Re: Oprah Show re Gastric Bypass

[Guest guest]

I watched the show, and as you said, it just solidified Oprah's bias against

weight-loss surgery. I was surprised that she didn't have guests that have had

very positive outcomes from WLS, both emotionally and physically. Maybe that is

another show. I may even send her show an e-mail and ask them when are they

going to interview people that have had very successful outcomes from having

WLS. I was VERY disappointed in Oprah and the way the show was produced. I

think Carnie put it best when she said that she had always had a very

addictive personality and had been addicted to pot, food, etc., BEFORE she had

WLS. She put the blame on HERSELF and did not fault or use WLS as the reason

for any addiction she had after WLS.

As for me, I have not substituted my " addiction " for food for a new addiction

since my MGB. As my son put it, " it's called choice and being in control of

your behaviors. "

Herder

Burlington, KS

259-143 7/15/02 Dr. R.

Jami <JamiGoldWing@...> wrote:

I've just finished watching the Oprah Show regarding gastric

bypass. Her guests were Carnie and several other women who

have lost a lot of weight through gastric bypass. The thrust of the

show was that since these women lost their weight without first

resolving the underlying problem(s) that made them overeat in the

first place, they then fell victim to something called " addiction

transference " in which, since they are no longer physically capable

of overeating, their addiction to food has become re-manifest as

addiction to alcohol. They had all been either non-drinkers or very

light drinkers before their gastric bypasses. In conjunction with

her alcoholism, one of the women also became a sex addict, embarking

on a string of one-night stands.

The women all said that they had expected gastric bypass to solve

all of their problems, but in fact they are much unhappier now than

they were when they were obese.

It was a very interesting and thought-provoking show, and it

certainly seemed to solidify and entrench Oprah's already-existing

bias against weight loss surgery.

I would be very interested in hearing whether any of you have

experienced " addiction transference " since having your MGB.

Comments, anyone?

JamiGoldWing

1/13/04

271/162

[Guest guest]

I think there is a physical addiction going on here too. When I used to go

to OA and Food Addicts Annonymous, it was full of recovering alcoholics that

had been told that when they craved alcohol, have a hot fudge sundae. I

experience the intense sugar cravings still, especially when I'm tired. I also

agree that the addiction transference is a problem, these days I will go

clothes shopping! Not to excess though. IT's an interesting topic, and I

agree

Oprah is against weight loss surgery. She still struggles with her weight

gains, up and down, and she has the luxury of a private chef, trainer, etc.

barb dudley, high point, oct 15, 2003, 242/140ish

[Guest guest]

10/25/2006, JamiGoldWing@... writes: << I would be very interested

in hearing whether any of you have experienced " addiction transference " since

having your MGB.

Comments, anyone?>>

I smoked cigarettes for 13 years, quit for 15 years, and just picked it up

again last year. Not sure it was a true addiction trade, as my MGB was in

2003, but I did/do find myself increasingly looking for some " vice " .

Best regards,

Patty Arthur

5'3 " , 253/145.5/???

8/25/03, MGB, Stsvl, Drs. R & Chery

*** please choose your Plastic Surgeon wisely *** Avoid costly mistakes and

make sure that they SPECIALIZE in WLS patients !!! ***

12/2/04, TT & BA: 5/31/05, Arm tuck, donut lift, TT rev, Legs lipo: 8/25/05,

Thighs: Chlt, Dr.P.Tucker

8/16/06, *corrections* to legs, Mastopexy w/implant removal: Chlt, Dr. S. Don

[Guest guest]

Im a shopoholic now... Does that count????

Shann

On 10/25/06 8:20 PM, " NCGorgeous1963@... " <NCGorgeous1963@...>

wrote:

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> 10/25/2006, JamiGoldWing@... writes: << I would be very interested

> in hearing whether any of you have experienced " addiction transference " since

> having your MGB.

> Comments, anyone?>>

>

>

>

> I smoked cigarettes for 13 years, quit for 15 years, and just picked it up

> again last year. Not sure it was a true addiction trade, as my MGB was in

> 2003, but I did/do find myself increasingly looking for some " vice " .

>

>

>

> Best regards,

> Patty Arthur

> 5'3 " , 253/145.5/???

> 8/25/03, MGB, Stsvl, Drs. R & Chery

> *** please choose your Plastic Surgeon wisely *** Avoid costly mistakes and

> make sure that they SPECIALIZE in WLS patients !!! ***

> 12/2/04, TT & BA: 5/31/05, Arm tuck, donut lift, TT rev, Legs lipo: 8/25/05,

> Thighs: Chlt, Dr.P.Tucker

> 8/16/06, *corrections* to legs, Mastopexy w/implant removal: Chlt, Dr. S. Don

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I respectfully disagree. I don't think she was " biased " .. the topic

of the show was talking about addictions post bypass surgery. She

was not I don't believe talking about bypass surgery in general.

Carnie has been very public about her struggles with alcoholism. I

think the show ultimately was trying to help those who may not feel

comfortable talking about their problems.

I do believe she thinks that there is a " better way " but I have heard

her talk to people in a positive way about their surgery.

On an addiction note .. I have to say honestly I am STILL addicted to

food and always will be I think. Do I gain weight .. yes! Do

I " binge " when I am hungry, angry,lonely or tired (HALT) just like

before my surgery .. sometimes! Did the surgery " cure " me of

anything ... no!

But, more importantly .. am I better off than I was ... ABSOLUTELY!

Would I do it again ... ABSOLUTELY if I had to!

in GA

> I've just finished watching the Oprah Show regarding gastric

> bypass. Her guests were Carnie and several other women who

> have lost a lot of weight through gastric bypass. The thrust of the

> show was that since these women lost their weight without first

> resolving the underlying problem(s) that made them overeat in the

> first place, they then fell victim to something called " addiction

> transference " in which, since they are no longer physically capable

> of overeating, their addiction to food has become re-manifest as

> addiction to alcohol. They had all been either non-drinkers or very

> light drinkers before their gastric bypasses. In conjunction with

> her alcoholism, one of the women also became a sex addict,

embarking

> on a string of one-night stands.

>

> The women all said that they had expected gastric bypass to solve

> all of their problems, but in fact they are much unhappier now than

> they were when they were obese.

>

> It was a very interesting and thought-provoking show, and it

> certainly seemed to solidify and entrench Oprah's already-existing

> bias against weight loss surgery.

>

> I would be very interested in hearing whether any of you have

> experienced " addiction transference " since having your MGB.

> Comments, anyone?

>

> JamiGoldWing

> 1/13/04

> 271/162

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Shann, how are you? When is the baby due? Sometimes when my 12 year old

wants to hang out in the stores, I will go and while she is off with her friend,

I try on tons of clothes, just because I can! Let me know how you are doing

with your pregnancy. Is your boyfriend back yet? Barb Dudley,

[Guest guest]

Well I have to admit that I did have some problems with alcohol. Prior to

MGB I was a light social drinker. After MGB I didn't drink at all for 6

months and then I tried a drink. Well it metabolized in my body way

differently

than it had prior to MGB and I loved the way it felt. My problem is that I

didn't know when to stop. This hadn't been a problem before. I had times when

I drank to the point where my hubby had to carry me upstairs and I made a

fool of myself in front of people. This continued for almost two years. Last

December my daughter (12) confronted me and told me how much it was

bothering her. I made a commitment to quit for a year. I've kept the

commitment and

am much much happier for it. I've come to the conclusion that with my

different physiology after surgery it is a very bad idea for me to drink at all

so

have no plans on ever drinking again. (Gee, isn't that what Dr. R said to do

in the first place?)

Gretchen

[Guest guest]

Im doin well. Im due in 4 weeks. Pregnancy is going great. Im up 19 lbs...

He is back and doing well.

Im ready to get this baby out and lose that weight again...

Hehe

Shann

On 10/26/06 8:24 PM, " barbboomer@... " <barbboomer@...> wrote:

> Shann, how are you? When is the baby due? Sometimes when my 12 year old

> wants to hang out in the stores, I will go and while she is off with her

> friend,

> I try on tons of clothes, just because I can! Let me know how you are doing

> with your pregnancy. Is your boyfriend back yet? Barb Dudley,

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I would suspect that many women who lose a significant amount of weight

by any method may be " easier " to give in to sexual advances because

having been previously " undesirable, " they were not subjected to many

" opportunities " to " be bad. " On the other hand, there are a lot of

guys who will seek out overweight women because they perceive that not

getting many " offers, " they will be easy. I'm not sure this phenomenon

actually has to do with addiction transference.

I was a young adult in the late '60's, early '70's and was the epitome

of " sex, drugs and rock'n'roll. " But that was before AIDS, rampant

TSD's, and menopause.

These days, I'm more into compatibility, companionship, and trust....

and a free dinner (of which I always take half home :-)

in Atlanta