Jane's Frozen Shoulder

[Guest guest]

Jane, I do not understand what a " frozen shoulder " is. Is this an injury?

Or is it a condition like arthrits or rheumatism? We might be able to give you

pain relief advice, if we have a more clear idea of your situation.

Maybe everyone else knows what this is, but I never heard of it before.

[Guest guest]

Hi, Donnamae, and Everyone!

Here may be more than you want to know about frozen shoulder, which is the

lay term for adhesive capsulitis:

Adhesive capsulitis, or frozen shoulder, is a painful condition which

results in a severe loss of motion in the shoulder. It may follow an injury

to the shoulder, but may also arise gradually with no warning or

injury. The cause of this condition is largely a mystery. The symptoms

are primarily pain and a very reduced range of motion in the joint. The

range of motion is the same whether your are trying to move the shoulder

under your own power or if someone else is trying to raise the arm for you.

There comes a point in each direction of movement where the motion simply

stops as if there is something blocking the movement. The shoulder usually

hurts when movement reaches the limit of the range of motion, and can be

quite painful at night. Treatment of the frozen shoulder can be

frustrating and slow. Most cases will eventually improve, but it may be a

process that takes months. Initial treatment is directed at decreasing

inflammation and increasing the range of motion of the shoulder with a

stretching program. Anti-inflammatory medications may be prescribed. It

is critical that a Physical Therapy program be started and continued to

regain the loss of motion. [The previous material is copyrighted by

Medical Multiplemedia Group.]

This latest episode seems to have been caused by the proverbial " last

straw " of stress. I have been cutting out stressors and stressful

thinking, but something put me over the edge. I had an episode of adhesive

capsulitis about a year ago, and went to a D.O. for help, but something was

missing in the treatment. It just had to heal on its own. This doctor

sold me a glucosamine/chondroitin complex and some boswellin. I started

feeling worse, and traced it to the chondroitin (later read it is an O

Avoid) and the boswellin, which is supposed to be good for Os, but it isn't

good for me--it's like an allergy. So now I am taking glucosamine HCl,

Wobenzym N, and bromelain on an empty stomach, and a ginger and curcumin

formula with meals for the inflammation, plus prayer. I'm actually doing

quite better. It all started this past Thursday, and today, Saturday, I

was able to get my arm above my head for the first time. I have long hair,

and wear it up, so it just had to fly loose the last couple of days. I

need to do some PT, and the pain relief is so I can move my shoulder,

gently of course, so it won't get stuck in the down position.

Thanks to everyone who gave me suggestions and their good

wishes. Boswellin is out, and I haven't taken MSM orally, but I do put on

an MSM lotion. Arnica is good--I had forgotten about that. Massage sounds

like a winner to me. LOL.

I hope everyone is having a safe and sane Memorial Day holiday!

Jane

Tucson, AZ USA

At 12:10 PM 5/24/03 -0400, you wrote:

>Jane, I do not understand what a " frozen shoulder " is. Is this an injury?

>Or is it a condition like arthrits or rheumatism? We might be able to

>give you

>pain relief advice, if we have a more clear idea of your situation.

>

>Maybe everyone else knows what this is, but I never heard of it before.

[Guest guest]

Just do several liver flushes, and you will cure frozen shoulder.

I know at least 10 people who cured Frozen Shoulder and arm pain by

flushing liver.

Read this story

http://curezone.com/gallstones/member_Dusan_Stojkovic.asp

Agnes

[Guest guest]

Well, I have had chronic headache the past while and ND told me on thursday to

take some liver nano detox. Don't know if that cured it or not but it is gone

today. He said that chronic pain is often greatly helped by liver cleanse. I am

also doing the veggie bit and eating well.

Re: Jane's Frozen Shoulder

Just do several liver flushes, and you will cure frozen shoulder.

[Guest guest]

Nano detox is not what I am talking about.

I am talking about 1/2 cup of olive oil - full liver flush, and

flush is several times more potent that usual herbal cleansers.

Find out more here:

http://curezone.com/cleanse/liver/

[Guest guest]

Hi, Everyone!

Thanks again for your great suggestions. I really liked the suggestion to

do a liver cleanse and the recommended site. Just as soon as I come back

from my trip to Michigan and Indiana in June, I will start. I am very

sensitive to olive oil. It gives me floaters (black specks seeming to

float in front of my eyes), perhaps from the vinegar olives are pickled in

to make them edible. And I do not do well with citrus. So I thought this

cleanse was off limits for me. But in reading the site, I see I can

substitute other oils (I'm planning to use grape seed oil--then if those

little suckers in the toilet are green, I'll know it's not olive oil

soap. LOL.) I can use juice from tart/sour fruit/berries. So it looks

doable. I know I need to do it.

Thanks again for all your sharing and caring.

Jane

Tucson, AZ USA

[Guest guest]

Hi, Max!

You are absolutely right. There is no vinegar in olive oil. There is,

though, in most cured olives. It must be something in the olives

themselves that affects me. Maybe after I finish cleaning out my liver and

gallbladder, I can go back to eating all my old favorites. Nothing like a

little motivation. LOL. Thanks for you post.

Jane

Tucson (not Tuscan, alas), AZ USA

At 01:35 AM 5/26/03 -0400, you wrote:

>In a message dated 5/25/2003 10:34:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

>jwarner2@... writes:

>

><< I am very

> sensitive to olive oil. It gives me floaters (black specks seeming to

> float in front of my eyes), perhaps from the vinegar olives are pickled in

> to make them edible. >>

>Olive oil doesn't have any vinegar in it.