Re: Non-Linguistic (Engvironmental) sound recognition with CI

[Guest guest]

Hello Dr. Inverso;

I'd be happy to answer your questions. I'm late deafened, began losing my

hearing at age 38 (I'm 51 now).

1) I don't know that I 'needed' to hear environmental sounds, as much as

missed them, and wanted to hear them. Birds, rain, thunder would be my top

picks. After them comes 'everything else'. I want, and expect to hear most

everything. I want to hear everything hearing people hear.

2) I had absolute expectation that I would hear environmental sounds, as

well as speech, and that they would be more easily heard and identified than

speech.

3) Since my implant, 1 year ago, I can certainly hear and identify most

environmental sounds. Actually it's amusing that if I don't recognize a

sound, once I have identified it, I don't forget it again.

Hope this helps! Good luck on your dissertation!

Binns

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From: " dr.inverso " <dr.inverso@...>

Reply-

Subject: Non-Linguistic (Engvironmental) sound recognition with CI

Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 00:25:08 -0000

Hello there,

My name is Yell Inverso, and I am an audiologist and researcher who

has worked with both pre and postlingually deafened CI users for

years. For my Ph.D. dissertation I am looking into how adult implant

users feel about environmental or non-linguisic sounds. I have a few

questions that I would like to ask, would anyone be willing to answer

these questions for me? My eventual goal is to help the implant

companies make these types of sounds, including music, sound better

with implant processing.

Here are the specific questions I had:

1. Before you got your implant, what were the environmental sounds

that you most felt you needed to hear?

2. Did you have the expectation that post-implantation non-

linguistic sounds (any sounds that are not speech, i.e. environmental

sounds and music) would be available to you?

3. Since your implant activation do you feel that you can hear and

recognize these types of sounds?

Thank you so much in advance for taking the time to answer these

questions. If anyone has any specific questions for me (or if you

care to send your responses or personal stories to me in an email),

you can email me directly at dr.inverso@...

Thank you in advance for your time and consideration,

Dr. Yell Inverso

[Guest guest]

,

Thank you for your response. I really appreciate your help. How does

music sound to you, do you feel as though you hear and appreciate

music as well as you had anticipated you would?

Thanks

Dr. Inverso, pleaes, call me Yell

>

> Hello Dr. Inverso;

> I'd be happy to answer your questions. I'm late deafened, began

losing my

> hearing at age 38 (I'm 51 now).

>

> 1) I don't know that I 'needed' to hear environmental sounds, as

much as

> missed them, and wanted to hear them. Birds, rain, thunder would

be my top

> picks. After them comes 'everything else'. I want, and expect to

hear most

> everything. I want to hear everything hearing people hear.

>

> 2) I had absolute expectation that I would hear environmental

sounds, as

> well as speech, and that they would be more easily heard and

identified than

> speech.

>

> 3) Since my implant, 1 year ago, I can certainly hear and identify

most

> environmental sounds. Actually it's amusing that if I don't

recognize a

> sound, once I have identified it, I don't forget it again.

>

> Hope this helps! Good luck on your dissertation!

>

> Binns

>

> ----Original Message Follows----

> From: " dr.inverso " <dr.inverso@...>

> Reply-

>

> Subject: Non-Linguistic (Engvironmental) sound recognition

with CI

> Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 00:25:08 -0000

>

> Hello there,

>

> My name is Yell Inverso, and I am an audiologist and researcher who

> has worked with both pre and postlingually deafened CI users for

> years. For my Ph.D. dissertation I am looking into how adult implant

> users feel about environmental or non-linguisic sounds. I have a few

> questions that I would like to ask, would anyone be willing to

answer

> these questions for me? My eventual goal is to help the implant

> companies make these types of sounds, including music, sound better

> with implant processing.

>

> Here are the specific questions I had:

> 1. Before you got your implant, what were the environmental sounds

> that you most felt you needed to hear?

>

> 2. Did you have the expectation that post-implantation non-

> linguistic sounds (any sounds that are not speech, i.e.

environmental

> sounds and music) would be available to you?

>

> 3. Since your implant activation do you feel that you can hear and

> recognize these types of sounds?

>

> Thank you so much in advance for taking the time to answer these

> questions. If anyone has any specific questions for me (or if you

> care to send your responses or personal stories to me in an email),

> you can email me directly at dr.inverso@...

>

> Thank you in advance for your time and consideration,

>

> Dr. Yell Inverso

>

[Guest guest]

Dr. Inverso,

Answers to questions...

1) Not in any particular order...Music, traffic related, sounds of nature,

phones. I will say that I love to listen to music most of all environmental

sounds.

2) Oh, it definitely was my expectation.

3) Most certainly. I hear them and better than when I had my HA. I have been

most pleased with all environmental sounds especially music. The only sound

that is still odd to me is the sound of thunder. For the most it is similar but

there are subtle differences that I'm still getting used to.

Dale

" dr.inverso " <dr.inverso@...> wrote: Hello there,

My name is Yell Inverso, and I am an audiologist and researcher who

has worked with both pre and postlingually deafened CI users for

years. For my Ph.D. dissertation I am looking into how adult implant

users feel about environmental or non-linguisic sounds. I have a few

questions that I would like to ask, would anyone be willing to answer

these questions for me? My eventual goal is to help the implant

companies make these types of sounds, including music, sound better

with implant processing.

Here are the specific questions I had:

1. Before you got your implant, what were the environmental sounds

that you most felt you needed to hear?

2. Did you have the expectation that post-implantation non-

linguistic sounds (any sounds that are not speech, i.e. environmental

sounds and music) would be available to you?

3. Since your implant activation do you feel that you can hear and

recognize these types of sounds?

Thank you so much in advance for taking the time to answer these

questions. If anyone has any specific questions for me (or if you

care to send your responses or personal stories to me in an email),

you can email me directly at dr.inverso@...

Thank you in advance for your time and consideration,

Dr. Yell Inverso

[Guest guest]

Hi Dr. Yell Inverso,

Glad to help, and please let me know if you have any questions or comments.

1. Before you got your implant, what were the environmental sounds that you

most felt you needed to hear?

I had enlarged vestibular canals since I was about three years old, so my

hearing declined over time. I'm currently at age 31 years. I've worn analog

and digital hearing aids the whole time, and heard many environmental sounds

(i.e., siren, engine, wind, dog barking, music, telephone, doorbell, TV, et

cetera). I apparently took them for granted. I couldn't hear the birds

chirping, airplanes in the air, et cetera.

2. Did you have the expectation that post-implantation non-

linguistic sounds (any sounds that are not speech, i.e. environmental sounds and

music) would be available to you?

I expected to be able to hear the musical equipments (i.e., flutes, piano,

saxophone, etc), animal callings (bird chirping and cawing, dog panting, cat

meowing, etc), nature calling (i.e., thunder, breeze, etc), mechanical sounds

(computer, air conditioner, etc)

3. Since your implant activation do you feel that you can hear and recognize

these types of sounds?

Believe it or not, my current audiogram reveals that my CI hearing level is

now at 10 dB that is above the speech banana! That is absolutely amazing for

me! I heard many more environmental sounds that I really don't need to hear,

but they make me feel alive. I can hear the " swish " sound when the cars pass

by. I can hear the breeze that's coming out from the vent, and it's very easy

for anyone with hearing to filter it out. I can hear the " buzz " sound from the

fluorescent light. I can hear person's breathing and my clothes moving. I can

also hear rhythm of the blood pressure. I can hear mechanical sounds like water

pump or washing machine in a room that's about 35 feet away. Those sounds were

not expected at all!

--Mekutochi

Left Ear -- Cochlear Nucleus Freedom

Implanted: August 15, 2005

Activated: August 23, 2005

Right Ear -- Pending

---------------------------------

Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using

Messenger with Voice.

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Dr. Yell Inverso,

>

> Glad to help, and please let me know if you have any questions or

comments.

>

> 1. Before you got your implant, what were the environmental sounds

that you most felt you needed to hear?

>

> I had enlarged vestibular canals since I was about three years old, so

my hearing declined over time. I'm currently at age 31 years. I've worn

analog and digital hearing aids the whole time, and heard many

environmental sounds (i.e., siren, engine, wind, dog barking, music,

telephone, doorbell, TV, et cetera). I apparently took them for granted.

I couldn't hear the birds chirping, airplanes in the air, et cetera.

>

> 2. Did you have the expectation that post-implantation non-

> linguistic sounds (any sounds that are not speech, i.e. environmental

sounds and music) would be available to you?

>

> I expected to be able to hear the musical equipments (i.e., flutes,

piano, saxophone, etc), animal callings (bird chirping and cawing, dog

panting, cat meowing, etc), nature calling (i.e., thunder, breeze, etc),

mechanical sounds (computer, air conditioner, etc)

>

>

> 3. Since your implant activation do you feel that you can hear and

recognize these types of sounds?

>

> Believe it or not, my current audiogram reveals that my CI hearing

level is now at 10 dB that is above the speech banana! That is

absolutely amazing for me! I heard many more environmental sounds that I

really don't need to hear, but they make me feel alive. I can hear the

" swish " sound when the cars pass by. I can hear the breeze that's coming

out from the vent, and it's very easy for anyone with hearing to filter

it out. I can hear the " buzz " sound from the fluorescent light. I can

hear person's breathing and my clothes moving. I can also hear rhythm of

the blood pressure. I can hear mechanical sounds like water pump or

washing machine in a room that's about 35 feet away. Those sounds were

not expected at all!

>

>

> --Mekutochi

>

> Left Ear -- Cochlear Nucleus Freedom

> Implanted: August 15, 2005

> Activated: August 23, 2005

>

> Right Ear -- Pending

>

> ---------------------------------

> Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using

Messenger with Voice.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Dr. Yell Inverso,

I am confused. I don't see your response anywhere on my post. Was it an

accident that you sent a blank post along with my responses?

Kent

" dr.inverso " <dr.inverso@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Dr. Yell Inverso,

>

> Glad to help, and please let me know if you have any questions or

comments.

>

> 1. Before you got your implant, what were the environmental sounds

that you most felt you needed to hear?

>

> I had enlarged vestibular canals since I was about three years old, so

my hearing declined over time. I'm currently at age 31 years. I've worn

analog and digital hearing aids the whole time, and heard many

environmental sounds (i.e., siren, engine, wind, dog barking, music,

telephone, doorbell, TV, et cetera). I apparently took them for granted.

I couldn't hear the birds chirping, airplanes in the air, et cetera.

>

> 2. Did you have the expectation that post-implantation non-

> linguistic sounds (any sounds that are not speech, i.e. environmental

sounds and music) would be available to you?

>

> I expected to be able to hear the musical equipments (i.e., flutes,

piano, saxophone, etc), animal callings (bird chirping and cawing, dog

panting, cat meowing, etc), nature calling (i.e., thunder, breeze, etc),

mechanical sounds (computer, air conditioner, etc)

>

>

> 3. Since your implant activation do you feel that you can hear and

recognize these types of sounds?

>

> Believe it or not, my current audiogram reveals that my CI hearing

level is now at 10 dB that is above the speech banana! That is

absolutely amazing for me! I heard many more environmental sounds that I

really don't need to hear, but they make me feel alive. I can hear the

" swish " sound when the cars pass by. I can hear the breeze that's coming

out from the vent, and it's very easy for anyone with hearing to filter

it out. I can hear the " buzz " sound from the fluorescent light. I can

hear person's breathing and my clothes moving. I can also hear rhythm of

the blood pressure. I can hear mechanical sounds like water pump or

washing machine in a room that's about 35 feet away. Those sounds were

not expected at all!

>

>

> --Mekutochi

>

> Left Ear -- Cochlear Nucleus Freedom

> Implanted: August 15, 2005

> Activated: August 23, 2005

>

> Right Ear -- Pending

>

> ---------------------------------

> Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using

Messenger with Voice.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yell,

You're welcome, no problem. Music sounds better as time goes on, especially

familiar music. My husband is a church musician. He plays several

instruments, but most usually the flute, at church. Before the CI, I

couldn't even hear the flute, at all. Now, I can hear it fine, and follow

all the music at church. Electronic music isn't as clear as 'real time'

music. The radio has it's ups and downs, depending on how well I know the

music I'm listening to. I'm happy to have any music benefit at all,

actually. I didn't anticipate as big a music benefit as I've gotten. My

main goal was speech discrimination, and music was a hope, so I'm happy with

what I've gotten, and, as I mentioned, it is improving over time. It's

better now than it was a year ago when I was first activated.

Binns

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From: " dr.inverso " <dr.inverso@...>

Reply-

Subject: Re: Non-Linguistic (Engvironmental) sound recognition with

CI

Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 01:34:25 -0000

,

Thank you for your response. I really appreciate your help. How does

music sound to you, do you feel as though you hear and appreciate

music as well as you had anticipated you would?

Thanks

Dr. Inverso, pleaes, call me Yell

>

> Hello Dr. Inverso;

> I'd be happy to answer your questions. I'm late deafened, began

losing my

> hearing at age 38 (I'm 51 now).

>

> 1) I don't know that I 'needed' to hear environmental sounds, as

much as

> missed them, and wanted to hear them. Birds, rain, thunder would

be my top

> picks. After them comes 'everything else'. I want, and expect to

hear most

> everything. I want to hear everything hearing people hear.

>

> 2) I had absolute expectation that I would hear environmental

sounds, as

> well as speech, and that they would be more easily heard and

identified than

> speech.

>

> 3) Since my implant, 1 year ago, I can certainly hear and identify

most

> environmental sounds. Actually it's amusing that if I don't

recognize a

> sound, once I have identified it, I don't forget it again.

>

> Hope this helps! Good luck on your dissertation!

>

> Binns

>

> ----Original Message Follows----

> From: " dr.inverso " <dr.inverso@...>

> Reply-

>

> Subject: Non-Linguistic (Engvironmental) sound recognition

with CI

> Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 00:25:08 -0000

>

> Hello there,

>

> My name is Yell Inverso, and I am an audiologist and researcher who

> has worked with both pre and postlingually deafened CI users for

> years. For my Ph.D. dissertation I am looking into how adult implant

> users feel about environmental or non-linguisic sounds. I have a few

> questions that I would like to ask, would anyone be willing to

answer

> these questions for me? My eventual goal is to help the implant

> companies make these types of sounds, including music, sound better

> with implant processing.

>

> Here are the specific questions I had:

> 1. Before you got your implant, what were the environmental sounds

> that you most felt you needed to hear?

>

> 2. Did you have the expectation that post-implantation non-

> linguistic sounds (any sounds that are not speech, i.e.

environmental

> sounds and music) would be available to you?

>

> 3. Since your implant activation do you feel that you can hear and

> recognize these types of sounds?

>

> Thank you so much in advance for taking the time to answer these

> questions. If anyone has any specific questions for me (or if you

> care to send your responses or personal stories to me in an email),

> you can email me directly at dr.inverso@...

>

> Thank you in advance for your time and consideration,

>

> Dr. Yell Inverso

>

[Guest guest]

Dr. Inverso,

I was happily suprised to see your posting. I have a cochlear implant, I

was implanted about 3 years ago. Before I had my surgery I had expected

that I would hear environmental sounds really easily. My audiologist was

very clear that she could not promise me perfect speech understanding,

but she said that i would be more aware of sounds and that it would help

me to hear if my grandaughter was crying upstairs etc. What is funny is

that I do pretty well with speech, especially if there is not too much

background noise.

After my implant I was really pleased at first, I could hear all sorts

of things, but it took a little while for me to realize that I was not

always hearing what I THOUGHT I was hearing. Somtimes I thought my phone

was ringing, and when I went to answer the phone there was no one there,

I learned later that what I thought was my phone, was actually something

else, like my doorbell or a cooking timer. At first I thought that

these sounds were just new to me after a long time of not hearing them,

I figured they would come later. Unfortunatly though some of them are

still hard to distinguish.

Music is not good at all for me. I have spoken to other people with

implants and a few of them have said they like it, but for me it sounds

like garbage. I am unable to pick up the different instruments and I

find I cannot appreciate it at all.

I have learned through training to attach meaning to some of the sounds

I hear, but they do not sound like the actual memory I have of that

sound. As for the sounds that I would like to hear clearly:

Crying, alarms (smoke alarms, sirens, alarm clocks), telephone ringing,

my pets (I have two cats, a dog, and a bird), I really miss listening to

birds singing. When I am outside I have difficulty hearing the

difference between a car horn and certain sirens.

I hope that this is helpful for you. Do you mind if I ask why you wanted

to know?

Sincerely,

Barbara S.

>

> Hello there,

>

> My name is Yell Inverso, and I am an audiologist and researcher who

> has worked with both pre and postlingually deafened CI users for

> years. For my Ph.D. dissertation I am looking into how adult implant

> users feel about environmental or non-linguisic sounds. I have a few

> questions that I would like to ask, would anyone be willing to answer

> these questions for me? My eventual goal is to help the implant

> companies make these types of sounds, including music, sound better

> with implant processing.

>

> Here are the specific questions I had:

> 1. Before you got your implant, what were the environmental sounds

> that you most felt you needed to hear?

>

> 2. Did you have the expectation that post-implantation non-

> linguistic sounds (any sounds that are not speech, i.e. environmental

> sounds and music) would be available to you?

>

> 3. Since your implant activation do you feel that you can hear and

> recognize these types of sounds?

>

> Thank you so much in advance for taking the time to answer these

> questions. If anyone has any specific questions for me (or if you

> care to send your responses or personal stories to me in an email),

> you can email me directly at dr.inverso@...

>

> Thank you in advance for your time and consideration,

>

> Dr. Yell Inverso

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you Dale for your help

Dr. Inverso

Hello there,

>

> My name is Yell Inverso, and I am an audiologist and researcher

who

> has worked with both pre and postlingually deafened CI users for

> years. For my Ph.D. dissertation I am looking into how adult

implant

> users feel about environmental or non-linguisic sounds. I have a

few

> questions that I would like to ask, would anyone be willing to

answer

> these questions for me? My eventual goal is to help the implant

> companies make these types of sounds, including music, sound

better

> with implant processing.

>

> Here are the specific questions I had:

> 1. Before you got your implant, what were the environmental

sounds

> that you most felt you needed to hear?

>

> 2. Did you have the expectation that post-implantation non-

> linguistic sounds (any sounds that are not speech, i.e.

environmental

> sounds and music) would be available to you?

>

> 3. Since your implant activation do you feel that you can hear

and

> recognize these types of sounds?

>

> Thank you so much in advance for taking the time to answer these

> questions. If anyone has any specific questions for me (or if you

> care to send your responses or personal stories to me in an

email),

> you can email me directly at dr.inverso@...

>

> Thank you in advance for your time and consideration,

>

> Dr. Yell Inverso

>

>

>

>

>

>

>