Guest guest Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 Hello All, I have an appt. for my son with his ENT tomarrow & I'm trying to do all the study that I can to make my case for having a CT scan done on my son. The last time we were in to see the ENT, he " poo-pooed " my concerns that perhaps something more serious than just another ear infection was going on. I would be most grateful to any of you who would be willing to read over this list of symptoms my son has and give me your opinion of whether you think the symptoms are consistant for cholesteatoma or something else. Thank you so much! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SOME BACKGROUND AND HIS SYMPTOMS ~My son is 16 years old, big (not overweight), strong and otherwise healthy. Very good immune system. Usually the last one in the family to get sick, if at all. We homeschool so his exposures to colds and germs is not as great. We eat a healthy diet. ~He's never had even just a mild ear infection until age 12 or 13. ~Since then, ear infections have been re-ocurring regularly, becoming more prolific in this past year or so. ~Can effect either side. ~LEFT side seems to be most problematic. ~One doctor has said that he has shorter ear canals and will have a harder time than most people keeping ears free of build-up however, a specialist noted that although he does have shorter ear canals, he felt they weren't that much shorter that it'd make any difference. ~When infections flare up his sympotoms are : pressure and pain, impaired hearing and nerve pain in the ear, redness and swelling sometimes so great that the jawline and side of his face will be sore and swollen, too. ~When his ears are cleaned by the doctor the wax is impacted (even though he is careful with the use of Q-tips) and can be troublesome to get out. ~Wet lavages have worked but then result in a swimmer's ear infection; we don't allow wet lavages any longer. ~Last cleaning was by " vacuuming " at the ENT's office. He said that it was an outer ear infection, culture was negative for fungus. The ear was black through the otoscope. My son was given strong anti- bacterial drops and within a week, the infection cleared. The ENT did not think any further checking or testing was warranted. He said if the infection comes back to just begin the drops again. ~Since that appt., we began ear candling to try to keep infections away. ~An infection was building again last week so I candled my son's ear. He said the pressure was relieved about 90% as the draining began that evening. From that time until last night (4 days), he has been getting blood, brownish material, and black with whitish material coming out. It's mostly been black stuff that comes out on the Q-tip. Sometimes, he can actually feel something " breaking loose " or coming down and he knows when to get a Q-tip and get it out. ~There is an odor to the drainage. ~Hearing is diminished in left ear. ~In the past few months, while playing basketball, he has experienced several occasions of a sudden onset of general weakness. This doesn't happen every time - just a few times. ~Experience lightheadedness but NOT a vertigo type experience. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I spoke to the ENT's office today and they are fitting him in tomarrow to be rechecked, however they are already indicating that they won't order a CT for an outer ear infection. I suggested that perhaps it's not only an outer ear infection and that there may be something more going on that warrants closer look. They were hesitant but said to come in for the recheck anywise. Thank you VERY MUCH for any information you can send my way. I was so glad to find your group! Blessings, Luanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 I would say get to another ENT. He has a lot of symptoms, although, if this happens in both ears there may be something going on other than c'toma. I would try to get a second opinion. There is obviously something going on other than the basic ear infection. Have they tried placing tubes in his ears? My son had an outer ear infection for 4 months, we treated with a number of antibiotics and it would never go away. Finally saw and ENT that decided something else was going on. We saw about 6 different docs over that 4 months before we found one that did a CT scan. If you could even get them to try tubes, it would at least get a surgeon in there to look more closely at his ears. >From: " dereksbride88 " <dereksbride88@...> >Reply-cholesteatoma >cholesteatoma >Subject: What do you think? Signs of Cholesteatoma??? >Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 22:58:21 -0000 > >Hello All, > >I have an appt. for my son with his ENT tomarrow & I'm trying to do >all the study that I can to make my case for having a CT scan done >on my son. The last time we were in to see the ENT, he " poo-pooed " >my concerns that perhaps something more serious than just another >ear infection was going on. > >I would be most grateful to any of you who would be willing to read >over this list of symptoms my son has and give me your opinion of >whether you think the symptoms are consistant for cholesteatoma or >something else. Thank you so much! > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >SOME BACKGROUND AND HIS SYMPTOMS >~My son is 16 years old, big (not overweight), strong and otherwise >healthy. Very good immune system. Usually the last one in the family >to get sick, if at all. We homeschool so his exposures to colds and >germs is not as great. We eat a healthy diet. > >~He's never had even just a mild ear infection until age 12 or 13. >~Since then, ear infections have been re-ocurring regularly, >becoming more prolific in this past year or so. >~Can effect either side. >~LEFT side seems to be most problematic. >~One doctor has said that he has shorter ear canals and will have a >harder time than most people keeping ears free of build-up however, >a specialist noted that although he does have shorter ear canals, he >felt they weren't that much shorter that it'd make any difference. >~When infections flare up his sympotoms are : pressure and pain, >impaired hearing and nerve pain in the ear, redness and swelling >sometimes so great that the jawline and side of his face will be >sore and swollen, too. >~When his ears are cleaned by the doctor the wax is impacted (even >though he is careful with the use of Q-tips) and can be troublesome >to get out. >~Wet lavages have worked but then result in a swimmer's ear >infection; we don't allow wet lavages any longer. >~Last cleaning was by " vacuuming " at the ENT's office. He said that >it was an outer ear infection, culture was negative for fungus. The >ear was black through the otoscope. My son was given strong anti- >bacterial drops and within a week, the infection cleared. The ENT >did not think any further checking or testing was warranted. He said >if the infection comes back to just begin the drops again. >~Since that appt., we began ear candling to try to keep infections >away. >~An infection was building again last week so I candled my son's >ear. He said the pressure was relieved about 90% as the draining >began that evening. From that time until last night (4 days), he has >been getting blood, brownish material, and black with whitish >material coming out. It's mostly been black stuff that comes out on >the Q-tip. Sometimes, he can actually feel something " breaking >loose " or coming down and he knows when to get a Q-tip and get it >out. >~There is an odor to the drainage. >~Hearing is diminished in left ear. >~In the past few months, while playing basketball, he has >experienced several occasions of a sudden onset of general weakness. >This doesn't happen every time - just a few times. >~Experience lightheadedness but NOT a vertigo type experience. >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >I spoke to the ENT's office today and they are fitting him in >tomarrow to be rechecked, however they are already indicating that >they won't order a CT for an outer ear infection. I suggested that >perhaps it's not only an outer ear infection and that there may be >something more going on that warrants closer look. They were >hesitant but said to come in for the recheck anywise. > >Thank you VERY MUCH for any information you can send my way. I was >so glad to find your group! > >Blessings, >Luanne > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2006 Report Share Posted February 28, 2006 I was diagnosed a few weeks ago, W/O a CT scan. But, as I understand it, this is NOT something that is diagnosed through an otoscope. However if the ENT 'vacuumed' as you say, he probably did it while viewing the eardrum through a microscope. This device allows the doc to see much better and should be able to see this that way. All in all if you don't feel comfortable, a second opinion is definitely in order. Hope it all works out for your son, Sue --- dereksbride88 <dereksbride88@...> wrote: > Hello All, > > I have an appt. for my son with his ENT tomarrow & > I'm trying to do > all the study that I can to make my case for having > a CT scan done > on my son. The last time we were in to see the ENT, > he " poo-pooed " > my concerns that perhaps something more serious than > just another > ear infection was going on. > > I would be most grateful to any of you who would be > willing to read > over this list of symptoms my son has and give me > your opinion of > whether you think the symptoms are consistant for > cholesteatoma or > something else. Thank you so much! > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > SOME BACKGROUND AND HIS SYMPTOMS > ~My son is 16 years old, big (not overweight), > strong and otherwise > healthy. Very good immune system. Usually the last > one in the family > to get sick, if at all. We homeschool so his > exposures to colds and > germs is not as great. We eat a healthy diet. > > ~He's never had even just a mild ear infection until > age 12 or 13. > ~Since then, ear infections have been re-ocurring > regularly, > becoming more prolific in this past year or so. > ~Can effect either side. > ~LEFT side seems to be most problematic. > ~One doctor has said that he has shorter ear canals > and will have a > harder time than most people keeping ears free of > build-up however, > a specialist noted that although he does have > shorter ear canals, he > felt they weren't that much shorter that it'd make > any difference. > ~When infections flare up his sympotoms are : > pressure and pain, > impaired hearing and nerve pain in the ear, redness > and swelling > sometimes so great that the jawline and side of his > face will be > sore and swollen, too. > ~When his ears are cleaned by the doctor the wax is > impacted (even > though he is careful with the use of Q-tips) and can > be troublesome > to get out. > ~Wet lavages have worked but then result in a > swimmer's ear > infection; we don't allow wet lavages any longer. > ~Last cleaning was by " vacuuming " at the ENT's > office. He said that > it was an outer ear infection, culture was negative > for fungus. The > ear was black through the otoscope. My son was given > strong anti- > bacterial drops and within a week, the infection > cleared. The ENT > did not think any further checking or testing was > warranted. He said > if the infection comes back to just begin the drops > again. > ~Since that appt., we began ear candling to try to > keep infections > away. > ~An infection was building again last week so I > candled my son's > ear. He said the pressure was relieved about 90% as > the draining > began that evening. From that time until last night > (4 days), he has > been getting blood, brownish material, and black > with whitish > material coming out. It's mostly been black stuff > that comes out on > the Q-tip. Sometimes, he can actually feel something > " breaking > loose " or coming down and he knows when to get a > Q-tip and get it > out. > ~There is an odor to the drainage. > ~Hearing is diminished in left ear. > ~In the past few months, while playing basketball, > he has > experienced several occasions of a sudden onset of > general weakness. > This doesn't happen every time - just a few times. > ~Experience lightheadedness but NOT a vertigo type > experience. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > I spoke to the ENT's office today and they are > fitting him in > tomarrow to be rechecked, however they are already > indicating that > they won't order a CT for an outer ear infection. I > suggested that > perhaps it's not only an outer ear infection and > that there may be > something more going on that warrants closer look. > They were > hesitant but said to come in for the recheck > anywise. > > Thank you VERY MUCH for any information you can send > my way. I was > so glad to find your group! > > Blessings, > Luanne > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Hi, I am a mm of a daughter with ctoma. The symptoms sound very similar to hers. We went through the appt.s like you describe for 8 years before a Cat scan revealed ctoma. Personally, I would go to another prationer who would do a cat scan. Sallie,also a homeschooler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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