Guest guest Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 I heard people talk about Auditory depth perception and they stated that CI doesn't give us that. First of all I don't understand what Auditory depth perception mean and secondly does the CI allow us to have the entire spectrum of auditory depth perception? Ilana Deaf-Blind N24M 8/5/00 Nucleus Freedom 8/5/06 Ilana2@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 Ilana, I think a degree in physics might help us understand auditory depth perception. I read somewhere that, whatever it is, it is lessened when one has hearing in only one ear. Were the people who said the CI couldn't provide auditory depth perception discussing only single implants? I also read somewhere that lack of auditory depth perception is tied in with the problem of understanding people in noisy backgrounds. Bilateral CIs are supposed to improve speech perception in noisy backgrounds, so perhaps they do provide some auditory depth perception. e > > I heard people talk about Auditory depth perception and they stated that CI doesn't give us that. First of all I don't understand what Auditory depth perception mean and secondly does the CI allow us to have the entire spectrum of auditory depth perception? Ilana Deaf-Blind N24M 8/5/00 Nucleus Freedom 8/5/06 Ilana2@... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 In terms of hearing sounds from a distance, I find that I'm able to do that quite easily with two CIs compared to one. With one CI, environmental sounds (like traffic) seem further away. With two CIs, I'm better able to tell how far away a sound is based on the fact that I can hear it with two " ears. " Left ear - Nucleus 24 Contour Advance with 3G Implanted: 12/22/04 Activated: 1/18/05 Right ear - Nucleus Freedom Implanted: 2/1/06 Activated: 3/1/06 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 I am not sure of the answer to that. I do know they say ci users who were hearing impaired hear thing such as running water more correctly and sounds such as the soft " s " and " z " and " th " and even pronounce them better. I know this is true of myself. Anyone else? Vivian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 The person has a hearing aid and CI. He says that CIs doesn't give depth perception because it doesn't pick up all the frequencies of sound, is it true that our CIs do that what he said? Do we miss hearing certain frequencies? If it's true, what doesn't our CIs pick up? He says one miss the entire meaning of music because the CI don't pick up the wide frequency range such as low frequencies for the Bass of music, it only pick up the treble. I feel if you communicate with your Audie, they are able to turn up the electrodes responsible for hearing low frequency bass sounds? Is it possible for our Audies to acheive that for us by MAPping our CIs? Ilana Deaf-Blind N24M 8/5/00 Nucleus Freedom 8/5/06 Ilana2@... -- original message -- Subject: Re: Auditory Depth Pereption? From: " e M. Goforth " <agoforth@...> Date: 3rd December 2006 9:59:45 pm Ilana, I think a degree in physics might help us understand auditory depth perception. I read somewhere that, whatever it is, it is lessened when one has hearing in only one ear. Were the people who said the CI couldn't provide auditory depth perception discussing only single implants? I also read somewhere that lack of auditory depth perception is tied in with the problem of understanding people in noisy backgrounds. Bilateral CIs are supposed to improve speech perception in noisy backgrounds, so perhaps they do provide some auditory depth perception. e > > I heard people talk about Auditory depth perception and they stated that CI doesn't give us that. First of all I don't understand what Auditory depth perception mean and secondly does the CI allow us to have the entire spectrum of auditory depth perception? Ilana Deaf-Blind N24M 8/5/00 Nucleus Freedom 8/5/06 Ilana2@... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 I think, Ilana, that the problem lies with poor frequency *discrimination*. My audiogram shows a mostly flat response from 25Hz to 8KHz but, while I *hear* those frequencies all the way through nearby ones sound the same, differing only in amplitude perhaps but not in the perceived frequency. For example, 1Khz may sound just like 1.2Khz. Virg > The person has a hearing aid and CI. He says that CIs doesn't give depth perception because it doesn't pick up all the frequencies of sound, is it true that our CIs do that what he said? Do we miss hearing certain frequencies? If it's true, what doesn't our CIs pick up? He says one miss the entire meaning of music because the CI don't pick up the wide frequency range such as low frequencies for the Bass of music, it only pick up the treble. I feel if you communicate with your Audie, they are able to turn up the electrodes responsible for hearing low frequency bass sounds? Is it possible for our Audies to acheive that for us by MAPping our CIs? Ilana Deaf-Blind N24M 8/5/00 Nucleus Freedom 8/5/06 Ilana2@... > > -- original message -- > Subject: Re: Auditory Depth Pereption? > From: " e M. Goforth " <agoforth@...> > Date: 3rd December 2006 9:59:45 pm > > Ilana, > > I think a degree in physics might help us understand auditory depth > perception. I read somewhere that, whatever it is, it is lessened > when one has hearing in only one ear. Were the people who said the CI > couldn't provide auditory depth perception discussing only single > implants? I also read somewhere that lack of auditory depth > perception is tied in with the problem of understanding people in > noisy backgrounds. Bilateral CIs are supposed to improve speech > perception in noisy backgrounds, so perhaps they do provide some > auditory depth perception. > > e > > > > > > I heard people talk about Auditory depth perception and they stated > that CI doesn't give us that. First of all I don't understand what > Auditory depth perception mean and secondly does the CI allow us to > have the entire spectrum of auditory depth perception? Ilana > Deaf-Blind N24M 8/5/00 Nucleus Freedom 8/5/06 Ilana2@... > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 Ilana, Experiences with low frequency hearing differ from one CI user to another, but I'm able to hear bass (or what sounds like bass to me) and low frequencies very well with my N24C. However, I have more difficulty with this when it comes to my Freedom since it tends to pick up more high frequencies than my N24C. Having said that, I hear *more* overall frequencies with my Freedom and more low frequencies with my N24C. As for whether or not CIs are limited in producing low frequencies, that I don't know. Since I have two CIs, everything I hear is " normal " (as I remember before losing my hearing) and I don't feel as if I'm missing out on any frequency information. Left ear - Nucleus 24 Contour Advance with 3G Implanted: 12/22/04 Activated: 1/18/05 Right ear - Nucleus Freedom Implanted: 2/1/06 Activated: 3/1/06 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 I remember all those yrs of speech therapy that made no difference and the immediate improvement when I was hooked up.!!! Vivian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 I don't know the answer to your question but my hubby would laugh if I told him that I wasn't picking up the range of music with my CI because he says even before I went deaf I was tone deaf. I wonder if there are people who were tone deaf that can now hear music better and the reverse. Connie Ilana2@... wrote: The person has a hearing aid and CI. He says that CIs doesn't give depth perception because it doesn't pick up all the frequencies of sound, is it true that our CIs do that what he said? Do we miss hearing certain frequencies? If it's true, what doesn't our CIs pick up? He says one miss the entire meaning of music because the CI don't pick up the wide frequency range such as low frequencies for the Bass of music, it only pick up the treble. I feel if you communicate with your Audie, they are able to turn up the electrodes responsible for hearing low frequency bass sounds? Is it possible for our Audies to acheive that for us by MAPping our CIs? Ilana Deaf-Blind N24M 8/5/00 Nucleus Freedom 8/5/06 Ilana2@... -- original message -- Subject: Re: Auditory Depth Pereption? From: " e M. Goforth " <agoforth@...> Date: 3rd December 2006 9:59:45 pm Ilana, I think a degree in physics might help us understand auditory depth perception. I read somewhere that, whatever it is, it is lessened when one has hearing in only one ear. Were the people who said the CI couldn't provide auditory depth perception discussing only single implants? I also read somewhere that lack of auditory depth perception is tied in with the problem of understanding people in noisy backgrounds. Bilateral CIs are supposed to improve speech perception in noisy backgrounds, so perhaps they do provide some auditory depth perception. e > > I heard people talk about Auditory depth perception and they stated that CI doesn't give us that. First of all I don't understand what Auditory depth perception mean and secondly does the CI allow us to have the entire spectrum of auditory depth perception? Ilana Deaf-Blind N24M 8/5/00 Nucleus Freedom 8/5/06 Ilana2@... > " The Miracle at Ohio State " aka Nucleus Freedom Implanted 10/04/2005 Activated 11/1/2005 Surgery: Ohio State University Surgeon: Dr. Bradley Welling http://internalmedicine.osu.edu/article.cfm?ID=2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 Hi Vivian, After getting my CI, I am hearing all of those sounds. The really amazing thing to me is even though my hearing aid audi had told me that my speech was fine, after getting the CI almost everyone I know has told me that my speech has improved. They tell me that I am enunciating my words much better, and it is a very noticeable difference. Lynn Fairhope, AL Nucleus Freedom Surgery date: 9/6/06 Activation date: 9/27/06 _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Vcgpg@... Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 5:35 PM Subject: Re: Re: Auditory Depth Pereption? I am not sure of the answer to that. I do know they say ci users who were hearing impaired hear thing such as running water more correctly and sounds such as the soft " s " and " z " and " th " and even pronounce them better. I know this is true of myself. Anyone else? Vivian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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