Re: First Day's Iodoral Experience - Dramatic thyroid results

[Guest guest]

Hi

> More that I'm trying to figure out if any of you who were

> " iodine-starved " had dramatic thyroid hormone results from minimal

> supplementation.

I have not noticed a lot of people on the list saying that was the case

for them but hopefully we will hear from some. I actually did have

dramatic thyroid hormone results from minimal iodine supplementation

(1mg/2 kelp capsules). Unfortunately for me it turned out to be a

hyperthyroid reaction. So for that reason, I really recommend people

try and get thyroid labs including antibodies, especially if they have

any symptoms in the hyper ballpark like nervousness, palpitations and

insomnia. I had some of all three symptoms but otherwise felt great,

until my adrenals couldn't take it anymore and then I felt TERRIBLE. I

don't think my response is overly common, but something to look out for

anyway.

Best wishes,

Sharon

[Guest guest]

Hi, Sharon,

Just so I understand...were you on hypothyroid meds? Or were you

already hyperthyroid?

This is exactly what I am interested in learning about. If upon

initiation of iodine, did many people who were on meds for hypothyroid

felt hyper and had to adjust their meds. And if they had adrenal

issues, how their adrenals were affected.

Warmly,

>

> I have not noticed a lot of people on the list saying that was the case

> for them but hopefully we will hear from some. I actually did have

> dramatic thyroid hormone results from minimal iodine supplementation

> (1mg/2 kelp capsules). Unfortunately for me it turned out to be a

> hyperthyroid reaction. So for that reason, I really recommend people

> try and get thyroid labs including antibodies, especially if they have

> any symptoms in the hyper ballpark like nervousness, palpitations and

> insomnia. I had some of all three symptoms but otherwise felt great,

> until my adrenals couldn't take it anymore and then I felt TERRIBLE. I

> don't think my response is overly common, but something to look out for

> anyway.

>

> Best wishes,

> Sharon

>

[Guest guest]

- I went from Levoxyl to 3 gr Armour and didn't have to titrate

my doses. After 6-8 months on Armour I took a 4x saliva test and that

came back at Stage 7 AI. I should feel worse than I do. Maybe I'm

just used to feeling like crap. I don't have any motivation and feel

lazy. I have anxiety and panic sometimes too. According to

everything I've read I should have had some serious problems with the

Armour but haven't had a problem tolerating it, except for the above

symptoms. Maybe I am just the oddball here but I think that it really

does affect some people different than others.

Terry

> >

> > I have not noticed a lot of people on the list saying that was the

case

> > for them but hopefully we will hear from some. I actually did have

> > dramatic thyroid hormone results from minimal iodine supplementation

> > (1mg/2 kelp capsules). Unfortunately for me it turned out to be a

> > hyperthyroid reaction. So for that reason, I really recommend people

> > try and get thyroid labs including antibodies, especially if they

have

> > any symptoms in the hyper ballpark like nervousness, palpitations and

> > insomnia. I had some of all three symptoms but otherwise felt great,

> > until my adrenals couldn't take it anymore and then I felt

TERRIBLE. I

> > don't think my response is overly common, but something to look

out for

> > anyway.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> > Sharon

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Yes, I was on a small dose of Synthroid (37.5mcg) when I started iodine

(starting with 2 kelp capsules). In a few days I had heart palpitations

and dropped the Synthroid.

I did notice that the iodine was hard on my adrenals in the first month

or two, but of course I was hyper so that makes sense. But after a

while I felt great with lots of energy and just an occasional heart

palp. Until the adrenals couldn't take it anymore and I got myself to

my doctor to find out what was going on.

Take care,

Sharon

> Hi, Sharon,

>

> Just so I understand...were you on hypothyroid meds? Or were you

> already hyperthyroid?

>

> This is exactly what I am interested in learning about. If upon

> initiation of iodine, did many people who were on meds for hypothyroid

> felt hyper and had to adjust their meds. And if they had adrenal

> issues, how their adrenals were affected.

>

> Warmly,

>

[Guest guest]

------- writes:

> More that I'm trying to figure out if any of you who were> "iodine-starved" had dramatic thyroid hormone results from minimal> supplementation.

-------Sharon writes:

>I have not noticed a lot of people on the list saying that was the case >for them but hopefully we will hear from some.

Hi and Sharon,

I am someone who had reactions to iodine which I don't know what to call now: hyperT or thyroid dump or heart palps?

Anyway, I have gone on and off iodine and Armour several times to try and deal with these excesses.

What I've learned is that iodine, like thyroid hormone, can effect some thyroids and must be titrated closely and carefully. I've been doing that not with labs just with symptoms and tracking blood pressure and pulse, to a lesser extent temperatures.

I have found I am able to tolerate higher doses of both Armour and Iodine once I started taking Cortef or equivalent.

Best wishes,

Dahlia

[Guest guest]

Do warm hands, better energy & better mood count as " dramatic

thyroid hormone results " ? I noticed that after starting the iodine.

I haven't had any new lab work yet since starting the iodine. My NP

will probably order labs at my next visit in a month.

I've been on iodine 4-5 weeks now. I'm not on any thyroid hormones

(Armour et al) yet. Right now I'm doing nutritional support

(vitamins/minerals/diet), along with Isocort for adrenals & some

thyroid/glandulars capsules.

>

> Hi

>

> > More that I'm trying to figure out if any of you who were

> > " iodine-starved " had dramatic thyroid hormone results from

minimal supplementation.

>

> I have not noticed a lot of people on the list saying that was the

case for them but hopefully we will hear from some. I actually did

have dramatic thyroid hormone results from minimal iodine

supplementation (1mg/2 kelp capsules). Unfortunately for me it

turned out to be a hyperthyroid reaction. So for that reason, I

really recommend people try and get thyroid labs including

antibodies, especially if they have any symptoms in the hyper

ballpark like nervousness, palpitations and insomnia. I had some of

all three symptoms but otherwise felt great, until my adrenals

couldn't take it anymore and then I felt TERRIBLE. I don't think my

response is overly common, but something to look out for

> anyway.

>

> Best wishes,

> Sharon

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Do warm hands, better energy & better mood count as " dramatic

> thyroid hormone results " ? I noticed that after starting the iodine.

> I haven't had any new lab work yet since starting the iodine. My NP

> will probably order labs at my next visit in a month.

>

> I've been on iodine 4-5 weeks now. I'm not on any thyroid hormones

> (Armour et al) yet. Right now I'm doing nutritional support

> (vitamins/minerals/diet), along with Isocort for adrenals & some

> thyroid/glandulars capsules.

>

>

>

I'd say those were pretty dramatic, ! good for you! Do you

think that you will actually need thyroid meds after all?

These responses begin to answer my questions...

If I have the type of response that you did , I'm almost certain

I'd have to at least lower the thyroid meds.

Can't recall if I asked (sorry it's that darn hypothyroid!), has

anyone been able to go off thyroid meds entirely?

[Guest guest]

Yes, I think I'll still need Armour.

While I've had improvements, I have a long way to go to get back

to " normal " . I still have edema (especially periorbital edema, which

was a new symptom that started in Sept. Used to be mostly leg/body

edema before), hair loss, low energy, low interest in favorite

activities, can't lose weight, get tired easily doing simple

errands, impaired immune system, etc. I think the iodine is

supportive, but my thyroid gland is having trouble operating at the

capacity I need.

I added Maca to my nutritional support as of yesterday. That's

supposed to help the thyroid. We'll see...

I may have a familial connection to weak thyroid. Mom has

fibromyalgia. I may also have permanent impairment of the gland. In

the mid-90's, I had a head injury/whiplash when thrown off my horse.

Then I had Lyme twice. Both of those are known for damaging the

thyroid. My symptoms became obvious starting in 1998. Hmmm...

As a kid, I had a tonsilectomy & adnoidectomy. Sometimes the blood

supply to the thyroid can be slightly damaged in those operations.

Did something get nicked? Was the gland slowly not receiving its

full blood supply for decades, predisposing me to problems in the

future?

I can't know the answer to any of these for sure, but if I have more

than just a nutritional/hormonal/stress imbalance causing my thyroid

issues, I may well need thyroid meds permanently. All I can do is to

correct any nutritional/hormonal/stress factors, try Armour, give my

gland time to recover, wean off Armour, and see if I've self-

corrected or not.

That's my treatment plan. The experiment continues....

> > Do warm hands, better energy & better mood count as " dramatic

> > thyroid hormone results " ? I noticed that after starting the

iodine. I haven't had any new lab work yet since starting the

iodine. My NP will probably order labs at my next visit in a month.

> > I've been on iodine 4-5 weeks now. I'm not on any thyroid

hormones (Armour et al) yet. Right now I'm doing nutritional support

> > (vitamins/minerals/diet), along with Isocort for adrenals & some

> > thyroid/glandulars capsules.

> >

> >

> >

>

> I'd say those were pretty dramatic, ! good for you! Do you

> think that you will actually need thyroid meds after all? These

responses begin to answer my questions...If I have the type of

response that you did , I'm almost certain I'd have to at least

lower the thyroid meds. Can't recall if I asked (sorry it's that

darn hypothyroid!), has anyone been able to go off thyroid meds

entirely?

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Good treatment plan. Good to see someone else sees this as a reversible

situation. I've read that with the T4 build up by the use of thyroid hormone

that it would be very hard to just stop. There is a therapy that would switch

you over to T3 entirely and then ween you off of that. The thyroid is

literally shut down during T3 therapy allowing it to rest and reset.

Whiplash? That is the first I've ever heard of that.. I've researched it now.

Wow, who knew? I had whiplash before the onset of my hashimoto's. I also had

the worst stressful year of my life before the onset, supposedly a trigger. I

had relentless poison oak with a couple of rounds of prednisone, which is

another scenario that I have read on forums that preceded peoples hashimoto's

diagnosis. Triple whammy for me, I guess.

--- jtb14789 <jtb14789@...> wrote:

> Yes, I think I'll still need Armour.

>

> While I've had improvements, I have a long way to go to get back

> to " normal " . I still have edema (especially periorbital edema, which

> was a new symptom that started in Sept. Used to be mostly leg/body

> edema before), hair loss, low energy, low interest in favorite

> activities, can't lose weight, get tired easily doing simple

> errands, impaired immune system, etc. I think the iodine is

> supportive, but my thyroid gland is having trouble operating at the

> capacity I need.

>

> I added Maca to my nutritional support as of yesterday. That's

> supposed to help the thyroid. We'll see...

>

> I may have a familial connection to weak thyroid. Mom has

> fibromyalgia. I may also have permanent impairment of the gland. In

> the mid-90's, I had a head injury/whiplash when thrown off my horse.

> Then I had Lyme twice. Both of those are known for damaging the

> thyroid. My symptoms became obvious starting in 1998. Hmmm...

>

> As a kid, I had a tonsilectomy & adnoidectomy. Sometimes the blood

> supply to the thyroid can be slightly damaged in those operations.

> Did something get nicked? Was the gland slowly not receiving its

> full blood supply for decades, predisposing me to problems in the

> future?

>

> I can't know the answer to any of these for sure, but if I have more

> than just a nutritional/hormonal/stress imbalance causing my thyroid

> issues, I may well need thyroid meds permanently. All I can do is to

> correct any nutritional/hormonal/stress factors, try Armour, give my

> gland time to recover, wean off Armour, and see if I've self-

> corrected or not.

>

> That's my treatment plan. The experiment continues....

>

>

>

>

>

> > > Do warm hands, better energy & better mood count as " dramatic

> > > thyroid hormone results " ? I noticed that after starting the

> iodine. I haven't had any new lab work yet since starting the

> iodine. My NP will probably order labs at my next visit in a month.

> > > I've been on iodine 4-5 weeks now. I'm not on any thyroid

> hormones (Armour et al) yet. Right now I'm doing nutritional support

> > > (vitamins/minerals/diet), along with Isocort for adrenals & some

> > > thyroid/glandulars capsules.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> > I'd say those were pretty dramatic, ! good for you! Do you

> > think that you will actually need thyroid meds after all? These

> responses begin to answer my questions...If I have the type of

> response that you did , I'm almost certain I'd have to at least

> lower the thyroid meds. Can't recall if I asked (sorry it's that

> darn hypothyroid!), has anyone been able to go off thyroid meds

> entirely?

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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