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Gentlemen the language. Please remember this is supposed to be a PG

room. There are kids who read this (mine happening to be one of them).

Chass Brown A.K.A.

Charinthalis Del Sans of the portable chariot. 

Honorable Recruiter of the House of the Red Shark.

Rear Admiral Northern Region Ansteorran Royal Navy -      Ship the

Red  Shark.  Muddeler of Mead

I " ll put this in the " not fan mail category "

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Yes Tony I make wine and mead, its not illegal and my small can not get

to it. I do not use profanity. This list is supposed to be PG. I don’t

like it that every time I post you flame me. If you have a problem get a

psychiatrist, instead of flaming people.

Chass Brown A.K.A.

Charinthalis Del Sans of the portable chariot. 

Honorable Recruiter of the House of the Red Shark.

Rear Admiral Northern Region Ansteorran Royal Navy -      Ship the

Red  Shark.  Muddeler of Mead

Re: RE: I " ll put this in the " not fan mail category "

Oh yes, from the man that was preaching the benefits of making Mead and

other intoxicants at home...

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Tony,

I know that you are now a member of the LDS church, and that alcohol is

forbidden (or has that changed?).

But since ancient times, fermented beverages have been a staple of human

consumption. In fact, it was only recently (within the past 200 years) that

restrictions on children drinking wine and ale was imposed on Western

society. You see, the alcohol killed all the microbes that might

contaminating a water supply. Even today, many countries in Europe have no

problems with kids drinking wine or beer (at home, in moderation).

I'm not advocating for minors to be drinking. But chastising someone for

making beer in their own house is a far cry from asking someone to use

polite language publicly in the presence of children.

(In fact, I almost feel like an idiot for responding to your flame. Much

ado about nothing.)

Bill

(And yes, I too am a religious person, and yes, we drink real wine at

communion. A practice dating back to ancient Israel.)

On 5/18/06, tonysoares@... <tonysoares@...> wrote:

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> Oh yes, from the man that was preaching the benefits of making Mead and

> other intoxicants at home...

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I was just having fun.

As for my view on drinking and My LDS Faith. I am not perfect.

The Word of Wisdom is doctrine that is intended to keep the inner

body pure.

I believe Muslims, Hindu, and Buddhists also avoid it.

Many think avoiding Tea, Coffee and Alchohol is hogwash, I did too.

But Last year I was losing my voice from damage

( Many rejoiced) due to Acid reflux burns in my Larynx.

The first thing mu ENT told me to cease immediately was all TEA,

Coffee, Caffeine, Alcohol and Smoking.

I never smoked, drank tea, but was huge on coffee and wine.

So whatever the LDS prophits were led to follow in 1897, came to be

in the 20-21st Centuries.

However I am not perfect in these areas and I don't preach or tell

anyone not to drink

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Just so's nobody accusses this thread of post as having nothing to do with

Dwarfism......

Salt Lake City, the home of the LDS, has an achondroplastic dwarf in their

family!!!!

A branch of my 'tree' emigrated there, all became Mormon and then one had a

daughter the ilk of me!

So, I tell everyone, " We have a pair of Shorts " in our tree!

Bless you Karolyn!

Fred

Re: RE: I " ll put this in the " not fan mail category "

Hey Bill,

Like Tony I am also LDS (or for those who do not understand initials, Mormon)

We are NOT forbidden anything! We have been given certain promises if we obey

certain principles... an entirely different playing field all together than the

dogmatic " FORBIDDING. "

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Davey:

Are good leaders not supposed to build consensus and get everyone

running in the same direction?

I think your stragety of " open diaglogue " has done more to promote

arguments than to build consensus. Certainly your public posting of

this private response suggests this and does little for my confidence

in your leadership ability.

I can sympathize with your platform and I respect that you are taking a

stand - though I do not agree with it. But, that's not what bothers me.

Your conduct and your behaviour are sabotaging your campaign. I would

suggest that you start focusing on the issues - like I said in an

earlier post - and stop whining about what others think of you. You

have already lost me as a supporter and it's time for damage control.

As for Rose, Whims, and the rest of the list, please forgive me, but

I've just about had enough. (I did delete the post with the foul

language.) I felt this had to be shared publicly.

Thanks,

Randy (not Bill) Bradford

>

> Ah, my first true love letter. This reminds me of a voice-mail I

once received from a girlfriend of a client of mine. In her message

she called me a " funky, disrespectul bitch " - to which my friend Celia

said, " Okay Davey, disrespectful, no question - and bitch, well

probably - but there's not any way you're funky. " To which I

replied, " Celia, I guess you didn't know it, but I'm the funkmeister. "

> Okay, to give a response - since this may be some folks idea of

taking the high road - I don't really try that often to look at my

face. I think I'm with you on that one - as the kid's say, I hear your

noise and smell your cooking (from Letterman). Er, and the " Wake

up you lps that have never seen this guy... " - I'm sure you meant who

instead of that.

> Lastly, you're not from New Jersey also, are you?

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Fred,

If what you are stating is, there are pairs of Short's all around the world,

correct. So there would the pairs in England being the damp Short's, from all of

that Fog that London is so famous for, and those who are out there in Utah, as

they would be the dry Short's, since Salt Lake is so hot during the Summer

months, leaving us with a pair of wet and dry Short's in your family tree,

right, roflmao.

Rob

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Re: RE: I " ll put this in the " not fan mail category "

Hey Bill,

Like Tony I am also LDS (or for those who do not understand initials,

Mormon) We are NOT forbidden anything! We have been given certain promises if we

obey certain principles... an entirely different playing field all together than

the dogmatic " FORBIDDING. "

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Sorry Fred, I didn't notice the typo until it was sent. The correction is below.

Re: RE: I " ll put this in the " not fan mail category "

Hey Bill,

Like Tony I am also LDS (or for those who do not understand initials,

Mormon) We are NOT forbidden anything! We have been given certain promises if we

obey certain principles... an entirely different playing field all together than

the dogmatic " FORBIDDING. "

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