Re: Help - Hyperthyroidism advice

[Guest guest]

It is no coincidence that you are having these symptoms after a weekand a half

of daily sweating. You have sweated out all your water soluble minerals and

may be dehydrated on top of that. I don't think you're hyperthyroid at all.

Trace minerals, potassium and magnesium are probably bottomed out. If you are

going to sweat and not replenish it may take a while but it does catch up with

you. Bananas and s low sodium tomato juice will help with the

potassium loss. A trace mineral supplement like `Fountain of Minerals' should

help and some Magnesium Glycinate capsule before bedtime to help you sleep are

my suggestions . If you are supplementing while detoxing, I would triple the

dose since you must be sweating a lot. I went through a 52 day sauna detox

with 5 hours of sweating a day... you should have seen the fistfuls of minerals

and vitamins I was taking. A few times I had the symptoms you are describing

and just upped my dose of minerals and had plenty of filtered water.

--- gdawson6 <gdawson6@...> wrote:

> Hi I am a 20 year old male who is recovering from mercury toxicity,

> and I know I have too much flouride in me as well (mottling of teeth).

> I have avoided all flouridated water for at least 8 months and got my

> 10 mercury amalgams removed in febuary.

>

> I have been supplementing with kelp (high quality organic iceland

> kelp) about 1/2 teaspoon - 1 teaspoon a day (though I would take a

> break every few days, sometimes for a week) for a few months and have

> gotten good results.

>

> I recently got a portable infrared sauna and have been using it for 30

> minutes a day for about 2 weeks and now (for the past 4 of 5 days)

> nearly every night I go hyperthyroid between midnight and 4am and have

> trouble sleeping. I haven't taken kelp for at least 4 days, and don't

> plan on taking it out of fear that I have too much iodine.

>

> I am thinking that I finally may have gotten too much iodine after

> months of supplementing. I am feeling pretty good mentally like I am

> not very mercury toxic anymore but do get very anxious when I go

> hyperthyroid. But I don't know if its just coincidense that this

> happened right after starting sauna therapy to detoxify, I am worried

> that I may also need iodine due to releasing mercury and flouride from

> my system.

>

> I also read here http://www.acu-cell.com/nico2.html that too much B-12

> can cause hyperthyroidism and insomnia so I stopped supplementing my

> 1mg methylcobalamin that I have been taking for probably 5 months daily.

>

> I have some iodine from the store used as an antiseptic, could I use

> that to make a patch to see if I could possibly still need iodine? I

> really don't have the money to get my iodine levels checked but would

> if it seems very necessary.

>

> Finally, does it seem like a good idea to eat some tofu or tempeh to

> slow down my thyroid? I don't eat anything that inhibits thyroid

> function besides possible small amounts of miso and I used to drink

> organic green tea (2 cups in the morning), but have stopped drinking

> green tea since I've noticed this hyperthyroidism at night as I don't

> need the boost in the morning, as I have been suprisingly awake and

> alert even though I haven't gotten much sleep.

>

> Thanks for any advice,

> Dawson

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I do appreciate your advice , but that doesn't make sense to me.

I have been exercising and for the first time in a LONG time, I was

able to do strenuous exercise without getting extremely sore for days

afterwards. This was the same routine I had done a week before getting

the sauna and I was incredibly sore for many days afterwards. That was

one of my biggest symptoms was very poor exercise recovery. I have

not had any cramps since starting to use the sauna and I did used to

get calf cramps some mornings occasionally. My bowel movements all

also very regular. I am still 150 pounds (5'11 " ) which is what I have

been for a long time.

The strangest part is that I feel a lot better than before getting the

sauna, especially physically. Mentally I get a little anxious

sometimes when my heart beat speeds up for reasons not obvious to me.

I do not take any mineral supplements, but I do eat a very nutrient

dense tradtional diet (Weston A. Price influenced) including lots of

raw animal products such as dairy and meat. I do make sure to get

plenty of potassium and I drink a lacto-fermented drink made from

organic mollasses for potassium and minerals, and eat a lot of veggies

on top of that. I do get plenty of minerals in my diet and I think it

shows in my immunity...I haven't gotten sick in like 18 months and I

haven't taken any supplements besides some herbal extracts.

Regardless, I am going to take a break from the sauna.

-

-- In iodine , <kennio@...> wrote:

>

> It is no coincidence that you are having these symptoms after a

weekand a half

> of daily sweating. You have sweated out all your water soluble

minerals and

> may be dehydrated on top of that. I don't think you're hyperthyroid

at all.

> Trace minerals, potassium and magnesium are probably bottomed out.

If you are

> going to sweat and not replenish it may take a while but it does

catch up with

> you. Bananas and s low sodium tomato juice will help with the

> potassium loss. A trace mineral supplement like `Fountain of

Minerals' should

> help and some Magnesium Glycinate capsule before bedtime to help you

sleep are

> my suggestions . If you are supplementing while detoxing, I would

triple the

> dose since you must be sweating a lot. I went through a 52 day

sauna detox

> with 5 hours of sweating a day... you should have seen the fistfuls

of minerals

> and vitamins I was taking. A few times I had the symptoms you are

describing

> and just upped my dose of minerals and had plenty of filtered water.

[Guest guest]

Both green and black teas are a significant source of natural

fluoride . I stopped drinking them on a daily basis when I found

that out so it is just as well you quit it since you are trying to

avoid fluoride. I am wanting to have my amalgams replaced and do a

chelating protocol. Did you do any other chelating beside the

infrared sauna? Are you on thyroid meds? Have you been diagnosed

with thyroid disease? Very interesting about going hyper at such a

specific time. I am interested to hear what other folks have to say

about this. We are planning on putting in an infra red sauna also.

On Jun 25, 2006, at 11:57 PM, gdawson6 wrote:

> Hi I am a 20 year old male who is recovering from mercury toxicity,

> and I know I have too much flouride in me as well (mottling of teeth).

> I have avoided all flouridated water for at least 8 months and got my

> 10 mercury amalgams removed in febuary.

>

> I have been supplementing with kelp (high quality organic iceland

> kelp) about 1/2 teaspoon - 1 teaspoon a day (though I would take a

> break every few days, sometimes for a week) for a few months and have

> gotten good results.

>

> I recently got a portable infrared sauna and have been using it for 30

> minutes a day for about 2 weeks and now (for the past 4 of 5 days)

> nearly every night I go hyperthyroid between midnight and 4am and have

> trouble sleeping. I haven't taken kelp for at least 4 days, and don't

> plan on taking it out of fear that I have too much iodine.

>

> I am thinking that I finally may have gotten too much iodine after

> months of supplementing. I am feeling pretty good mentally like I am

> not very mercury toxic anymore but do get very anxious when I go

> hyperthyroid. But I don't know if its just coincidense that this

> happened right after starting sauna therapy to detoxify, I am worried

> that I may also need iodine due to releasing mercury and flouride from

> my system.

>

> I also read here http://www.acu-cell.com/nico2.html that too much B-12

> can cause hyperthyroidism and insomnia so I stopped supplementing my

> 1mg methylcobalamin that I have been taking for probably 5 months

> daily.

>

> I have some iodine from the store used as an antiseptic, could I use

> that to make a patch to see if I could possibly still need iodine? I

> really don't have the money to get my iodine levels checked but would

> if it seems very necessary.

>

> Finally, does it seem like a good idea to eat some tofu or tempeh to

> slow down my thyroid? I don't eat anything that inhibits thyroid

> function besides possible small amounts of miso and I used to drink

> organic green tea (2 cups in the morning), but have stopped drinking

> green tea since I've noticed this hyperthyroidism at night as I don't

> need the boost in the morning, as I have been suprisingly awake and

> alert even though I haven't gotten much sleep.

>

> Thanks for any advice,

> Dawson

[Guest guest]

I don't see how you could have gotten "too much iodine" from kelp. I have read that if you take 1 tab of Iodoral (12.5mg), it will take one year to reach iodine sufficiency. Do you think you are getting this much from kelp? You could do the iodine loading test available I think from http://www.vrp.com

Another cause of hyper symptoms is low adrenals.

gracia

Hi I am a 20 year old male who is recovering from mercury toxicity,and I know I have too much flouride in me as well (mottling of teeth).I have avoided all flouridated water for at least 8 months and got my10 mercury amalgams removed in febuary.I have been supplementing with kelp (high quality organic icelandkelp) about 1/2 teaspoon - 1 teaspoon a day (though I would take abreak every few days, sometimes for a week) for a few months and havegotten good results. I recently got a portable infrared sauna and have been using it for 30minutes a day for about 2 weeks and now (for the past 4 of 5 days)nearly every night I go hyperthyroid between midnight and 4am and havetrouble sleeping. I haven't taken kelp for at least 4 days, and don'tplan on taking it out of fear that I have too much iodine.I am thinking that I finally may have gotten too much iodine aftermonths of supplementing. I am feeling pretty good mentally like I amnot very mercury toxic anymore but do get very anxious when I gohyperthyroid. But I don't know if its just coincidense that thishappened right after starting sauna therapy to detoxify, I am worriedthat I may also need iodine due to releasing mercury and flouride frommy system.I also read here http://www.acu-cell.com/nico2.html that too much B-12can cause hyperthyroidism and insomnia so I stopped supplementing my1mg methylcobalamin that I have been taking for probably 5 months daily. I have some iodine from the store used as an antiseptic, could I usethat to make a patch to see if I could possibly still need iodine? Ireally don't have the money to get my iodine levels checked but wouldif it seems very necessary.Finally, does it seem like a good idea to eat some tofu or tempeh toslow down my thyroid? I don't eat anything that inhibits thyroidfunction besides possible small amounts of miso and I used to drinkorganic green tea (2 cups in the morning), but have stopped drinkinggreen tea since I've noticed this hyperthyroidism at night as I don'tneed the boost in the morning, as I have been suprisingly awake andalert even though I haven't gotten much sleep.Thanks for any advice, Dawson

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[Guest guest]

>

> Both green and black teas are a significant source of natural

> fluoride . I stopped drinking them on a daily basis when I found

> that out so it is just as well you quit it since you are trying to

> avoid fluoride. I am wanting to have my amalgams replaced and do a

> chelating protocol. Did you do any other chelating beside the

> infrared sauna? Are you on thyroid meds? Have you been diagnosed

> with thyroid disease? Very interesting about going hyper at such a

> specific time. I am interested to hear what other folks have to say

> about this. We are planning on putting in an infra red sauna also.

>

Ya I am going to not drink any tea for a while.

I am not on any thyroid meds, though I have had anxiety problems

nearly my entire life that are very similar to what I am experiencing

now. I never have been diagnosed with any thyroid disorders though.

Its not the first time I have had trouble sleeping, but its just been

very consistent the past week and its demanding that I figure out what

is going on.

-

[Guest guest]

>

>

> I don't see how you could have gotten " too much iodine " from kelp.

I have read that if you take 1 tab of Iodoral (12.5mg), it will take

one year to reach iodine sufficiency. Do you think you are getting

this much from kelp? You could do the iodine loading test available

I think from http://www.vrp.com

> Another cause of hyper symptoms is low adrenals.

> gracia

>

I don't think I have low adrenals, as my energy has been fantastic. I

rarely ever get fatigued and can do lots of exercise and I go for very

long walks quite often.

I was only getting ~800-1600% RDA of iodine each time I took it. I

know that some people say that you need a lot more iodine to get

enough but everyone is different, you know? I have never had

hypothyroid problems either. Its confusing though as I know I am

detoxing from flouride along with mercury and flouride should cause

decreased thyroid function and mine has been going crazy lately!

-

-

[Guest guest]

A couple things come to mind. It depends on the type of strenuous exercise you

are doing. If you are lifting weight your weight should be increasing. I hope

you aren't adjusting your diet to maintain 150lbs. If you had extreme soreness

at your age I would suspect a couple thing first... Overtraining and lack of

protein after training.

Forget for a second how you feel since buying the sauna. If you sweat heavily

on a daily basis and don't replenish the lost minerals you will have problems -

such as heart beat irregularities.

BTW, here is an article that appeared in the British Journal of Sports Medicine

a few weeks ago. It talks about using probiotics (acidophilus) to treat

fatigue and recovery in athletes. My exercise induced fatigue is 80% better as

is my recovery since trying a high quality probiotic (10 mil +). Read this

carefully it is a groundbreaking study. Some of the athletes showed signs of

Epstein Barr virus and this reversed in less than a month.

http://bjsm.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/abstract/40/4/351

--- gdawson6 <gdawson6@...> wrote:

> I do appreciate your advice , but that doesn't make sense to me.

>

> I have been exercising and for the first time in a LONG time, I was

> able to do strenuous exercise without getting extremely sore for days

> afterwards. This was the same routine I had done a week before getting

> the sauna and I was incredibly sore for many days afterwards. That was

> one of my biggest symptoms was very poor exercise recovery. I have

> not had any cramps since starting to use the sauna and I did used to

> get calf cramps some mornings occasionally. My bowel movements all

> also very regular. I am still 150 pounds (5'11 " ) which is what I have

> been for a long time.

>

> The strangest part is that I feel a lot better than before getting the

> sauna, especially physically. Mentally I get a little anxious

> sometimes when my heart beat speeds up for reasons not obvious to me.

>

> I do not take any mineral supplements, but I do eat a very nutrient

> dense tradtional diet (Weston A. Price influenced) including lots of

> raw animal products such as dairy and meat. I do make sure to get

> plenty of potassium and I drink a lacto-fermented drink made from

> organic mollasses for potassium and minerals, and eat a lot of veggies

> on top of that. I do get plenty of minerals in my diet and I think it

> shows in my immunity...I haven't gotten sick in like 18 months and I

> haven't taken any supplements besides some herbal extracts.

>

> Regardless, I am going to take a break from the sauna.

>

> -

>

>

>

> -- In iodine , <kennio@...> wrote:

> >

> > It is no coincidence that you are having these symptoms after a

> weekand a half

> > of daily sweating. You have sweated out all your water soluble

> minerals and

> > may be dehydrated on top of that. I don't think you're hyperthyroid

> at all.

> > Trace minerals, potassium and magnesium are probably bottomed out.

> If you are

> > going to sweat and not replenish it may take a while but it does

> catch up with

> > you. Bananas and s low sodium tomato juice will help with the

> > potassium loss. A trace mineral supplement like `Fountain of

> Minerals' should

> > help and some Magnesium Glycinate capsule before bedtime to help you

> sleep are

> > my suggestions . If you are supplementing while detoxing, I would

> triple the

> > dose since you must be sweating a lot. I went through a 52 day

> sauna detox

> > with 5 hours of sweating a day... you should have seen the fistfuls

> of minerals

> > and vitamins I was taking. A few times I had the symptoms you are

> describing

> > and just upped my dose of minerals and had plenty of filtered water.

>

>

>

>

>

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--- gdawson6 <gdawson6@...> wrote:

>

> >

> > Both green and black teas are a significant source of natural

> > fluoride . I stopped drinking them on a daily basis when I found

> > that out so it is just as well you quit it since you are trying to

> > avoid fluoride. I am wanting to have my amalgams replaced and do a

> > chelating protocol. Did you do any other chelating beside the

> > infrared sauna? Are you on thyroid meds? Have you been diagnosed

> > with thyroid disease? Very interesting about going hyper at such a

> > specific time. I am interested to hear what other folks have to say

> > about this. We are planning on putting in an infra red sauna also.

> >

>

> Ya I am going to not drink any tea for a while.

>

> I am not on any thyroid meds, though I have had anxiety problems

> nearly my entire life that are very similar to what I am experiencing

> now. I never have been diagnosed with any thyroid disorders though.

>

> Its not the first time I have had trouble sleeping, but its just been

> very consistent the past week and its demanding that I figure out what

> is going on.

>

> -

>

>

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I am not adjusting my diet to maintain my wieght, I can eat a ton and

I just don't store any fat, its like that with my whole family. I eat

a lot of calories and get a lot of very high quality protein each day.

Before no matter how much protein I got I would feel like crap for

like 4 days afterwards because I think it mobilized mercury and/or

flouride. I did not overtrain as I never pushed myself too hard

knowing that I have a bad reaction to heavy exercise. I don't lift

weights either, I do traditional kung fu and lots of walking as my

main forms of exercise. Like I said before though I did not have this

reaction to heavy exercise recently, so something has obviously changed.

Probiotics are fantastic, but I get them from Kefir (like yogurt but

much more probiotic) made from raw grassfed jersey milk. Its also an

excellent source of minerals as well.

Thanks for your concern, I really do appreciate it .

-

>

> A couple things come to mind. It depends on the type of strenuous

exercise you

> are doing. If you are lifting weight your weight should be

increasing. I hope

> you aren't adjusting your diet to maintain 150lbs. If you had

extreme soreness

> at your age I would suspect a couple thing first... Overtraining and

lack of

> protein after training.

>

> Forget for a second how you feel since buying the sauna. If you

sweat heavily

> on a daily basis and don't replenish the lost minerals you will have

problems -

> such as heart beat irregularities.

>

> BTW, here is an article that appeared in the British Journal of

Sports Medicine

> a few weeks ago. It talks about using probiotics (acidophilus) to treat

> fatigue and recovery in athletes. My exercise induced fatigue is

80% better as

> is my recovery since trying a high quality probiotic (10 mil +).

Read this

> carefully it is a groundbreaking study. Some of the athletes showed

signs of

> Epstein Barr virus and this reversed in less than a month.

>

> http://bjsm.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/abstract/40/4/351

>

[Guest guest]

My score was only 18, so like I thought before I doubt its magnesium,

even though some of the symptoms fo coincide with magnesium deficiency.

I was pretty sure it had something to do with my thyroid gland because

I would feel this tension on my thyroid gland whenever my heart would

beat fast.

BTW, my hyperthyroidism was barely noticeable last night and I was

able to fall asleep easily and slept about 8-9 hours. I don't know if

I was just moving too much mercury with the sauna or what or if it was

just a flare up of old anxiety problems on their way out (which is

what I hope!), which I am pretty sure was related to toxins.

-

> > >

> > > Both green and black teas are a significant source of natural

> > > fluoride . I stopped drinking them on a daily basis when I

found

> > > that out so it is just as well you quit it since you are trying to

> > > avoid fluoride. I am wanting to have my amalgams replaced and

do a

> > > chelating protocol. Did you do any other chelating beside the

> > > infrared sauna? Are you on thyroid meds? Have you been diagnosed

> > > with thyroid disease? Very interesting about going hyper at

such a

> > > specific time. I am interested to hear what other folks have to

say

> > > about this. We are planning on putting in an infra red sauna also.

> > >

> >

> > Ya I am going to not drink any tea for a while.

> >

> > I am not on any thyroid meds, though I have had anxiety problems

> > nearly my entire life that are very similar to what I am experiencing

> > now. I never have been diagnosed with any thyroid disorders though.

> >

> > Its not the first time I have had trouble sleeping, but its just been

> > very consistent the past week and its demanding that I figure out what

> > is going on.

> >

> > -

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>