Guest guest Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 do you think, this ABC-special birdflu-week would have happened, if there had been no Katrina ? Of course, Katrina didn't change the likelyhood or possible impact of a pandemic but it did change public opinion towards prepping. It's strange how people here in Germany ignore the threat and avoid speaking about the pandemic, although birdflu is in the media now. They have no disaster-awareness actually and life is pretty normal. Very little on TV, newspapers - in German forums they cry: "you are just creating panic" when you just mention it. Traffic in German forums is about 1/100 of the traffic in US-forums. Something strange is going on in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 yes, but do you think it's because of Katrina or is it all about the media-guidance how aware people are of the threat ? Yes, the data from WHO etc. is out, but average people won't visit the WHO webpage. So government and TV can tell us what they want ... even in a democracy and free press. I assume, you agree that Germany is not less at risk as USA, so it doesn't make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 In einer eMail vom 14.03.2006 06:41:46 Westeuropäische Normalzeit schreibt rboylern@...: People would do well to consult their local health department or speak with their primary health care practitioner. The information is definitely widely available. Why people choose not to educate themselves is beyond me? The media would do well to keep the information in the public's attention, but at the same time the media has to avoid "we're all gonna die" headlines. so, how about "quite a lot of us might die" - headlines ? newspapers needn't lie _always_ ;-) Which US- newspapers are touching the subject correctly and appropriately ? Which do you recommend ? (wrt.pandemic) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 BTW. one pandemic-reporter had been praised often, that's Helen Branswell (or such) . I don't know the newspaper, I think Canadian, not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 In einer eMail vom 14.03.2006 09:01:27 Westeuropäische Normalzeit schreibt rboylern@...: How about "some may die"? Even though it hasn't given avian flu extensive coverage, I would think that the New York Times would do the best job of reporting. The Times shies away from hugh sensational headlines. I'd prefer something like: "for the next 2 years you are 10 times more likely to die from H5N1 than to die from normal flu" or such. OK, NYT is most objective, you think. And which newspaper has the most coverage ? I mean : maximum #{lines about pandemic} / #{all lines} Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 Thanks, Pete, for the very sensible article. Pete <pete8811@...> wrote: Here's an interesting and balanced article...http://abcnews.go.com/Health/AvianFlu/story?id=1706048 & page=1I think that we will likely see H5N1 go H2H within about 10 months orso. But I also think that it will not cause interuption of watersupplies or electricity in North America. Those services would be thehighest priority to protect. If they are allowed to go, there wouldbe far greater kaos.Pete . Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. -Dr.Seuss . It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing. - Duke Ellington . Never place a period where God has placed a comma. - Gracie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 Well, my friend, I think we in the US tend to get a bit panicked about things. I'm not sure why that happens, but it does. There's so much excellent information available about H5N1, stuff that anyone can easily understand; but people seem rather to prefer ignoring all that and waiting for the "my God! it's here" alarm bell to ring, they will then be the very ones making unreasonable demands on health care services ... the government will eventually get blamed, of course. *sigh*sterten@... wrote: do you think, this ABC-special birdflu-week would have happened, if there had been no Katrina ? Of course, Katrina didn't change the likelyhood or possible impact of a pandemic but it did change public opinion towards prepping. It's strange how people here in Germany ignore the threat and avoid speaking about the pandemic, although birdflu is in the media now. They have no disaster-awareness actually and life is pretty normal. Very little on TV, newspapers - in German forums they cry: "you are just creating panic" when you just mention it. Traffic in German forums is about 1/100 of the traffic in US-forums. Something strange is going on in the world. . Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. -Dr.Seuss . It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing. - Duke Ellington . Never place a period where God has placed a comma. - Gracie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 People would do well to consult their local health department or speak with their primary health care practitioner. The information is definitely widely available. Why people choose not to educate themselves is beyond me? The media would do well to keep the information in the public's attention, but at the same time the media has to avoid "we're all gonna die" headlines.sterten@... wrote: yes, but do you think it's because of Katrina or is it all about the media-guidance how aware people are of the threat ? Yes, the data from WHO etc. is out, but average people won't visit the WHO webpage. So government and TV can tell us what they want ... even in a democracy and free press. I assume, you agree that Germany is not less at risk as USA, so it doesn't make sense. . Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. -Dr.Seuss . It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing. - Duke Ellington . Never place a period where God has placed a comma. - Gracie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 How about "some may die"? Even though it hasn't given avian flu extensive coverage, I would think that the New York Times would do the best job of reporting. The Times shies away from hugh sensational headlines.sterten@... wrote: In einer eMail vom 14.03.2006 06:41:46 Westeuropäische Normalzeit schreibt rboylern@...: People would do well to consult their local health department or speak with their primary health care practitioner. The information is definitely widely available. Why people choose not to educate themselves is beyond me? The media would do well to keep the information in the public's attention, but at the same time the media has to avoid "we're all gonna die" headlines. so, how about "quite a lot of us might die" - headlines ? newspapers needn't lie _always_ ;-) Which US- newspapers are touching the subject correctly and appropriately ? Which do you recommend ? (wrt.pandemic) . Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. -Dr.Seuss . It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing. - Duke Ellington . Never place a period where God has placed a comma. - Gracie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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