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chromium picolinate damages dna and can cause mania and should not be

used

gtf forms are much better. gtf chromium yeast i find ok. also you may

find 200 mcg a bit much.

however it may be well absorbed, but i don't think its use is

sustainable, at least you know that chromium does something for you.

> I began taking a small amount of Solaray chromium polynicotinate

> niacin-bound chromium about five days ago (about half of the 200 mcg

> capsule/day split with two meals.) I've gained three pounds in

that time!

> and feel puffy, so maybe it's water/bloat? I also feel a little

irritable

> (fussy? LOL) but I have noticed I don't get headaches after eating

or

> sinking feelings when it's been a few hours since I ate so maybe it

is

> helping with blood sugar rise/fall. I have no dxes but have had

these

> problems most of my adult life.

>

> The niacin component in this product is 2 mg/capsule.

>

> Anyone else have these " side effects " or know if they subside? Any

> comments/insight welcome. Maybe I got the wrong type of chromium,

maybe the

> niacin is to blame?

>

> Kathy IN

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Thank you . I'm sorry what is gtf form of chromium? Is the chromium

polynicotinate form I've got gtf? If use is not sustainable, how will I

know when to stop, is there a time frame?

I wasn't clear in my first post, the capsules are 200mcg but I am only

taking half that, 100mcg/day and split this over two meals.

Thanks,

Kathy IN

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> chromium picolinate damages dna and can cause mania and should not be

> used

>

> gtf forms are much better. gtf chromium yeast i find ok. also you may

> find 200 mcg a bit much.

>

> however it may be well absorbed, but i don't think its use is

> sustainable, at least you know that chromium does something for you.

>

>

> > I began taking a small amount of Solaray chromium polynicotinate

> > niacin-bound chromium about five days ago (about half of the 200 mcg

> > capsule/day split with two meals.) I've gained three pounds in

> that time!

> > and feel puffy, so maybe it's water/bloat? I also feel a little

> irritable

> > (fussy? LOL) but I have noticed I don't get headaches after eating

> or

> > sinking feelings when it's been a few hours since I ate so maybe it

> is

> > helping with blood sugar rise/fall. I have no dxes but have had

> these

> > problems most of my adult life.

> >

> > The niacin component in this product is 2 mg/capsule.

> >

> > Anyone else have these " side effects " or know if they subside? Any

> > comments/insight welcome. Maybe I got the wrong type of chromium,

> maybe the

> > niacin is to blame?

> >

> > Kathy IN

>

>

>

>

>

>

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you may not need to take chromium more than once a day or even once

very several days.

gtf mean glucose tolerance factor which is supposedly a form more

natured to the bodys blood sugar needs

this can be chromium feed yeast which i have tried and seems ok or

there are other more synthetic forms i think

its worth experimenting a bit i think, 100 mcg a day sounds ok but

longer term may need to be reduced. i am not so sure the yeast form

is that sutiable long term cuase of the tendency for yeast corpses to

be exactly the nutrients that yeast in the stomach like.

just had a bottle of solaray chromium gtf yeast arrive 200 mcg, will

post when i gte an idea of how well it is working.

> > > I began taking a small amount of Solaray chromium polynicotinate

> > > niacin-bound chromium about five days ago (about half of the

200 mcg

> > > capsule/day split with two meals.) I've gained three pounds in

> > that time!

> > > and feel puffy, so maybe it's water/bloat? I also feel a little

> > irritable

> > > (fussy? LOL) but I have noticed I don't get headaches after

eating

> > or

> > > sinking feelings when it's been a few hours since I ate so

maybe it

> > is

> > > helping with blood sugar rise/fall. I have no dxes but have had

> > these

> > > problems most of my adult life.

> > >

> > > The niacin component in this product is 2 mg/capsule.

> > >

> > > Anyone else have these " side effects " or know if they subside?

Any

> > > comments/insight welcome. Maybe I got the wrong type of

chromium,

> > maybe the

> > > niacin is to blame?

> > >

> > > Kathy IN

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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In a message dated 14/5/03 9:42:16 pm, alevin@... writes:

> gtf forms are much better. gtf chromium yeast i find ok. also you may

> find 200 mcg a bit much.

>

What is gtf form stand for?

Marti

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Thanks , I will watch for your chromium post.

Kathy IN

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> you may not need to take chromium more than once a day or even once

> very several days.

>

> gtf mean glucose tolerance factor which is supposedly a form more

> natured to the bodys blood sugar needs

>

> this can be chromium feed yeast which i have tried and seems ok or

> there are other more synthetic forms i think

>

> its worth experimenting a bit i think, 100 mcg a day sounds ok but

> longer term may need to be reduced. i am not so sure the yeast form

> is that sutiable long term cuase of the tendency for yeast corpses to

> be exactly the nutrients that yeast in the stomach like.

>

> just had a bottle of solaray chromium gtf yeast arrive 200 mcg, will

> post when i gte an idea of how well it is working.

>

>

> > > > I began taking a small amount of Solaray chromium polynicotinate

> > > > niacin-bound chromium about five days ago (about half of the

> 200 mcg

> > > > capsule/day split with two meals.) I've gained three pounds in

> > > that time!

> > > > and feel puffy, so maybe it's water/bloat? I also feel a little

> > > irritable

> > > > (fussy? LOL) but I have noticed I don't get headaches after

> eating

> > > or

> > > > sinking feelings when it's been a few hours since I ate so

> maybe it

> > > is

> > > > helping with blood sugar rise/fall. I have no dxes but have had

> > > these

> > > > problems most of my adult life.

> > > >

> > > > The niacin component in this product is 2 mg/capsule.

> > > >

> > > > Anyone else have these " side effects " or know if they subside?

> Any

> > > > comments/insight welcome. Maybe I got the wrong type of

> chromium,

> > > maybe the

> > > > niacin is to blame?

> > > >

> > > > Kathy IN

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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> I began taking a small amount of Solaray chromium polynicotinate

> niacin-bound chromium about five days ago (about half of the 200 mcg

> capsule/day split with two meals.) I've gained three pounds in that

time!

> and feel puffy, so maybe it's water/bloat?

When I was researching for my metals page, I learned that there are

several different types of chromium, some are not good. You might

want to check the links I have included here

http://www.danasview.net/metals.htm

> The niacin component in this product is 2 mg/capsule.

Check the total niacin you take each day. I recently met someone with

sensory neuropathy caused by niacin toxicity.

Dana

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Thanks Dana, I read your metals page. The chromium supp I have isn't

labeled with the roman numerals (such as the VI, III you mention) so I guess

I have some further checking out to do.

Kathy IN

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>

> > I began taking a small amount of Solaray chromium polynicotinate

> > niacin-bound chromium about five days ago (about half of the 200 mcg

> > capsule/day split with two meals.) I've gained three pounds in that

> time!

> > and feel puffy, so maybe it's water/bloat?

>

>

> When I was researching for my metals page, I learned that there are

> several different types of chromium, some are not good. You might

> want to check the links I have included here

>

> http://www.danasview.net/metals.htm

>

>

> > The niacin component in this product is 2 mg/capsule.

>

>

> Check the total niacin you take each day. I recently met someone with

> sensory neuropathy caused by niacin toxicity.

>

> Dana

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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In a message dated 9/23/03 8:54:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

jrnytthpst@... writes:

<< Does anyone know if chromium really helps metabolism and aid in

weight loss? Any info on this would be great. I did not see

anything in the archives.

Thanks,

Ali >>

I just read in a medical magazine last month that in scientific tests

Chromium has NOT shown any benefits in weight loss. In tests with mice it

actually

showed that it can damage DNA strands in the doses it has been used for weight

loss. I was on it for years (with no benefit) in my early 20's, so of course

reading this scared the crap out of me! The things we do to our bodies to be

skinny amaze me...

Hope you are well!

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It sounds like the one you recieved has a picoliniate ending. These

kids don't do well with supplements with picoliniate endings. I

once tried a Zinc picoliniate formula for the boys, and they were

unable to go to sleep at night. It was obvious they couldn't

tolerate it.

I, too, am interested in the chromium. My kids showed low blood

sugar in their blood tests, and they seem to have blood sugar

issues. I am hoping some of this is yeast.

Miti

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > theres a goat farm near hear and when the feeds good for the

> > goats

> > > > the mik is superb!!! theres nothing to beat good raw goats

milk

> > > but

> > > > when the grass dries out the milk is not really worth

> > > > drinking .................

> > > >

> > > > its a lot easier tolerated than cow milk.

> > > >

> > > > yeh i do find grapes feed yeast, grape juice in particular

seems

> > a

> > > > problem but juicy single peeled grapes are ok. cows cream has

> > > natural

> > > > anti fungals in which with zinc seem to keep the fungal side

> > under

> > > > control. theres only one brand of real cows cream here in

> > > tasmania,

> > > > even the organic stuff dependns on the feed quality but the

king

> > > > island cream is in a class of its own! the betta cream is

seaweed

> > > > thickener and milk fat as far as i can see, its digraceful.

> > > >

> > > > also cows cream should have minimal lactose in.

> > > >

> > > > what of the problems with scd is it is the american commodity

> > > > thinking, like a food is a food but there are huge

differences in

> > > > suitability depending on how it is grown and processed like

with

> > > this

> > > > cream.

> > > >

> > > > i think you are going to need some suplementaion as well, you

> > > really

> > > > have to get up to the point of dairy tolerance to make this

sort

> > > of

> > > > diet work.

> > > >

> > > > you can skin fruit, peel veges to lower phenol content but

> > > > mineralisation has also to be looked at. cooking fruit can

help

> > > but

> > > > really as angie maccauley says - moderation- be careful not

to

> > > have

> > > > to much fruit.

> > > >

> > > > along with cream bone marrow fat is excellent because its

not a

> > > fatty

> > > > sort of fat and isn't ketonic, you just slice it and fry it

then

> > > eat

> > > > it. the butcher will cut the knuckles off the end of the

bone if

> > > you

> > > > ask to make for easier carrying and you split it with an axe

or

> > > the

> > > > butcher may even cut the bone long ways so you don't need to

axe

> > > it.

> > > >

> > > > without the cream i start to go a bit batty.

> > > >

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CHROMIUM Vital in the synthesis of glucose and the metabolism of cholesterol, fats and proteins. Maintains blood pressure and blood sugar levels. HERBAL SOURCES: Catnip, horsetail, licorice, nettle, oat straw, red clover, sarsaparilla, wild yam, yarrow. Suzi What is a weed? A plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered. health/ http://suziesgoats.wholefoodfarmacy.com/ http://360./suziesgoats __________________________________________________

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