a question of smell?

[Guest guest]

Randy,

I remember the incident clearly, he wasn't being disciplined for the

selling of an offensive shirt, but for the peashooter incident. You were

questioning whether he had a right to be there at which point I stated that his

presence was a privilege not a right. This seemed to crystalize your previous

concerns.

I am not opposed to following a principle of due process for LPA. I was

not on the board or executive committee when his situation was handled. It was

during a break when you approached me in the lobby. I further agree that a

person should not be kicked out just because she/he is not liked; needless to

say their hygiene or choice of perfume/cologne.

Davey

Re: I'm all for democracy

Davey,

I don't quite remember 2003 the way you do:

> I'm reminded of the conversation you and I had at the 2003

national convention when you were senior vice-president. It

concerned Danny Black and his involvement in the expo. You mentioned

that he had a right, to which I replied it wasn't a right but a

privilege conferred upon him. You agreed. I hope this post

clarifies my position here also.

In that case, Danny Black was being disciplined by LPA for either the

peashooter indicent or for selling an offensive shirt. I was

suggesting that he had the right to due process. You indicated that

since we were a private organization and not the government that due

process did not apply.

In principle, I agreed (and still agree) with that. However, since

LPA is such a diverse organization and we have very few requirements

for membership, we will have discipline problems (like underage

drinking, etc.). While due process is not generally a requirement of

private organizations like LPA, I believe in consideration of our

circumstances, it is necessary - if for nothing else - the continued

interpretation of our bylaws and policy manual.

The Danny Black situation in 2003 - regardless of Danny's

culpability - set a very bad precedent in LPA in that any officer can

rally the troops and kick out any member just because they don't like

them or because they smell bad. I believe we need to change this and

I am interested in your views on this subject now.

Heck, if you win, I volunteer to be your chief justice!

Randy_________

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