magnesium and thyroid

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Do you happen to have a reference on magnesium interfering with thyroid meds? Thanks. Zoe

Also, minerals like iron and magnesium interfere with absorption of thyroid meds, so you should not take them within a couple hours of each other.Skipper

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>From: " Zoe & " <ZOEA@...>

>Do you happen to have a reference on magnesium interfering with thyroid

>meds? Thanks. Zoe

That was hard to find. But, I did.

One reason I didn't doubt it interfered was a little article I read about

allergies and buffered Vitamin C. An allergist talked about how effectively

buffered vitamin C would stop an allergic food reaction, due to the

magnesium used for bufferiing -

http://www.onlineallergycenter.com/bufferedvitaminc/

" If I can get magnesium into my stomach while the reaction is taking place

it will stop the reaction and the discomfort within seconds of the time I

swallow it. "

If the magnesium can stop allergic reactions, why couldn't it stop

absorption of thyroid hormone?

Below are things that intefere with thyroid hormone absorption, magnesium is

at the bottom of this list because it took longer to find. Maybe because

" they haven't done any studies " just because it makes sense, doesn't mean

they bother investigating -

http://www.intelihealth.com/IH/ihtIH/WSI/35320/35321/404969.html?d=dmtHMSContent

" Your ability to absorb thyroid hormone can easily be impaired by things you

eat and other drugs or supplements that you take. In particular, calcium,

iron tablets, iron in multivitamins and the cholesterol-lowering medications

cholestyramine and colestipol can interfere with thyroid hormone

absorption. "

http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art38082.asp

5. Take birth control pills 4 hours after thyroid medication. Birth control

pills interferes with thyroid hormone absorption.

6. Take Female Hormone Replacement Pills 4 hours after thyroid medication.

Female Hormone Replacement Pills interferes with thyroid hormone absorption.

8. Antidepressants sometimes interactions with thyroid hormone. Medication

like Zoloft, Paxil or Prozac can make thyroid medication less effective or

do the opposite and make it more effective. Talk to you doctor or pharmacist

about the antidepressant you are taking.

http://www.umm.edu/altmed/ConsDrugs/Levothyroxinecd.html

Levothyroxine

Do not take iron products, aluminum- and magnesium-containing antacids,

calcium carbonate, simethicone, sucralfate, Kayexalate®, colestipol, or

cholestyramine within 4 hours of this medicine.

http://www.ispub.com/ostia/index.php?xmlFilePath=journals/ijanp/vol6n2/levothyro\

xine.xml

No research has been published about possible interactions between magnesium

or zinc and levothyroxine. These supplements are still of possible concern

for potential interactions. Like calcium, they are divalent minerals, which

may suggest a propensity for similar malabsorption reactions with

levothyroxine.

Skipper

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This only applies to those swallowing their meds. For those of us doing it

sublingually it does not have any effect.

B.

>>Do you happen to have a reference on magnesium interfering with thyroid

>>meds? Thanks. Zoe

>

> That was hard to find. But, I did.

>

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The links go on and on about calcium interfering with hormone absorption I see.

The magnesium

interfering is a little unclear and seems to indicate neutralized stomach acid

by antacids

containing magnesium. Calcium on the other hand seems to directly effect

absorption of some

medications. I personally don't think anyone should take ANY supplements within

hours of taking

ANY medication.

I think your initial post should have warned against taking `any minerals within

several hours of

taking thyroid hormone especially CALCIUM and Iron AND magnesium containing

antacids.'

" Magnesium hydroxide, commonly found in antacids, may INCREASE the absorption of

glipizide and

glyburide, medications used to control blood sugar levels. " also " There have

been case reports of

magnesium containing antacids REDUCING the effectiveness of levothyroxine "

" Hormone Replacement Therapy for menopause

Magnesium levels tend to decrease during menopause. Studies suggest, however,

that hormone

replacement therapy may help prevent the loss of this mineral. Postmenopausal

women or those

taking hormone replacement therapy should talk with a healthcare provider about

the risks and

benefits of magnesium supplementation. "

So go figure... my initial thought was that the stomach acid was neutralized by

the antacid and

the pills didn't dissolve properly but I am not sure. I will continue not

taking any supplements

with my thyroid hormone (I never use antacids). BTW, the food allergy doctor

goes on to say " It

has the magnesium that I need to neutralize the acidity of the stomach, and it

will reverse any

food reaction within seconds " .

http://www.umm.edu/altmed/ConsSupplements/Interactions/Magnesiumcs.html

--- Skipper Beers <lsb149@...> wrote:

> >From: " Zoe & " <ZOEA@...>

>

> >Do you happen to have a reference on magnesium interfering with thyroid

> >meds? Thanks. Zoe

>

> That was hard to find. But, I did.

>

> One reason I didn't doubt it interfered was a little article I read about

> allergies and buffered Vitamin C. An allergist talked about how effectively

> buffered vitamin C would stop an allergic food reaction, due to the

> magnesium used for bufferiing -

>

> http://www.onlineallergycenter.com/bufferedvitaminc/

> " If I can get magnesium into my stomach while the reaction is taking place

> it will stop the reaction and the discomfort within seconds of the time I

> swallow it. "

>

> If the magnesium can stop allergic reactions, why couldn't it stop

> absorption of thyroid hormone?

>

> Below are things that intefere with thyroid hormone absorption, magnesium is

> at the bottom of this list because it took longer to find. Maybe because

> " they haven't done any studies " just because it makes sense, doesn't mean

> they bother investigating -

>

>

>

>

http://www.intelihealth.com/IH/ihtIH/WSI/35320/35321/404969.html?d=dmtHMSContent

> " Your ability to absorb thyroid hormone can easily be impaired by things you

> eat and other drugs or supplements that you take. In particular, calcium,

> iron tablets, iron in multivitamins and the cholesterol-lowering medications

> cholestyramine and colestipol can interfere with thyroid hormone

> absorption. "

>

> http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art38082.asp

> 5. Take birth control pills 4 hours after thyroid medication. Birth control

> pills interferes with thyroid hormone absorption.

>

> 6. Take Female Hormone Replacement Pills 4 hours after thyroid medication.

> Female Hormone Replacement Pills interferes with thyroid hormone absorption.

>

> 8. Antidepressants sometimes interactions with thyroid hormone. Medication

> like Zoloft, Paxil or Prozac can make thyroid medication less effective or

> do the opposite and make it more effective. Talk to you doctor or pharmacist

> about the antidepressant you are taking.

>

> http://www.umm.edu/altmed/ConsDrugs/Levothyroxinecd.html

> Levothyroxine

> Do not take iron products, aluminum- and magnesium-containing antacids,

> calcium carbonate, simethicone, sucralfate, Kayexalate®, colestipol, or

> cholestyramine within 4 hours of this medicine.

>

>

http://www.ispub.com/ostia/index.php?xmlFilePath=journals/ijanp/vol6n2/levothyro\

xine.xml

> No research has been published about possible interactions between magnesium

> or zinc and levothyroxine. These supplements are still of possible concern

> for potential interactions. Like calcium, they are divalent minerals, which

> may suggest a propensity for similar malabsorption reactions with

> levothyroxine.

>

>

> Skipper

>

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Thanks very much, Skipper, for all these links and information!!!

I knew about calcium and Armour. Both the research and my personal experience have convinced me that calcium interferes with thyroid absorption. I once started taking buffered Vitamin C, forgetting that it had calcium in it, and immediately felt the effects.

Since minerals and thyroid supplements are both supposed to be spaced throughout the day, it can be a challenge to find the right timing.

I have heard that, if you take Armour sublingually, it will not be absorbed through the stomach/intestines and therefore will not compete with the minerals. However, I don't know whether that is true or not. I have also heard that, even when you think you are taking the Armour sublingually, it is really being taken to the stomach/intestines for absorption. I haven't seen any research on this and don't know what is true. I do seem to experience significantly different effects when I take Armour sublingually.

Have you ever seen any research on "sublingual" absorption of Armour???

On magnesium, I especially appreciated your last link that said,

"No research has been published about possible interactions between magnesium or zinc and levothyroxine. These supplements are still of possible concern for potential interactions. Like calcium, they are divalent minerals, which may suggest a propensity for similar malabsorption reactions with levothyroxine."

Zoe

RE: magnesium and thyroid

>From: "Zoe & " <ZOEA@...>>Do you happen to have a reference on magnesium interfering with thyroid >meds? Thanks. ZoeThat was hard to find. But, I did.One reason I didn't doubt it interfered was a little article I read about allergies and buffered Vitamin C. An allergist talked about how effectively buffered vitamin C would stop an allergic food reaction, due to the magnesium used for bufferiing -http://www.onlineallergycenter.com/bufferedvitaminc/"If I can get magnesium into my stomach while the reaction is taking place it will stop the reaction and the discomfort within seconds of the time I swallow it."If the magnesium can stop allergic reactions, why couldn't it stop absorption of thyroid hormone?Below are things that intefere with thyroid hormone absorption, magnesium is at the bottom of this list because it took longer to find. Maybe because "they haven't done any studies" just because it makes sense, doesn't mean they bother investigating -http://www.intelihealth.com/IH/ihtIH/WSI/35320/35321/404969.html?d=dmtHMSContent"Your ability to absorb thyroid hormone can easily be impaired by things you eat and other drugs or supplements that you take. In particular, calcium, iron tablets, iron in multivitamins and the cholesterol-lowering medications cholestyramine and colestipol can interfere with thyroid hormone absorption."http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art38082.asp5. Take birth control pills 4 hours after thyroid medication. Birth control pills interferes with thyroid hormone absorption.6. Take Female Hormone Replacement Pills 4 hours after thyroid medication. Female Hormone Replacement Pills interferes with thyroid hormone absorption.8. Antidepressants sometimes interactions with thyroid hormone. Medication like Zoloft, Paxil or Prozac can make thyroid medication less effective or do the opposite and make it more effective. Talk to you doctor or pharmacist about the antidepressant you are taking.http://www.umm.edu/altmed/ConsDrugs/Levothyroxinecd.htmlLevothyroxineDo not take iron products, aluminum- and magnesium-containing antacids, calcium carbonate, simethicone, sucralfate, Kayexalate®, colestipol, or cholestyramine within 4 hours of this medicine.http://www.ispub.com/ostia/index.php?xmlFilePath=journals/ijanp/vol6n2/levothyroxine.xmlNo research has been published about possible interactions between magnesium or zinc and levothyroxine. These supplements are still of possible concern for potential interactions. Like calcium, they are divalent minerals, which may suggest a propensity for similar malabsorption reactions with levothyroxine.Skipper

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>From: " Zoe & " <ZOEA@...>

>I have heard that, if you take Armour sublingually, it will not be absorbed

>through the stomach/intestines and therefore will not compete with the

>minerals. However, I don't know whether that is true or not. I have also

>heard that, even when you think you are taking the Armour sublingually, it

>is really being taken to the stomach/intestines for absorption. I haven't

>seen any research on this and don't know what is true. I do seem to

>experience significantly different effects when I take Armour sublingually.

>

>Have you ever seen any research on " sublingual " absorption of Armour???

I've looked for it, and haven't found any. It's not formulated to be taken

sublingually. Supposedly, sublingual avoids the liver where T4 is converted

to T3.

But, who take it sublingually have posted their numbers for here T4 and T3

and they seem to be fine.

I have my doubts about sublingual usage, but possible I'm wrong.

Skipper

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I took sublingually 3 grains of Armour and my blood test (FT4 and

FT3, TSH) last week showed I was way over the range in both T4 and

T3. I have dropped back to 2 grains. I did also take iodine about a

month before my blood test so I wonder if that had anything to do

with the T's so out of range. (Sorry, I'm not at home so can't give

you the exact amounts I was out of the range.)

Suzanne

>

> >From: " Zoe & " <ZOEA@...>

>

>

> >I have heard that, if you take Armour sublingually, it will not be

absorbed

> >through the stomach/intestines and therefore will not compete with

the

> >minerals. However, I don't know whether that is true or not. I

have also

> >heard that, even when you think you are taking the Armour

sublingually, it

> >is really being taken to the stomach/intestines for absorption. I

haven't

> >seen any research on this and don't know what is true. I do seem

to

> >experience significantly different effects when I take Armour

sublingually.

> >

> >Have you ever seen any research on " sublingual " absorption of

Armour???

>

> I've looked for it, and haven't found any. It's not formulated to

be taken

> sublingually. Supposedly, sublingual avoids the liver where T4 is

converted

> to T3.

>

> But, who take it sublingually have posted their numbers for here T4

and T3

> and they seem to be fine.

>

> I have my doubts about sublingual usage, but possible I'm wrong.

>

> Skipper

>

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>From: Pamela <calblonde1@...>

>Hi Skipper,

>

> What are your doubts about sublingual usage Armour?

I don't say I don't think it would be useful anymore, isn't that an

improvement?

Not from me, but this is what some people think -

" Third, taking it sublingual is a highly individual variable. For

most people, the only real benefit is they know that the tab has

dissolved. The vast majority of the hormones in most people

cannot be absorbed thru the membranes in the mouth, and all that

dissolving it in the mouth does is it gets swallowed and absorbed

just like normal people do who just swallow the dang pill, in the

digestive tract. "

If this is correct, and Armour is not specifically formulated for sublingual

absorption, so it makes sense to me, it's not really any different than

swallowing it.

As for me, I let it dissolve a bit under my tongue, than chew and swallow.

Chewing gets the digestive juices flowing, plus breaks the pill down a bit.

I don't know for sure whether sublingual absorption of Armour is better or

not, and am not aware of any studies in that regard.

Skipper

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Hi, I've been on armour for three weeks and have been letting it

disolve completly and I do know how I feel, so lets play guina pig.

I'm not bias either way. Tommarow I will swallow mine and see if I

feel any different and let you know tommarow evening. I'm kind of

interested myself.

Debbie

In iodine , " Skipper Beers " <lsb149@...> wrote:

>

> >From: Pamela <calblonde1@...>

>

> >Hi Skipper,

> >

> > What are your doubts about sublingual usage Armour?

>

> I don't say I don't think it would be useful anymore, isn't that an

> improvement?

>

> Not from me, but this is what some people think -

>

> " Third, taking it sublingual is a highly individual variable. For

> most people, the only real benefit is they know that the tab has

> dissolved. The vast majority of the hormones in most people

> cannot be absorbed thru the membranes in the mouth, and all that

> dissolving it in the mouth does is it gets swallowed and absorbed

> just like normal people do who just swallow the dang pill, in the

> digestive tract. "

>

>

> If this is correct, and Armour is not specifically formulated for

sublingual

> absorption, so it makes sense to me, it's not really any different

than

> swallowing it.

>

> As for me, I let it dissolve a bit under my tongue, than chew and

swallow.

> Chewing gets the digestive juices flowing, plus breaks the pill

down a bit.

>

> I don't know for sure whether sublingual absorption of Armour is

better or

> not, and am not aware of any studies in that regard.

>

> Skipper

>

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