Guest guest Posted October 28, 2006 Report Share Posted October 28, 2006 Does anyone take these from Nature's Sunshine? A lady recommended them to me and said she took them during pregnancy. They do have ginger in them, and that does worry me. This seems like a lot of herbs unfamiliar to me, I'm not sure what they are and if they are safe. LIVER BALANCE, CHINESE Liver Balance, Chinese [Digestive, Nervous] is a Chinese combination of 12 herbs designed to support the needs of a stressed wood constitution. The Chinese call this formula tiao he, which can be translated to mean " harmonizing. " In Traditional Chinese Medicine, it is used to support both the digestive and nervous systems, optimizing liver health and reducing stress. Its primary herbs-scute, peony, bupleurum and atractylodes-have been used traditionally to maintain normal nervous system function during mental stress and support the upper digestive system during tension and distress. It contains: Bupleurum root Peony root Typhonium flagelliforme Cinnamon twig Dang gui root Fushen plant Scute root Zhishi fruit Atractylodes rhizome Panax ginseng root Ginger rhizome Licorice root Take 4 capsules with a meal twice daily. Psalm 127:3 Lo, children are an heritage of the LORD: and the fruit of the womb is his reward. 4 As arrows are in the hand of a mighty man; so are children of the youth. 5 Happy is the man that hath his quiver full of them: they shall not be ashamed, but they shall speak with the enemies in the gate. Proverbs 3: 5-6 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. Happy moments, PRAISE GOD. Difficult moments, SEEK GOD. Quiet moments, WORSHIP GOD Painful moments, TRUST GOD. Every moment, THANK GOD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2006 Report Share Posted October 28, 2006 chinese herbs are very strong.. you have to be careful please read information on liver health at www.weightcontroldoctor.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Traci gallstones Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 2:15 PM Subject: Chinese Liver balance? Does anyone take these from Nature's Sunshine? A lady recommended them to me and said she took them during pregnancy. They do have ginger in them, and that does worry me. This seems like a lot of herbs unfamiliar to me, I'm not sure what they are and if they are safe. LIVER BALANCE, CHINESE Liver Balance, Chinese [Digestive, Nervous] is a Chinese combination of 12 herbs designed to support the needs of a stressed wood constitution. The Chinese call this formula tiao he, which can be translated to mean " harmonizing. " In Traditional Chinese Medicine, it is used to support both the digestive and nervous systems, optimizing liver health and reducing stress. Its primary herbs-scute, peony, bupleurum and atractylodes-have been used traditionally to maintain normal nervous system function during mental stress and support the upper digestive system during tension and distress. It contains: Bupleurum root Peony root Typhonium flagelliforme Cinnamon twig Dang gui root Fushen plant Scute root Zhishi fruit Atractylodes rhizome Panax ginseng root Ginger rhizome Licorice root Take 4 capsules with a meal twice daily. Psalm 127:3 Lo, children are an heritage of the LORD: and the fruit of the womb is his reward. 4 As arrows are in the hand of a mighty man; so are children of the youth. 5 Happy is the man that hath his quiver full of them: they shall not be ashamed, but they shall speak with the enemies in the gate. Proverbs 3: 5-6 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. Happy moments, PRAISE GOD. Difficult moments, SEEK GOD. Quiet moments, WORSHIP GOD Painful moments, TRUST GOD. Every moment, THANK GOD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 Chinese herbs are no stronger than any other herbs on the planet. All indigenous herbal healing methods contain very strong herbs. All the herbs in this formula are very safe. Harmonizing is the most used treatment method in TCM, and also the least forceful. Why would ginger worry you? Nature's sunshine is a network marketing company. People who get involved tend to be a bit zealous sometimes. You should be able to find a similar patent formula at your chinese herb store for a fraction of the cost. -Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: Toni Chester<mailto:tonichester@...> gallstones <mailto:gallstones > Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 10:49 AM Subject: Re: Chinese Liver balance? chinese herbs are very strong.. you have to be careful please read information on liver health at www.weightcontroldoctor.com<http://www.weightcontroldoctor.com/> ----- Original Message ----- From: Traci gallstones <mailto:gallstones > Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 2:15 PM Subject: Chinese Liver balance? Does anyone take these from Nature's Sunshine? A lady recommended them to me and said she took them during pregnancy. They do have ginger in them, and that does worry me. This seems like a lot of herbs unfamiliar to me, I'm not sure what they are and if they are safe. LIVER BALANCE, CHINESE Liver Balance, Chinese [Digestive, Nervous] is a Chinese combination of 12 herbs designed to support the needs of a stressed wood constitution. The Chinese call this formula tiao he, which can be translated to mean " harmonizing. " In Traditional Chinese Medicine, it is used to support both the digestive and nervous systems, optimizing liver health and reducing stress. Its primary herbs-scute, peony, bupleurum and atractylodes-have been used traditionally to maintain normal nervous system function during mental stress and support the upper digestive system during tension and distress. It contains: Bupleurum root Peony root Typhonium flagelliforme Cinnamon twig Dang gui root Fushen plant Scute root Zhishi fruit Atractylodes rhizome Panax ginseng root Ginger rhizome Licorice root Take 4 capsules with a meal twice daily. Psalm 127:3 Lo, children are an heritage of the LORD: and the fruit of the womb is his reward. 4 As arrows are in the hand of a mighty man; so are children of the youth. 5 Happy is the man that hath his quiver full of them: they shall not be ashamed, but they shall speak with the enemies in the gate. Proverbs 3: 5-6 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. Happy moments, PRAISE GOD. Difficult moments, SEEK GOD. Quiet moments, WORSHIP GOD Painful moments, TRUST GOD. Every moment, THANK GOD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 Well the only reason I am worried about ginger is because in my Prescription for Nutritional Healing book and various places on the internet it says to avoid ginger if you have gallstones. Then after not having an attack for 3 weeks I took new vitamins that had ginger juice in them and had 3 attacks, 7 attacks since then in 3 days. In fact I just got back from the hospital. The attacks were just coming too often and worrying me - I Was in tears half the day from the pain. Nothing is inflamed or infected, I got my ultrasound. The guy said I had A LOT of stones, and I asked how many - he counted and there were only 24. I Was expecting him to say 100 or more. There were only 24 small ones. -----Original Message----- From: gallstones [mailto:gallstones ] On Behalf Of Dave Shelden Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 6:24 PM gallstones Subject: Re: Chinese Liver balance? Chinese herbs are no stronger than any other herbs on the planet. All indigenous herbal healing methods contain very strong herbs. All the herbs in this formula are very safe. Harmonizing is the most used treatment method in TCM, and also the least forceful. Why would ginger worry you? Nature's sunshine is a network marketing company. People who get involved tend to be a bit zealous sometimes. You should be able to find a similar patent formula at your chinese herb store for a fraction of the cost. -Dave FOR yourself! Have a nice day ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 PS..the sonographer, said that's a lot of stones....he doesn't usually see that many. It was only 24??????? -----Original Message----- From: gallstones [mailto:gallstones ] On Behalf Of Traci Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 7:00 PM gallstones Subject: RE: Chinese Liver balance? Well the only reason I am worried about ginger is because in my Prescription for Nutritional Healing book and various places on the internet it says to avoid ginger if you have gallstones. Then after not having an attack for 3 weeks I took new vitamins that had ginger juice in them and had 3 attacks, 7 attacks since then in 3 days. In fact I just got back from the hospital. The attacks were just coming too often and worrying me - I Was in tears half the day from the pain. Nothing is inflamed or infected, I got my ultrasound. The guy said I had A LOT of stones, and I asked how many - he counted and there were only 24. I Was expecting him to say 100 or more. There were only 24 small ones. to NORMAL send blank e-mail to: gallstones-normal You are receiving this email because you elected to subscribe to the Gallstones group on 's groups. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself! Have a nice day ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 That is still a lot more than comfortable! It could be that the vitamins are stimulating a detox reaction. Not a bad thing just unbearable. Easy for me to say, right? Try to keep the muscle relaxed. ----- Original Message ----- From: Traci<mailto:tracic@...> gallstones <mailto:gallstones > Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 3:59 PM Subject: RE: Chinese Liver balance? Well the only reason I am worried about ginger is because in my Prescription for Nutritional Healing book and various places on the internet it says to avoid ginger if you have gallstones. Then after not having an attack for 3 weeks I took new vitamins that had ginger juice in them and had 3 attacks, 7 attacks since then in 3 days. In fact I just got back from the hospital. The attacks were just coming too often and worrying me - I Was in tears half the day from the pain. Nothing is inflamed or infected, I got my ultrasound. The guy said I had A LOT of stones, and I asked how many - he counted and there were only 24. I Was expecting him to say 100 or more. There were only 24 small ones. -----Original Message----- From: gallstones <mailto:gallstones > [mailto:gallstones <mailto:gallstones >] On Behalf Of Dave Shelden Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 6:24 PM gallstones <mailto:gallstones > Subject: Re: Chinese Liver balance? Chinese herbs are no stronger than any other herbs on the planet. All indigenous herbal healing methods contain very strong herbs. All the herbs in this formula are very safe. Harmonizing is the most used treatment method in TCM, and also the least forceful. Why would ginger worry you? Nature's sunshine is a network marketing company. People who get involved tend to be a bit zealous sometimes. You should be able to find a similar patent formula at your chinese herb store for a fraction of the cost. -Dave FOR yourself! Have a nice day ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 Traci, Are you juicing? If not, try juicing and eating extra healthy at this time. You are doing the right thing by c hecking the books on what not to eat. Just follow the good advice you are finding. EVW -----Original Message----- From: tracic@... gallstones Sent: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 7:12 PM Subject: RE: Chinese Liver balance? PS..the sonographer, said that's a lot of stones....he doesn't usually see that many. It was only 24??????? -----Original Message----- From: gallstones [mailto:gallstones ] On Behalf Of Traci Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 7:00 PM gallstones Subject: RE: Chinese Liver balance? Well the only reason I am worried about ginger is because in my Prescription for Nutritional Healing book and various places on the internet it says to avoid ginger if you have gallstones. Then after not having an attack for 3 weeks I took new vitamins that had ginger juice in them and had 3 attacks, 7 attacks since then in 3 days. In fact I just got back from the hospital. The attacks were just coming too often and worrying me - I Was in tears half the day from the pain. Nothing is inflamed or infected, I got my ultrasound. The guy said I had A LOT of stones, and I asked how many - he counted and there were only 24. I Was expecting him to say 100 or more. There were only 24 small ones. to NORMAL send blank e-mail to: gallstones-normal You are receiving this email because you elected to subscribe to the Gallstones group on 's groups. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself! Have a nice day ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 LOL! Yeah it's easy to say when not having an attack. Boy, did I love the days where I didn't need this group! -----Original Message----- From: gallstones [mailto:gallstones ] On Behalf Of Dave Shelden Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 7:17 PM gallstones Subject: Re: Chinese Liver balance? That is still a lot more than comfortable! It could be that the vitamins are stimulating a detox reaction. Not a bad thing just unbearable. Easy for me to say, right? Try to keep the muscle relaxed. ----- Original Message ----- From: Traci<mailto:tracic@...> gallstones <mailto:gallstones > Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 3:59 PM Subject: RE: Chinese Liver balance? Well the only reason I am worried about ginger is because in my Prescription for Nutritional Healing book and various places on the internet it says to avoid ginger if you have gallstones. Then after not having an attack for 3 weeks I took new vitamins that had ginger juice in them and had 3 attacks, 7 attacks since then in 3 days. In fact I just got back from the hospital. The attacks were just coming too often and worrying me - I Was in tears half the day from the pain. Nothing is inflamed or infected, I got my ultrasound. The guy said I had A LOT of stones, and I asked how many - he counted and there were only 24. I Was expecting him to say 100 or more. There were only 24 small ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 It is not the herbs.. it is the chinese medicinal concoctions. I have a very close friend that is certified in Chinese medicine. She swears by the methods, but also says to be very careful when starting with Chinese herbal remedies because of their strength. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Shelden gallstones Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 6:24 PM Subject: Re: Chinese Liver balance? Chinese herbs are no stronger than any other herbs on the planet. All indigenous herbal healing methods contain very strong herbs. All the herbs in this formula are very safe. Harmonizing is the most used treatment method in TCM, and also the least forceful. Why would ginger worry you? Nature's sunshine is a network marketing company. People who get involved tend to be a bit zealous sometimes. You should be able to find a similar patent formula at your chinese herb store for a fraction of the cost. -Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: Toni Chester<mailto:tonichester@...> gallstones <mailto:gallstones > Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 10:49 AM Subject: Re: Chinese Liver balance? chinese herbs are very strong.. you have to be careful please read information on liver health at www.weightcontroldoctor.com<http://www.weightcontroldoctor.com/> ----- Original Message ----- From: Traci gallstones <mailto:gallstones > Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 2:15 PM Subject: Chinese Liver balance? Does anyone take these from Nature's Sunshine? A lady recommended them to me and said she took them during pregnancy. They do have ginger in them, and that does worry me. This seems like a lot of herbs unfamiliar to me, I'm not sure what they are and if they are safe. LIVER BALANCE, CHINESE Liver Balance, Chinese [Digestive, Nervous] is a Chinese combination of 12 herbs designed to support the needs of a stressed wood constitution. The Chinese call this formula tiao he, which can be translated to mean " harmonizing. " In Traditional Chinese Medicine, it is used to support both the digestive and nervous systems, optimizing liver health and reducing stress. Its primary herbs-scute, peony, bupleurum and atractylodes-have been used traditionally to maintain normal nervous system function during mental stress and support the upper digestive system during tension and distress. It contains: Bupleurum root Peony root Typhonium flagelliforme Cinnamon twig Dang gui root Fushen plant Scute root Zhishi fruit Atractylodes rhizome Panax ginseng root Ginger rhizome Licorice root Take 4 capsules with a meal twice daily. Psalm 127:3 Lo, children are an heritage of the LORD: and the fruit of the womb is his reward. 4 As arrows are in the hand of a mighty man; so are children of the youth. 5 Happy is the man that hath his quiver full of them: they shall not be ashamed, but they shall speak with the enemies in the gate. Proverbs 3: 5-6 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. Happy moments, PRAISE GOD. Difficult moments, SEEK GOD. Quiet moments, WORSHIP GOD Painful moments, TRUST GOD. Every moment, THANK GOD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 TCM is very effective. Having been developed over 5 thousand years of necessity amongst other things. Their concoctions (formulas) are very effective for their specific purposes and while some use toxic substances to produce a desired effect, non of those are used in this particular one. Chinese formulas are no " stronger " than any other properly put together formulas from other herbal modalities. -Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: Toni Chester<mailto:tonichester@...> gallstones <mailto:gallstones > Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 1:50 AM Subject: Re: Chinese Liver balance? It is not the herbs.. it is the chinese medicinal concoctions. I have a very close friend that is certified in Chinese medicine. She swears by the methods, but also says to be very careful when starting with Chinese herbal remedies because of their strength. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Shelden gallstones <mailto:gallstones > Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 6:24 PM Subject: Re: Chinese Liver balance? Chinese herbs are no stronger than any other herbs on the planet. All indigenous herbal healing methods contain very strong herbs. All the herbs in this formula are very safe. Harmonizing is the most used treatment method in TCM, and also the least forceful. Why would ginger worry you? Nature's sunshine is a network marketing company. People who get involved tend to be a bit zealous sometimes. You should be able to find a similar patent formula at your chinese herb store for a fraction of the cost. -Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: Toni Chester<mailto:tonichester@...<mailto:tonichester@...>> To: gallstones <mailto:gallstones ><mailto:gallstones@\ <mailto:gallstones >> Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 10:49 AM Subject: Re: Chinese Liver balance? chinese herbs are very strong.. you have to be careful please read information on liver health at www.weightcontroldoctor.com<http://www.weightcontroldoctor.com/<http://www.weigh\ tcontroldoctor.com/>> ----- Original Message ----- From: Traci To: gallstones <mailto:gallstones ><mailto:gallstones@\ <mailto:gallstones >> Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 2:15 PM Subject: Chinese Liver balance? Does anyone take these from Nature's Sunshine? A lady recommended them to me and said she took them during pregnancy. They do have ginger in them, and that does worry me. This seems like a lot of herbs unfamiliar to me, I'm not sure what they are and if they are safe. LIVER BALANCE, CHINESE Liver Balance, Chinese [Digestive, Nervous] is a Chinese combination of 12 herbs designed to support the needs of a stressed wood constitution. The Chinese call this formula tiao he, which can be translated to mean " harmonizing. " In Traditional Chinese Medicine, it is used to support both the digestive and nervous systems, optimizing liver health and reducing stress. Its primary herbs-scute, peony, bupleurum and atractylodes-have been used traditionally to maintain normal nervous system function during mental stress and support the upper digestive system during tension and distress. It contains: Bupleurum root Peony root Typhonium flagelliforme Cinnamon twig Dang gui root Fushen plant Scute root Zhishi fruit Atractylodes rhizome Panax ginseng root Ginger rhizome Licorice root Take 4 capsules with a meal twice daily. Psalm 127:3 Lo, children are an heritage of the LORD: and the fruit of the womb is his reward. 4 As arrows are in the hand of a mighty man; so are children of the youth. 5 Happy is the man that hath his quiver full of them: they shall not be ashamed, but they shall speak with the enemies in the gate. Proverbs 3: 5-6 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. Happy moments, PRAISE GOD. Difficult moments, SEEK GOD. Quiet moments, WORSHIP GOD Painful moments, TRUST GOD. Every moment, THANK GOD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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