onto something. If

you have the funds and help, all three modalities combined should make

cancer less a problem than an enduring cold. However, there are plenty

of other nutrients that have been proven helpful that should not

conflict with any of this. Watch the two part Google series, a wise

cancer survivor tells his story and how you can cure cancer with diet

as he did or avoid it before it can gain a foothold:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8841234327210711547 & q=magnesium+duration%3Along

Then watch the G. Griffen's video:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4312930190281243507 & q=healing+foods & hl=en

which proves with convincing data that cancer is a chronic nitriloside

(vitamin B-17 or Laetrile) and enzyme deficiency disease. This video

has to affect your attitude in this regard. It is a well and

carefully documented study. If certain native populations such as the

Hunza'a have a high B-17 diet and none have cancer, you have to

consider the point. After you watch these two videos, you will see

that they agree in every way in terms of the basic nutritional theory

even though they are far apart in their methods and attitudes.

Now, scan http://www.bccancer.bc.ca/PPI/UnconventionalTherapies/LaetrileAmygdalinVitaminB17SarcarcinaseNitriloside.htm

and you will see that the Griffen video endorses the vitamin theory as

opposed to the cyanide (poison) theory. Other than this explanation,

this page should basically be discredited. This website carries the

reference Dr. Herbert Barrett... our friend the quack watcher. When

you see his name in the references... be wary. Barrett is entrenched

as the enemy of all natural cures. His page, "Quackwatch" is

dedicated to the same mindset as the "Amazing" Randi which it

references. You can bet that he lists Rife, Gerson, and Beck as

quacks along with any others that would be mentioned on these

group pages.

Finally, even if the Griffen documentary is correct, this does not

prove that Rife was incorrect... both conditions may always coexist

before the disease can take hold. Gerson and Rife cured nearly all of

their advanced cancer patients which were beyond the help of other

modalities. Moreover, Rife and Beck were brilliant in their own way

and once you know their stories, it is hard to dispute their work.

Also, even if a B-17 deficiency is always the underlying cause for

cancer, it may not be the correct cure in many cases. Given the

horrible record of allopathic cancer cures (?) which rely on x-rays and

derivatives of mustard gas, almost anything is better. Furthermore,

in at least some cases, doing nothing will save your life.

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what was wrong with you that troditonal healing couldn't do for you?shantigirl38@... wrote: All I can say is I am sure there are folks out there who have had success. I know personally speaking I have and again all I can do is share this information that I have with those in my immediate circle of people who I encounter. I have no issues with sharing because I believe whatever path you choose for healing.. it is all of our right.. not just a select

few. When I went the traditional route to healing I was told there was not a whole lot they could do for me so I had to create and follow my own path.. every day I am so thankful I chose the path I did!! Every single day!! __________________________________________________

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I'm confused. I did get to hear and visit with Bob Beck for a couple of days when he visited Seattle. I was one of his escorts and I pushed him around in a wheel chair and chatted frequently with him regarding protocol and the devices. He advocated that each and everyone of us take back the power to heal ourselves. I have the magnetic pulsar as well as the Silver pulsar. I have use both as a preventive and find myself in good health at age 58 after much abuse over the years and a poor diet. I followed the protocol and didn't really need someone else's input as the application and results was a personal matter and responsibility.

With all the legal mumbo jumbo in attack mode, most researchers have been forced to stay underground in order to heal and stay well. The stress of a legal wrangling will reverse any benefits and could bring on a relapse. I'm sure that you are aware of the impact that stress has in the causation of disease.

Again I'm confused that no one has chimed in with a positive result for treating their cancer while including the Beck protocol as one of their treatment modalities. I have notice that their is little sharing about helpful hints regarding the one personal application and administration of devices. By this I mean, placement of electrodes that has worked best in individual cases resulting in a positive treatment experience. Since the beginning the beck protocol suggested " Sharing from the heart ", was inclusive to the protocol. I don't think you will find the positive results you are looking for if you don't want to do the work and take the chances your self. If after your examination you find the majority of forum members are selfish or only using the site to promote or redirect the sick to another product purely for economic strategy then be wise and make a personal decision to focus elsewhere for information.

Again, it would be nice to hear more from people that are using the devises and can "Share from the heart." I have a friend that has stage IV cancer and I would love to hear more from people that have been successful against this hideous disease. If people are paying good money for these products and not experiencing any benefits that they can post here, then that would make one wonder if enough information has been retain in our community since Bob Beck's death. After all, this is one of two groups that we are directed to (goggle) after purchasing Beck Blood Electrification products. If I was just hearing of these product with the limited participation regarding application that is found here, I probably would not purchase any of the products. I consider myself very lucky to have looked into Bob's eye's as he spoke of the truths of his research. As a researcher of the Beck protocol I feel that I am following beck example and taking back my power.

I include a lot of modalities for staying healthy as well as healing. Including, Ayurveda, Yoga, Traditional Chinese herbal and acupuncture, diet and nutrition, lifestyle, stress reduction, magnetic's, Beck, Rife, Chiropractic, massage and more.

Anyway, good luck with your research and do post questions or results of application within your research.

Good luck on your journey,

Vester

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very well put and couldn't be said better Grimm <grimmmusic@...> wrote: I personally don't want to hear about anything other than how the Beck protocol has helped cancer victims. I've done endless hours of research on every alternative method out there so I don't need to get links to things I've already read and researched about or anything that requires more of my time studying, telling my friend about and giving him yet more false hope. He needs something today to sink his

teeth into and believe in. The doctors haven't done that and I honestly thought this was it. Beck is convincing enough in his videos but why can't I find one single person to talk with that had cancer, used this regimen and is now cancer free? Soto in Canada was very vague about any benefits. They even refused to tell me who distributed the devices in Calif. - just told me to "do a search on google." I finally found someone to sell me one. He could give me no positive feedback, again was very blase and vague. I wondered why he was selling them if he had nothing to tell me. I know there are politics involved in alternative methods but there must be someone who's willing to go out on a limb and talk about their experience. Beck was willing - where is anyone that can help or carry on what he started?AMOS LARKINS II

<amoslarkinsii > wrote: I'm sure that this site has help and informed many people on many different therapies but the reason i came here was because i thought i would meet more people who have more experience on the beck protocolshantigirl38aol wrote: I also believe that there has been other useful information that has been shared not only about the Beck protocol but other types of holistic information as well. I have shared this with many of my friends and they are impressed and thankful as well. __________________________________________________

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So why didn't bob say this in his vidio bob made it sound like all you need is his protocol and it will help you if you have cancer or aids that was his who thingshantigirl38@... wrote: and just to let you know that healing from cancer or any other illness isn't about hooking up a machine and then your all better.. it is about a lifestyle change that encompasses diet, stress levels, our emotional states and so much more. __________________________________________________

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what ever you do go to that gerson site go ASAP and talk to those people that system has been proven time and time again i can't express how important it is for you to talk to these people i can honestly say that these are the only ones that i have found that are defiantly for real Grimm <grimmmusic@...> wrote: Like I said, Beck was ballsy enough to risk the consequences. Who else is going to step up to the plate? I will myself if this protocol helps my friend but I

haven't felt safe enough to experiment on him with his stage IV rectal cancer with multiple lesions in the liver and lungs. It would be nice to talk to others that have been in his shoes. That is specifically why I came here in the first place - not to discuss other methods. I've spent a solid year on cancer research alone and personally don't have any more time to research other possibilities. Aside from having two oncologists, I've set my friend up with two nutritionists, one is Dr. McDougall who's written numerous books and the other, a Kushi practitioner who's worked with celebrities ad naseum and several more that aren't rich and famous that were on death's door with cancer. I found them through exhaustive research and referrals so I am not closing my mind to other alternatives. There is just a limit to my time running two businesses, a household and taking

on pretty much everything when it comes to my friend's health including his power of attorney, cooking, laundry, etc. I'll ask once and for all, has anyone out there used the Beck protocol for cancer, do you know of anyone who has or do you know of another group I can go to where I can talk with those that have? The only thing I've heard that may be helpful after posting numerous times is from Amos (thanks for the Gerson referral. Haven't found anything on their site yet regarding Beck but will keep on looking.) shantigirl38aol wrote: Well than maybe your are closing yourself off from receiving other information that may be just as valid if not more. That is the whole

point I was trying to make that not only are you getting information on this site about Beck protocol but other important information as well. These companies cannot make any claims as to healing any type of illness without risk of imprisonment and fines. __________________________________________________

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i thopught the same thing Grimm <grimmmusic@...> wrote: Been there, done that. People are assuming other methods haven't been explored. How about ten months/three regimens of chemo, diets, supplements, trip to six clinics in Mexico (half of which were afraid to get involved), etc., etc., etc.? I am online HOURS daily and have been since his diagnosis over a year ago. I am only HERE to discuss the Beck method. That doesn't mean I'm small

minded and not willing to try or haven't already tired many things. I thought that since this group was titled "Beck-Blood-Electrification" that that is what would be discussed the majority of the time. shantigirl38aol wrote: Ahhh Mexico.. my next suggestion. __________________________________________________

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oh my god the great philosophers of our time lol"beyaRecords.com" <beyarecords@...> wrote: Hi There are 2 kinds of people I was always under the impression there were 3!:1. Those that make

things happen2. Those that watch things happen, and3. Those that wonder what happened! -- Peace and LoveUzoma __________________________________________________

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I would qualify that by saying that it may be better to do nothing other than resorting to correct feeding, hydrating and moving of the body.Jim <huuman60@...> wrote: Gerson's Treatment is great, but it really requires a full time assistant to prepare the juices and veggies... along with some excellent sources of produce. Advance versions of Royal Rife's device should also be quite helpful, but cost thousands of dollars. Beck's device is the cheapest and

easiest, though is apparently the least proven in this area. Rife proved that cancers are all accompanied by viruses. With the help of his Universal Microscope (with his powerful optical microscope he observed and photographed them). From that, he convincingly proved that, if he destroyed them, the cancer disappeared. If you watch the Rife video, you know that this man was onto something. If you have the funds and help, all three modalities combined should make cancer less a problem than an enduring cold. However, there are plenty of other nutrients that have been proven helpful that should not conflict with any of this. Watch the two part Google series, a wise cancer survivor tells his story and how you can cure cancer with diet as he did or avoid it before it can gain a foothold:http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8841234327210711547 & q=magnesium+duration%3AlongThen watch the G. Griffen's video:http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4312930190281243507 & q=healing+foods & hl=enwhich proves with convincing data that cancer is a chronic nitriloside (vitamin B-17 or Laetrile) and enzyme deficiency disease. This video has to affect your attitude in this regard. It is a well and carefully documented study. If certain native populations such as the Hunza'a have a high B-17 diet and none have cancer, you have to consider the point. After you watch these two videos, you will see that they agree in every way in terms of

the basic nutritional theory even though they are far apart in their methods and attitudes. Now, scan http://www.bccancer.bc.ca/PPI/UnconventionalTherapies/LaetrileAmygdalinVitaminB17SarcarcinaseNitriloside.htmand you will see that the Griffen video endorses the vitamin theory as opposed to the cyanide (poison) theory. Other than this explanation, this page should basically be discredited. This website carries the reference Dr. Herbert Barrett... our friend the quack watcher. When you see his name in the references... be wary. Barrett is entrenched as the enemy of all natural cures. His page, "Quackwatch" is dedicated to the same mindset as the "Amazing" Randi which it references. You

can bet that he lists Rife, Gerson, and Beck as quacks along with any others that would be mentioned on these group pages.Finally, even if the Griffen documentary is correct, this does not prove that Rife was incorrect... both conditions may always coexist before the disease can take hold. Gerson and Rife cured nearly all of their advanced cancer patients which were beyond the help of other modalities. Moreover, Rife and Beck were brilliant in their own way and once you know their stories, it is hard to dispute their work. Also, even if a B-17 deficiency is always the underlying cause for cancer, it may not be the correct cure in many cases. Given the horrible record of allopathic cancer cures (?) which rely on x-rays and derivatives of mustard gas, almost anything is better. Furthermore, in at least some cases, doing nothing will save your life.

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the problem is everyone expects someone else to do their

experimenting.

You won't try it since you aren't sure it's safe or effective?

Beck only reported what he heard from some clinic director in Mexico

about their cancer treatment using his methods. No followups were

done years later to see if they stayed well. Another story from a

lawyer who got well from cancer at age 80. That's what I've found,

that's it, and on group, a lady with

lymphoma used a blood electrifier and chemo was cancelled in a week

or two. I think it can work, but no proof exists yet. That, really

is where you should come in.

GEIPE (google it) will possibly provide you with some more info you

could use, if you weren't looking for something proven. What sub-

humans do you expect to do this first for you, so you will feel

better about it? You're no more priviledged than anyone else, and

will have to do your own pioneering like the rest of us.

bG

>> I'll ask once and for all, has anyone out there used the

Beck protocol for cancer, do you know of anyone who has or do you

know of another group I can go to where I can talk with those that

have? The only thing I've heard that may be helpful after posting

numerous times is from Amos (thanks for the Gerson referral.

Haven't found anything on their site yet regarding Beck but will

keep on looking.)

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> Good news! Growth is drying up and diminishing. Before it was

fleshy and growing and bleeding if barely touched. Now it is

smaller, although it has a ways to go, and seems to be dying off. I

am giving it 20 minutes twice a day at 130 uamps. My DH made me a

contact pad out of a piece of circuit board with a hole in it the

size of the growth. He then split the conductor so it was two halves

electrically. This way it circles almost completely around it and I

move it over to cover it at some points and turn it around to switch

the current flow. Afterwards I cover the area with a split aloe

leaf to soothe any irritation. I did try the DMSO on it one time

but that seemed to aggrevate it and the electricity diminishes it.

So good so far!

>

> Nikki

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I'm confused. I did get to hear and visit with Bob Beck for a couple of days when he visited Seattle. I was one of his escorts and I pushed him around in a wheel chair and chatted frequently with him regarding protocol and the devices. He advocated that each and everyone of us take back the power to heal ourselves. I have the magnetic pulsar as well as the Silver pulsar. I have use both as a preventive and find myself in good health at age 58 after much abuse over the years and a poor diet. I followed the protocol and didn't really need someone else's input as the application and results was a personal matter and responsibility.

With all the legal mumbo jumbo in attack mode, most researchers have been forced to stay underground in order to heal and stay well. The stress of a legal wrangling will reverse any benefits and could bring on a relapse. I'm sure that you are aware of the impact that stress has in the causation of disease.

Again I'm confused that no one has chimed in with a positive result for treating their cancer while including the Beck protocol as one of their treatment modalities. I have notice that their is little sharing about helpful hints regarding the one personal application and administration of devices. By this I mean, placement of electrodes that has worked best in individual cases resulting in a positive treatment experience. Since the beginning the beck protocol suggested " Sharing from the heart ", was inclusive to the protocol. I don't think you will find the positive results you are looking for if you don't want to do the work and take the chances your self. If after your examination you find the majority of forum members are selfish or only using the site to promote or redirect the sick to another product purely for economic strategy then be wise and make a personal decision to focus elsewhere for information.

Again, it would be nice to hear more from people that are using the devises and can "Share from the heart." I have a friend that has stage IV cancer and I would love to hear more from people that have been successful against this hideous disease. If people are paying good money for these products and not experiencing any benefits that they can post here, then that would make one wonder if enough information has been retain in our community since Bob Beck's death. After all, this is one of two groups that we are directed to (goggle) after purchasing Beck Blood Electrification products. If I was just hearing of these product with the limited participation regarding application that is found here, I probably would not purchase any of the products. I consider myself very lucky to have looked into Bob's eye's as he spoke of the truths of his research. As a researcher of the Beck protocol I feel that I am following beck example and taking back my power.

I include a lot of modalities for staying healthy as well as healing. Including, Ayurveda, Yoga, Traditional Chinese herbal and acupuncture, diet and nutrition, lifestyle, stress reduction, magnetic's, Beck, Rife, Chiropractic, massage and more.

Anyway, good luck with your research and do post questions or results of application within your research.

Good luck on your journey,

Vester

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I'm confused. I did get to hear and visit with Bob Beck for a couple of days when he visited Seattle. I was one of his escorts and I pushed him around in a wheel chair and chatted frequently with him regarding protocol and the devices. He advocated that each and everyone of us take back the power to heal ourselves. I have the magnetic pulsar as well as the Silver pulsar. I have use both as a preventive and find myself in good health at age 58 after much abuse over the years and a poor diet. I followed the protocol and didn't really need someone else's input as the application and results was a personal matter and responsibility.

With all the legal mumbo jumbo in attack mode, most researchers have been forced to stay underground in order to heal and stay well. The stress of a legal wrangling will reverse any benefits and could bring on a relapse. I'm sure that you are aware of the impact that stress has in the causation of disease.

Again I'm confused that no one has chimed in with a positive result for treating their cancer while including the Beck protocol as one of their treatment modalities. I have notice that their is little sharing about helpful hints regarding the one personal application and administration of devices. By this I mean, placement of electrodes that has worked best in individual cases resulting in a positive treatment experience. Since the beginning the beck protocol suggested " Sharing from the heart ", was inclusive to the protocol. I don't think you will find the positive results you are looking for if you don't want to do the work and take the chances your self. If after your examination you find the majority of forum members are selfish or only using the site to promote or redirect the sick to another product purely for economic strategy then be wise and make a personal decision to focus elsewhere for information.

Again, it would be nice to hear more from people that are using the devises and can "Share from the heart." I have a friend that has stage IV cancer and I would love to hear more from people that have been successful against this hideous disease. If people are paying good money for these products and not experiencing any benefits that they can post here, then that would make one wonder if enough information has been retain in our community since Bob Beck's death. After all, this is one of two groups that we are directed to (goggle) after purchasing Beck Blood Electrification products. If I was just hearing of these product with the limited participation regarding application that is found here, I probably would not purchase any of the products. I consider myself very lucky to have looked into Bob's eye's as he spoke of the truths of his research. As a researcher of the Beck protocol I feel that I am following beck example and taking back my power.

I include a lot of modalities for staying healthy as well as healing. Including, Ayurveda, Yoga, Traditional Chinese herbal and acupuncture, diet and nutrition, lifestyle, stress reduction, magnetic's, Beck, Rife, Chiropractic, massage and more.

Anyway, good luck with your research and do post questions or results of application within your research.

Good luck on your journey,

Vester

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Rife proved that attacking the virus

and killing it he attacked and killed the cancer and he did so

convincingly. By extension, the Beck device, according to Beck,

disables viruses and, if that is correct, it should logically also

attack the cancer directly. Given that people came forward and

reported that their cancer was cured... that occurs on one of Beck's

videos and he speaks of it happening on others.... again, by

extension, it makes sense that the modus operandi is through disabling

the virus.

With the information that these two gave us, anyone with cancer would

be remiss not to use this less than $200 Beck device as long as they

had symptoms, no matter what else they did. This powerful

connection can't wait for further proof if you happen to be dying of

cancer.

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