Re: Iodine Help While On Fluoxetine? - Skipper

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>

> Skipper asked:

> " What's prozac do for him? "

> Because of the above situation, I am horribly afraid of taking him

off any of his meds. The risperdal, I believe, helps him with his

psychotic/impulsive actions. Because the courts are involved now,

they are advocating big time that he not miss any of his " prescribed "

medications.

That would make it impossible to make changes.

>

> I will be printing out the article links you included here to show

my son's dr .. but I remember asking him about this last summer ...

about the " flouridation " part and he said " no, that's not true " .... ?

The fluorine component isn't even controversial,it's known. This is a

pro-fluorinated drug site -

http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN & cpsidt=15601120

" Fluorine-containing compounds have also been successful in the

marketplace, such as the insecticides fipronil and lambda-cyhalothrin,

the fungicides epoxiconazole and trifloxystrobin, the herbicides

trifluralin and clodinafop, and the pharmaceutical blockbusters

Fluoxetine (Prozac®), Paroxetine (Paxil®), Ciprofloxacin (Cipro®) and

Cisaprid (Propulsid®). This success is mainly due to the fact that

selectively fluorinated compounds can exhibit dramatically improved

potency when compared to the non-fluorinated analogues. "

****************************

Does it make you feel good to know it's in insecticides (as active

ingredient), fungicides, and cipro?

> So .. probably since he is on the fluoxetine .. the 50mgs of

iodine he is on, is not doing much for him .. ?

It may help to compensate. I'm not sure how being in Prozac would

affect the fluoride, but the iodine may actually help to compensate.

In high fluoride areas, I believe it's better to keep up the iodine.

Skipper

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hypothyroids report lots of OCD issues, even knowing they have to increase thyroid meds when they get a return of OCD symptoms. IMO Armour and especially adrenal meds and iodoral would fix this.

Gracia

Skipper asked:

"What's prozac do for him?"

He developed OCD back in high school. His psychiatrist (at that time) tried several different meds on him and this is what worked best .. at that time. This helps him with depression issues and the very noticeable OCD symptoms that he can have. At this point, I wouldn't call him a "danger" to society .. but he has had (recent) problems with the law (several misdemeanors) since this past spring. He began stealing (I guess that does mean "danger"??) after he lost his job! Which floored us, 'cause he is not "wanting" for anything .. except for "friends". We believe that he has to "pay" in a lot of different ways to keep his so called "friends". There was never ever any legal issues before this past spring/summer .. and now all of a sudden he has had repeated "offenses".

Because of the above situation, I am horribly afraid of taking him off any of his meds. The risperdal, I believe, helps him with his psychotic/impulsive actions. Because the courts are involved now, they are advocating big time that he not miss any of his "prescribed" medications.

I will be printing out the article links you included here to show my son's dr .. but I remember asking him about this last summer ... about the "flouridation" part and he said "no, that's not true" .... ?

So .. probably since he is on the fluoxetine .. the 50mgs of iodine he is on, is not doing much for him .. ?

Glo

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The Pfeiffer Treatment Center in Warrenville, Illinois is the best place for natural treatment of Schizophrenia and other mental disorders. They specialize in nutritional balancing of biochemical imbalances. There is also a great book called "Natural healing of schizophrenia and other mental disorders" which discusses much of what they do at the Pfeiffer Treatment center.

Re: Iodine Help While On Fluoxetine? - Skipper

>> Skipper asked:> "What's prozac do for him?"> Because of the above situation, I am horribly afraid of taking himoff any of his meds. The risperdal, I believe, helps him with hispsychotic/impulsive actions. Because the courts are involved now,they are advocating big time that he not miss any of his "prescribed"medications. That would make it impossible to make changes.> > I will be printing out the article links you included here to showmy son's dr .. but I remember asking him about this last summer ...about the "flouridation" part and he said "no, that's not true" .... ? The fluorine component isn't even controversial,it's known. This is apro-fluorinated drug site -http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN & cpsidt=15601120"Fluorine-containing compounds have also been successful in themarketplace, such as the insecticides fipronil and lambda-cyhalothrin,the fungicides epoxiconazole and trifloxystrobin, the herbicidestrifluralin and clodinafop, and the pharmaceutical blockbustersFluoxetine (Prozac®), Paroxetine (Paxil®), Ciprofloxacin (Cipro®) andCisaprid (Propulsid®). This success is mainly due to the fact thatselectively fluorinated compounds can exhibit dramatically improvedpotency when compared to the non-fluorinated analogues."****************************Does it make you feel good to know it's in insecticides (as activeingredient), fungicides, and cipro?> So .. probably since he is on the fluoxetine .. the 50mgs ofiodine he is on, is not doing much for him .. ? It may help to compensate. I'm not sure how being in Prozac wouldaffect the fluoride, but the iodine may actually help to compensate. In high fluoride areas, I believe it's better to keep up the iodine.Skipper

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We took our son the Pfeiffer Treatment Center, early in his high school years. He was on a quite the supplement program back then. (I think he had a couple of diagnosis, but the one I remember off the top of my head is pylruria. sp?) My husband was always saying to me that he didn't understand why I continued on with the supplement program, because it didn't change anything. I think that he was on the "program" for about 4 yrs ... Now that I am thinking about it .. I don't remember a possible thyroid issue ever being brought up back then. I wonder if I contact them now .. if they will still have records from 8 or so years ago .. ? (just talking out loud here ..) That all said, I do have a doc (more or less locally) that will work with the Pfeiffer protocols. So, maybe it is time to get back there .. ?) Glo Gikas <skg59@...> wrote: The Pfeiffer Treatment Center in Warrenville, Illinois is the best place for natural treatment of Schizophrenia and other mental disorders. They specialize in nutritional balancing of biochemical imbalances. There is also a great book called "Natural healing of schizophrenia and other mental disorders" which discusses much of what they do at the Pfeiffer Treatment center. Re: Iodine Help While On Fluoxetine? - Skipper >> Skipper asked:> "What's prozac do for him?"> Because of the above situation, I am horribly afraid of

taking himoff any of his meds. The risperdal, I believe, helps him with hispsychotic/impulsive actions. Because the courts are involved now,they are advocating big time that he not miss any of his "prescribed"medications. That would make it impossible to make changes.> > I will be printing out the article links you included here to showmy son's dr .. but I remember asking him about this last summer ...about the "flouridation" part and he said "no, that's not true" .... ? The fluorine component isn't even controversial,it's known. This is apro-fluorinated drug site -http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN & cpsidt=15601120"Fluorine-containing compounds have also been successful in themarketplace, such as the insecticides fipronil and lambda-cyhalothrin,the fungicides epoxiconazole and

trifloxystrobin, the herbicidestrifluralin and clodinafop, and the pharmaceutical blockbustersFluoxetine (Prozac®), Paroxetine (Paxil®), Ciprofloxacin (Cipro®) andCisaprid (Propulsid®). This success is mainly due to the fact thatselectively fluorinated compounds can exhibit dramatically improvedpotency when compared to the non-fluorinated analogues."****************************Does it make you feel good to know it's in insecticides (as activeingredient), fungicides, and cipro?> So .. probably since he is on the fluoxetine .. the 50mgs ofiodine he is on, is not doing much for him .. ? It may help to compensate. I'm not sure how being in Prozac wouldaffect the fluoride, but the iodine may actually help to compensate. In high fluoride areas, I believe it's better to keep up the iodine.Skipper

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If you have

had him to the Pfeiffer

Center, then you have had

him looked after for what I was suggesting. That is a great center. The

orthomolecular treatment doesn’t work unless you avoid the foods to which

he is allergic. The main allergens are wheat, dairy and sugar in schizophrenia.

I would save

my energy in checking out the old records. You can get him tested now for his

thyroid and for iodine deficiency. Years ago, the thyroid tests demanded you

be greatly deficient in order to show hypo and they didn’t know about

iodine deficiency.

If he is iodine

and thyroid deficient, you would probably see an improvement in him when the

deficiency is addressed.

Kallie

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iodine

Subject: Re: Re: Iodine

Help While On Fluoxetine? - Skipper

We took our son the Pfeiffer

Treatment Center,

early in his high school years. He was on a quite the

supplement program back then. (I think he had a couple of diagnosis, but

the one I remember off the top of my head is pylruria. sp?) My husband

was always saying to me that he didn't understand why I continued on with the

supplement program, because it didn't change anything. I think that he

was on the " program " for about 4 yrs ...

Now that I am thinking about it .. I don't remember a possible thyroid

issue ever being brought up back then. I wonder if I contact them now ..

if they will still have records from 8 or so years ago .. ? (just talking

out loud here ..)

That all said, I do have a doc (more or less locally) that will work

with the Pfeiffer protocols. So, maybe it is time to get back there ..

?)

Glo

Gikas

<skg59comcast (DOT) net> wrote:

The Pfeiffer Treatment Center

in Warrenville, Illinois is the best place for natural

treatment of Schizophrenia and other mental disorders. They specialize in

nutritional balancing of biochemical imbalances. There is also a great

book called " Natural healing of schizophrenia and other mental

disorders " which discusses much of what they do at the Pfeiffer Treatment

center.

Re:

Iodine Help While On Fluoxetine? - Skipper

>

> Skipper asked:

> " What's prozac do for him? "

> Because of the above situation, I am horribly afraid of taking him

off any of his meds. The risperdal, I believe, helps him with his

psychotic/impulsive actions. Because the courts are involved now,

they are advocating big time that he not miss any of his " prescribed "

medications.

That would make it impossible to make changes.

>

> I will be printing out the article links you included here to show

my son's dr .. but I remember asking him about this last summer ...

about the " flouridation " part and he said " no, that's not

true " .... ?

The fluorine component isn't even controversial,it's known. This is a

pro-fluorinated drug site -

http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN & cpsidt=15601120

" Fluorine-containing compounds have also been successful in the

marketplace, such as the insecticides fipronil and lambda-cyhalothrin,

the fungicides epoxiconazole and trifloxystrobin, the herbicides

trifluralin and clodinafop, and the pharmaceutical blockbusters

Fluoxetine (Prozac®), Paroxetine (Paxil®), Ciprofloxacin (Cipro®) and

Cisaprid (Propulsid®). This success is mainly due to the fact that

selectively fluorinated compounds can exhibit dramatically improved

potency when compared to the non-fluorinated analogues. "

****************************

Does it make you feel good to know it's in insecticides (as active

ingredient), fungicides, and cipro?

> So .. probably since he is on the fluoxetine .. the 50mgs of

iodine he is on, is not doing much for him .. ?

It may help to compensate. I'm not sure how being in Prozac would

affect the fluoride, but the iodine may actually help to compensate.

In high fluoride areas, I believe it's better to keep up the iodine.

Skipper

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Be careful.

There are studies that are showing that supplementation with T3 is

helping an overwhelming number of Fibromyalgia, Chronic Fatigue and

Depressed patients. Iodine helps in the production of Thyroid

hormones. Overwhelming is a great word, but it doesn't mean that it

is a cure-all. No blanket statements fit in medicine or the human

body. This is a sensitive subject because Depression can lead to

suicide, which is a very serious subject. Who here would want to be

the responsible one for a suicide resulting from changing one drug

that is working, over to another that had potential but failed in that

particular case?

Please be careful with blanket statements...

IMHO

E

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>

> hypothyroids report lots of OCD issues, even knowing they have to

increase thyroid meds when they get a return of OCD symptoms. IMO

Armour and especially adrenal meds and iodoral would fix this.

> Gracia

>

>

> Skipper asked:

> " What's prozac do for him? "

>

> He developed OCD back in high school. His psychiatrist (at that

time) tried several different meds on him and this is what worked best

... at that time. This helps him with depression issues and the very

noticeable OCD symptoms that he can have. At this point, I wouldn't

call him a " danger " to society .. but he has had (recent) problems

with the law (several misdemeanors) since this past spring. He began

stealing (I guess that does mean " danger " ??) after he lost his job!

Which floored us, 'cause he is not " wanting " for anything .. except

for " friends " . We believe that he has to " pay " in a lot of different

ways to keep his so called " friends " . There was never ever any legal

issues before this past spring/summer .. and now all of a sudden he

has had repeated " offenses " .

>

> Because of the above situation, I am horribly afraid of taking him

off any of his meds. The risperdal, I believe, helps him with his

psychotic/impulsive actions. Because the courts are involved now,

they are advocating big time that he not miss any of his " prescribed "

medications.

>

> I will be printing out the article links you included here to show

my son's dr .. but I remember asking him about this last summer ...

about the " flouridation " part and he said " no, that's not true " .... ?

>

> So .. probably since he is on the fluoxetine .. the 50mgs of

iodine he is on, is not doing much for him .. ?

>

> Glo

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what? I am talking about OCD here, which is thyroid/adrenal. As for depression, Hertoghe MD says the best depression med is cortef. That doesn't mean it will work for everybody but it is the med that is never Rxed by docs. On 90mg of Armour, the most I could tolerate, I experienced CFS (could barely hold a coffee cup) and severe depression (wishing that a plane would hit my house a few months b4 9-11). I needed cortef and some other hormones. And I can report that Iodoral has a huge effect on mood.

Spend some time on support groups and you will see what actually works.

Gracia

Be careful.There are studies that are showing that supplementation with T3 ishelping an overwhelming number of Fibromyalgia, Chronic Fatigue andDepressed patients. Iodine helps in the production of Thyroidhormones. Overwhelming is a great word, but it doesn't mean that itis a cure-all. No blanket statements fit in medicine or the humanbody. This is a sensitive subject because Depression can lead tosuicide, which is a very serious subject. Who here would want to bethe responsible one for a suicide resulting from changing one drugthat is working, over to another that had potential but failed in thatparticular case?Please be careful with blanket statements...IMHOE>> > hypothyroids report lots of OCD issues, even knowing they have toincrease thyroid meds when they get a return of OCD symptoms. IMOArmour and especially adrenal meds and iodoral would fix this. > Gracia> > >

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I appreciate your caution. I am one of the fibromites who got her life back with T3 supplementation. Still working on hormone balancing issues though.One thing I have to mention here. I was on Prozac for years. While it took away the awful lows, it also took away the highs. And it did not help me over-all. I just kept getting sicker which made me want to give up more than the depression ever did.I weaned off Prozac..took me three tries to do so very, very slowly. But once I treated my thyroid, my outlook improved immensely. Prozac never did this for me. This is only my personal experience!Now I'm reading that Prozac MAY have contributed to my thyroid issues. I'm now doubly glad I weaned off it.But I DO appreicate your caution. It is very wise and my experience is only my experience.Ellen <ellen@...> wrote: Be careful.There are studies that are showing that supplementation with T3 ishelping an overwhelming number of Fibromyalgia, Chronic Fatigue andDepressed patients. Iodine helps in the production of Thyroidhormones. Overwhelming is a great word, but it doesn't mean that itis a cure-all. No blanket statements fit in medicine or the humanbody. This is a sensitive subject because Depression can lead tosuicide, which is a very serious subject. Who here would want to bethe responsible one for a suicide resulting from changing one drugthat is working, over to another that had potential but failed in thatparticular case?Please be careful with blanket statements...IMHOE>> > hypothyroids report lots of OCD issues,

even knowing they have toincrease thyroid meds when they get a return of OCD symptoms. IMOArmour and especially adrenal meds and iodoral would fix this. > Gracia> > > Skipper asked:> "What's prozac do for him?"> > He developed OCD back in high school. His psychiatrist (at thattime) tried several different meds on him and this is what worked best.. at that time. This helps him with depression issues and the verynoticeable OCD symptoms that he can have. At this point, I wouldn'tcall him a "danger" to society .. but he has had (recent) problemswith the law (several misdemeanors) since this past spring. He beganstealing (I guess that does mean "danger"??) after he lost his job! Which floored us, 'cause he is not "wanting" for anything .. exceptfor "friends". We believe that he has to "pay" in a lot of differentways to keep his so called "friends". There was never ever

any legalissues before this past spring/summer .. and now all of a sudden hehas had repeated "offenses". > > Because of the above situation, I am horribly afraid of taking himoff any of his meds. The risperdal, I believe, helps him with hispsychotic/impulsive actions. Because the courts are involved now,they are advocating big time that he not miss any of his "prescribed"medications. > > I will be printing out the article links you included here to showmy son's dr .. but I remember asking him about this last summer ...about the "flouridation" part and he said "no, that's not true" .... ? > > So .. probably since he is on the fluoxetine .. the 50mgs ofiodine he is on, is not doing much for him .. ? > > Glo> > > > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message.> Checked by AVG Free Edition.> Version:

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I am so glad you found it helped you! Imagine how many others out

there could likely be helped in the same way. I am all for trying T3

therapy before Prozac or other antidepressants. i think it should be

in the PDR in that order. It's not and I do worry about taking

someone who is functioning on Prozac or alternative and just making

the switch. I'm sure there are others more knowledgeable than I on

the issue of antidepressants that would know of a better way of doing

it, and it seems to me that iodine (if there are not autoimmune issues

at work) would be a reasonable thing to consider as well.

I have a friend I think would benefit tremendously. Now I just have

to try and talk her into it which so far isn't working. She goes to

mayo's for all her treatment and won't do anything without their

say-so. Right now she's got a bad doc who won't even consider the

thought. Probaby the same Mayo guy I got that told me I had no

thyroid and to go home even tho I had other issues he didn't feel like

addressing at that time. Grief!

E

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> >

> > hypothyroids report lots of OCD issues, even knowing they have to

> increase thyroid meds when they get a return of OCD symptoms. IMO

> Armour and especially adrenal meds and iodoral would fix this.

> > Gracia

> >

> >

> > Skipper asked:

> > " What's prozac do for him? "

> >

> > He developed OCD back in high school. His psychiatrist (at that

> time) tried several different meds on him and this is what worked best

> .. at that time. This helps him with depression issues and the very

> noticeable OCD symptoms that he can have. At this point, I wouldn't

> call him a " danger " to society .. but he has had (recent) problems

> with the law (several misdemeanors) since this past spring. He began

> stealing (I guess that does mean " danger " ??) after he lost his job!

> Which floored us, 'cause he is not " wanting " for anything .. except

> for " friends " . We believe that he has to " pay " in a lot of different

> ways to keep his so called " friends " . There was never ever any legal

> issues before this past spring/summer .. and now all of a sudden he

> has had repeated " offenses " .

> >

> > Because of the above situation, I am horribly afraid of taking him

> off any of his meds. The risperdal, I believe, helps him with his

> psychotic/impulsive actions. Because the courts are involved now,

> they are advocating big time that he not miss any of his " prescribed "

> medications.

> >

> > I will be printing out the article links you included here to show

> my son's dr .. but I remember asking him about this last summer ...

> about the " flouridation " part and he said " no, that's not true " .... ?

> >

> > So .. probably since he is on the fluoxetine .. the 50mgs of

> iodine he is on, is not doing much for him .. ?

> >

> > Glo

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