Re: Gallbladder in or out! To Troy

[Guest guest]

Ken -

I sincerely appreciate your response. very

insightful ideas and goes to show there is a lot to

consider. my gut feeling (no pun intended) is to

leave the gallbladder there. my brain says " get back

on track as fast as possible no matter what " . that

may reflect the kind of society we live in though.

Thank you again for your detailed response. Good luck!

Troy

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[Guest guest]

>>1) We didn't evolve and God gave it to us to help with our

digestion. <<

I respect your opinion, but please do not present it as fact. Not all of us

are of this opinion, some of us believe in evolution, and not in a god.

This is not a place to be expounding one's religious beliefs.

Your truth is a wonderful thing which guides you in YOUR life, but please

respect that your truth is not everyone's.

Thank you for listening.

Debra

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[Guest guest]

I agree with you Debra. Nothing against anyone's

belief in God, I too have certain beliefs and

philosophies of the universe, but this isn't the forum

to bring them up. so...where can I get some GCG???

-T

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[Guest guest]

>> If you are having gallbladder problems it is because you have a

diseased gallbladder better out than in... 5% of people? OR you are

receiving warning signs from your body that it is not happy with the

fuel you are putting into it and the way you are caring for it.

Yes, the quick fix is the easiest, but it is usually not the best<<

I guess I am one of the few that falls into the " other " category. I have

put up with this pain for almost a year, to no avail. I am 5'4 " , 94 lbs.

(lost weight due to this pain - I was 110 lbs. when this started); I'm a

vegan; my cholesterol is 160; LDL is 80; HDL is 68; and triglycerides are

71. Yet my gallbladder is sludgy and spits its contents back into my

stomach.

Fortunately I don't have stones, but I am a new mom and cannot function

feeling sick all of the time. I have tried everything. I may have to have

it out as soon as next week since this thing sent me to the hospital several

times last week. I don't have " attacks " - I have pain all day long, every

day. It's just not worth it to me anymore.

-Ann

[Guest guest]

Hi Ann...

Can you be more specific on your symptoms... It could be that you do

not have a gallbladder problem... Constant pain.... where?

Constant stomach pain and indigestion can be many things... My wife

suffered these problems for many years... including a constant

fatigue. She was diagnosed by 12 out of 28 doctors as " chronic

fatigue " a nice label, but turned out to be untrue.

Five years into the disease a doctor finally ordered a stool test.

We sent stools to UCLA and Great Smokies Lab. UCLA for one parasite

and G-S found three. Although most doctors believe these parasites

to cause no symptoms... newer research showed that that indeed

everything she had came from the parasites.

She responded immediately to the drugs... but they came back 3-4

times. Now she is free after many years of struggles...

They say that more than 300,000 Americans are sufferring with

parasite pain in their stomachs are are being misdiagnosed...

Good Luck...

ken

[Guest guest]

Ken,

could you be more specific as to what parasites were

actually found? They found " Iodamoeba butschlii " in

me, said to be non pathogenic. but then, a few years

ago they also thought Giardia lambia was non

pathogenic, which leads me to believe they (western

medicine) operate on a " not harmful unless proven

above and beyond a reasonable doubt " basis. who knows

what else I have that wasn't detected but I'm

attempting to persistently follow an herbal anti

parasite program in addition to the gallstone and

liver cleansing.

troy

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[Guest guest]

on 10/9/00 7:35 PM, jonathan hull at hulltroy@... wrote:

> Ken,

>

> could you be more specific as to what parasites were

> actually found? They found " Iodamoeba butschlii " in

> me, said to be non pathogenic. but then, a few years

> ago they also thought Giardia lambia was non

> pathogenic, which leads me to believe they (western

> medicine) operate on a " not harmful unless proven

> above and beyond a reasonable doubt " basis. who knows

> what else I have that wasn't detected but I'm

> attempting to persistently follow an herbal anti

> parasite program in addition to the gallstone and

> liver cleansing.

>

> troy

Here's one place I have been through the wringer.

Ten years ago, I became deathly ill - nobody could figure it out.

I could barely talk above a whisper - if I tried to sit on the couch the

body would literally fall over to the side - I would take a bite of food,

strangle for half and hour and then try another bite.

I was diagnosed with liver flukes, blastocystis hominis, dientamoeba

fragillis and klebsiella pnumoniae. I took flagyl and iodoquinnol (sp?) and

got double dosed by accident. Lost my bile function for three weeks and then

when the bile normalized, I felt better than I had since a child for three

weeks. At the end of three weeks, all the symptoms returned (because the

encysted eggs hatched) and I have had the symptoms ( not as acute as before)

ever since.

I am presently doing Hulda's parasite cleanse using the freeze dried hulls

instead of the extract because it is supposed to be much stronger. Am doing

so many things for next sixty days - our home resembles a mexican cancer

clinic! Happy to share daily schedule with anyone interested.

All I can say is that we have reached a point here where we are more

determined than ever to take another major leap with our health.

By the way - I was also diagnosed with entamoeba hystolitica.

All of these docs say do lttle or nothing - I disagree - my life has been

hell for ten years.

g'nite

michael

[Guest guest]

Would love to have your daily schedule.

Sherry

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Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 8:46 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Gallbladder in or out! To Troy

> on 10/9/00 7:35 PM, jonathan hull at hulltroy@... wrote:

>

> > Ken,

> >

> > could you be more specific as to what parasites were

> > actually found? They found " Iodamoeba butschlii " in

> > me, said to be non pathogenic. but then, a few years

> > ago they also thought Giardia lambia was non

> > pathogenic, which leads me to believe they (western

> > medicine) operate on a " not harmful unless proven

> > above and beyond a reasonable doubt " basis. who knows

> > what else I have that wasn't detected but I'm

> > attempting to persistently follow an herbal anti

> > parasite program in addition to the gallstone and

> > liver cleansing.

> >

> > troy

>

>

> Here's one place I have been through the wringer.

> Ten years ago, I became deathly ill - nobody could figure it out.

> I could barely talk above a whisper - if I tried to sit on the couch the

> body would literally fall over to the side - I would take a bite of food,

> strangle for half and hour and then try another bite.

>

> I was diagnosed with liver flukes, blastocystis hominis, dientamoeba

> fragillis and klebsiella pnumoniae. I took flagyl and iodoquinnol (sp?)

and

> got double dosed by accident. Lost my bile function for three weeks and

then

> when the bile normalized, I felt better than I had since a child for three

> weeks. At the end of three weeks, all the symptoms returned (because the

> encysted eggs hatched) and I have had the symptoms ( not as acute as

before)

> ever since.

>

> I am presently doing Hulda's parasite cleanse using the freeze dried hulls

> instead of the extract because it is supposed to be much stronger. Am

doing

> so many things for next sixty days - our home resembles a mexican cancer

> clinic! Happy to share daily schedule with anyone interested.

>

> All I can say is that we have reached a point here where we are more

> determined than ever to take another major leap with our health.

>

> By the way - I was also diagnosed with entamoeba hystolitica.

> All of these docs say do lttle or nothing - I disagree - my life has been

> hell for ten years.

>

> g'nite

>

> michael

>

>

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