Re: question about pain meds BEFORE surgery

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In a message dated 11/8/2006 12:01:39 A.M. Central Standard Time, everyothername.istaken@... writes:

hi y'all.

my question for you all is: what kind of pain meds were you on BEFORE your surgery, what mg. and how often, and did they help a lot, a little or not at all? thanks.

lindy lou

Hi, I was just on Tylenol and Motrin. I took the normal dosage of Tylenol every 4 hours and a prescription Motrin 800 mgs, I think twice a day. If they didn't help a little I would hate to have had to deal with it without them. I just told myself that they worked.

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prescription Motrin 800 mgs, I think twice a day. If they didn't help a little I would hate to have had to deal with it without them. I just told myself that they worked.

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From: Joint Replacement [mailto:Joint Replacement ] On Behalf Of lindySent: 08 November, 2006 7:52 AMTJRSubject: question about pain meds BEFORE surgery

hi y'all.

my question for you all is: what kind of pain meds were you on BEFORE your surgery, what mg. and how often, and did they help a lot, a little or not at all? thanks.

lindy lou

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At 11:52 PM 11/7/2006 -0600, you wrote:

hi

y'all.

my question for you

all is: what kind of pain meds were you on BEFORE your surgery, what mg.

and how often, and did they help a lot, a little or not at all?

thanks.

lindy

lou

I was on Celebrex 2X a day - worked like a charm for me. I really

DIDN'T have that much pain.....which is almost a pity, because what I'm

going through now is much worse than what I had before surgery!

BUT....I still think I was wise to do it now, because my muscles have not

atrophied. At least that's what I'm telling myself!

LOL

Anni

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I had a TKR on Nov. 15 '06. I was in severe pain all that summer,

couldn't stand up straight; after an MRI I learned that I had 3

herniated lumbar disks. For 3 months I saw different doctors & had

various meds: Medrol (steroid), ultram, other opiate/analgesic tabs,

a patch, cortisone injections in my spine...also PT with traction.

Gradually I got able to stand & walk & got off the pain meds by late

August.

Then I found out my knee wouldn't bear my weight any more. I was

taking 200 mg. Celebrex once a day, which worked for a while, but I

got really tired of having to lean on something all the time. Hence

the TKR, & more pain meds for 6 weeks.

I was doing fine for 6 months, but my hip (same side) was getting

worse as I was walking more. Just can't win! I'm still taking the

Celebrex, which helps for a few hours, then I take 1-2 Aleve in the

afternoon if I'm hurting a lot. I'm waiting for a date for THR now.

Barb

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I took Celebrex twice a day and four to six Ultracet (a combination of Tylenol and Tramadol) as needed. Sorry I don't recall the milligrams right now Ann, but they were the maximum dosages. I was allowed up to eight Ultracet a day, but rarely needed that many. Like Anni, I was feeling pretty good over the past summer. Heat and humidity were at a record high in Virginia. I also got a shot of cortisone in my hips, which also did amazing things for my knees. But the x-rays didn't change, the knees were deteriorating. And though I was feeling good, I was still limiting my activities -- no longs walks or mowing the yard. I knew winter would bring back the aches and pains. I could have put surgery off for another year or two and got by. But I also had put my life on hold. Now I'm looking forward to moving on. Warm regards, Donna Ann Lauer <aelauer@...> wrote: At 11:52 PM 11/7/2006 -0600, you wrote: hi y'all.my question for you all is: what kind of pain meds were you on BEFORE your surgery, what mg. and how often, and did they help a lot, a little or not at all? thanks.lindy louI was on Celebrex 2X a day - worked like a charm for me. I really DIDN'T have that much pain.....which is almost a pity, because what I'm going through now is much worse than what I had before surgery! BUT....I still think I was wise to do it now, because my muscles have not atrophied. At least that's what I'm telling myself! LOLAnni

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thanks for all your responses to this thread -- i had to come to the

list to read because for some reason i'm not receiving msgs. at

my server.

well i have had 1 cortisone shot directly into my hip joint which

only lasted about 2 months tops, after that, the doctor didn't give

me anymore, said it wasn't worth it.

i've tried every kind of antiinflamatory there is and i cannot

tolerate any of them due to my stomach.

so for pain i take tylenol3. my primary doctor left his practice in

september and the doctor i'm now going to decreased my dose. i was

taking 1 to 2 tablets every 4 to 6 hours as needed. the new doc

won't let me take more than 3 tablets a day and told me not to take

them unless i absolutely need them. HELLO! i'm in pain every second

of every day. i hate this new doctor because she also took me off

(cold turkey) my ativan so now, in addition to more pain, i'm also

having panic attacks and i'm having bad withdrawal. there should be

a law against someone doing this to a person. i mean, if my x-ray

shows i have no cartiledge and need a hip replacement well then DUH,

i must be in pain. i'd like to see her get through the pain we're

all in here on this list w/o a pain med. so, i called the

orthopaedic surgeon to ask if there's anything he can do for me for

my pain until i have surgery and he said no, he only treats AFTER

SURGERY pain. well that tells me a lot about him, like that he

doesn't give a hoot about my well being, only his pocket. so i spent

all day trying to find a new primary care and a new OS and i did and

i have appts for next week. i just pray they're more understanding.

i understand that a couple months before surgery one should cut back,

but if i cut back, i won't be taking anything and as it is now,

living alone while hubby is on the ship, i can't do ANYthing. hell,

my dishes went for 2 weeks before i could stand to do them. going to

the grocery store and to get my meds is like torture, i can't hardly

do it and i cry all the way home, on the drive, because i'm hurting

so bad. i've been so depressed lately, wondering if i'll ever find a

doctor who really cares about me, and not his pocket -- the doctor

who left his practice was one such doctor, and he's the only doctor

in my 58 years who has ever listened to me. now i'm back at square

one. sorry for all the whining, but i hurt and i'm irritible and i

want to scream as loud as i can.

lindy lou

>

> I had a TKR on Nov. 15 '06. I was in severe pain all that summer,

> couldn't stand up straight; after an MRI I learned that I had 3

> herniated lumbar disks. For 3 months I saw different doctors & had

> various meds: Medrol (steroid), ultram, other opiate/analgesic

tabs,

> a patch, cortisone injections in my spine...also PT with traction.

> Gradually I got able to stand & walk & got off the pain meds by late

> August.

> Then I found out my knee wouldn't bear my weight any more. I was

> taking 200 mg. Celebrex once a day, which worked for a while, but I

> got really tired of having to lean on something all the time. Hence

> the TKR, & more pain meds for 6 weeks.

> I was doing fine for 6 months, but my hip (same side) was getting

> worse as I was walking more. Just can't win! I'm still taking the

> Celebrex, which helps for a few hours, then I take 1-2 Aleve in the

> afternoon if I'm hurting a lot. I'm waiting for a date for THR now.

>

> Barb

>

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Hi Lindy Lou I'm so sorry you are in so much pain. so if you are all by yourself SCREAM out loud - it's ok - even with hubby home. you are right in looking for a new dr. and OS good for you... is there no girlfriends that can come and give you a hand? a relative? even if you don't like to ask ASK it's OK we all need help at this stage of our pain level.....take care and good luck <everyothername.istaken@...> wrote: thanks for all

your responses to this thread -- i had to come to the list to read because for some reason i'm not receiving msgs. at my server.well i have had 1 cortisone shot directly into my hip joint which only lasted about 2 months tops, after that, the doctor didn't give me anymore, said it wasn't worth it.i've tried every kind of antiinflamatory there is and i cannot tolerate any of them due to my stomach.so for pain i take tylenol3. my primary doctor left his practice in september and the doctor i'm now going to decreased my dose. i was taking 1 to 2 tablets every 4 to 6 hours as needed. the new doc won't let me take more than 3 tablets a day and told me not to take them unless i absolutely need them. HELLO! i'm in pain every second of every day. i hate this new doctor because she also took me off (cold turkey) my ativan so now, in addition to more pain, i'm also having panic attacks and i'm having bad withdrawal.

there should be a law against someone doing this to a person. i mean, if my x-ray shows i have no cartiledge and need a hip replacement well then DUH, i must be in pain. i'd like to see her get through the pain we're all in here on this list w/o a pain med. so, i called the orthopaedic surgeon to ask if there's anything he can do for me for my pain until i have surgery and he said no, he only treats AFTER SURGERY pain. well that tells me a lot about him, like that he doesn't give a hoot about my well being, only his pocket. so i spent all day trying to find a new primary care and a new OS and i did and i have appts for next week. i just pray they're more understanding. i understand that a couple months before surgery one should cut back, but if i cut back, i won't be taking anything and as it is now, living alone while hubby is on the ship, i can't do ANYthing. hell, my dishes went for 2 weeks before i could stand to

do them. going to the grocery store and to get my meds is like torture, i can't hardly do it and i cry all the way home, on the drive, because i'm hurting so bad. i've been so depressed lately, wondering if i'll ever find a doctor who really cares about me, and not his pocket -- the doctor who left his practice was one such doctor, and he's the only doctor in my 58 years who has ever listened to me. now i'm back at square one. sorry for all the whining, but i hurt and i'm irritible and i want to scream as loud as i can.lindy lou>> I had a TKR on Nov. 15 '06. I was in severe pain all that summer,> couldn't stand up straight; after an MRI I learned that I had 3> herniated lumbar disks. For 3 months I saw different doctors &

had> various meds: Medrol (steroid), ultram, other opiate/analgesic tabs,> a patch, cortisone injections in my spine...also PT with traction. > Gradually I got able to stand & walk & got off the pain meds by late> August.> Then I found out my knee wouldn't bear my weight any more. I was> taking 200 mg. Celebrex once a day, which worked for a while, but I> got really tired of having to lean on something all the time. Hence> the TKR, & more pain meds for 6 weeks.> I was doing fine for 6 months, but my hip (same side) was getting> worse as I was walking more. Just can't win! I'm still taking the> Celebrex, which helps for a few hours, then I take 1-2 Aleve in the> afternoon if I'm hurting a lot. I'm waiting for a date for THR now.> > Barb>

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Hi Lindy Lou

I don't understand why you're 'not allowed' something stronger for your pain and why you're supposed to cut back before surgery. My THR is in 2 weeks time and my usual doctor has had me on slow-release morphine for 2 months now. I wouldn't be able to get up otherwise! I gradually got onto morphine by going up the pain tree, with codeine, then tramadol etc. (They worked for a couple of months each, then were insufficient.) My OS knows I'm on morphine, my rheumatologist actually first prescribed the morphine and they are all happy for me to be on it until my surgery takes care of the problem long-term.

It makes sense that I might need more morphine (than those not on it pre-operatively) immediately after the surgery, but so what? It is well known that there is no upper limit to how much can be taken, it depends entirely on what you need for the pain. We are not so different to cancer patients in terms of pain and they receive increasing dosages, according to need, with no ill effects. (Do a google search and you will bring up heaps of medical articles.)

It seems you are being treated by people not up-to-date with the use of narcotics for non-cancer, severe chronic pain. I wish I could help you!

Keep fighting for what you need, perhaps you will find a more 'enlightened' doctor who can help.

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Dear Lindy, I was given a very good suggestion at this site that I plan to follow through on as soon as I have time: go to a pain management specialist. I wish I could find the message, written by one of our wise male members. It was excellent. The gist was specialists are trained to deal with pain, have the big picture, understand and not fear medications and are knowlegable about other pain-treatment methods. This woman didn't even wean you off the Ativan? That's cruel. I'd also see a pyschiatrist who can help you deal with the anxiety as well is not be afraid to prescribe the necessary meds. Trust me -- they are out there. I so empathize with you. I love alone. Last week, I got sick on top of the knee pain. I cried all the way to the doctor office and then the pharmacy for an antibiotic and then home. I had problems eating and was too sick to shop

anyway. Thank goodness a friend brought over a care package that included delicious homemade vegetable soup. That got me started eating, and the gesture meant everything to me. But no one knows unless you are experiencing it the toll that pain can take on your mental well being. Being alone -- even part time in your case -- makes it oh so worse. I can't wait for you to get your your new doctors. Warmest regards, Donna <momaca2002@...> wrote: Hi Lindy Lou I'm so sorry you are in so much pain. so if you are all by yourself SCREAM out loud - it's ok - even with hubby home. you are right in looking for a new dr. and OS good for you... is there no girlfriends that can come and give you a hand? a relative? even if you don't like to ask ASK it's OK we all need help at this stage of our pain level.....take care and good luck <everyothername.istakencenturytel (DOT) net> wrote: thanks for all your responses to this thread -- i had to come to the list to read because for some reason i'm not receiving msgs. at my server.well i have had 1 cortisone shot directly into my hip joint which only lasted about 2

months tops, after that, the doctor didn't give me anymore, said it wasn't worth it.i've tried every kind of antiinflamatory there is and i cannot tolerate any of them due to my stomach.so for pain i take tylenol3. my primary doctor left his practice in september and the doctor i'm now going to decreased my dose. i was taking 1 to 2 tablets every 4 to 6 hours as needed. the new doc won't let me take more than 3 tablets a day and told me not to take them unless i absolutely need them. HELLO! i'm in pain every second of every day. i hate this new doctor because she also took me off (cold turkey) my ativan so now, in addition to more pain, i'm also having panic attacks and i'm having bad withdrawal. there should be a law against someone doing this to a person. i mean, if my x-ray shows i have no cartiledge and need a hip replacement well then DUH, i must be in pain. i'd like to see her get through the pain we're all

in here on this list w/o a pain med. so, i called the orthopaedic surgeon to ask if there's anything he can do for me for my pain until i have surgery and he said no, he only treats AFTER SURGERY pain. well that tells me a lot about him, like that he doesn't give a hoot about my well being, only his pocket. so i spent all day trying to find a new primary care and a new OS and i did and i have appts for next week. i just pray they're more understanding. i understand that a couple months before surgery one should cut back, but if i cut back, i won't be taking anything and as it is now, living alone while hubby is on the ship, i can't do ANYthing. hell, my dishes went for 2 weeks before i could stand to do them. going to the grocery store and to get my meds is like torture, i can't hardly do it and i cry all the way home, on the drive, because i'm hurting so bad. i've been so depressed lately, wondering if i'll ever find a

doctor who really cares about me, and not his pocket -- the doctor who left his practice was one such doctor, and he's the only doctor in my 58 years who has ever listened to me. now i'm back at square one. sorry for all the whining, but i hurt and i'm irritible and i want to scream as loud as i can.lindy lou>> I had a TKR on Nov. 15 '06. I was in severe pain all that summer,> couldn't stand up straight; after an MRI I learned that I had 3> herniated lumbar disks. For 3 months I saw different doctors & had> various meds: Medrol (steroid), ultram, other opiate/analgesic tabs,> a patch, cortisone injections in my spine...also PT with traction. > Gradually I got able to stand & walk & got off the pain meds by

late> August.> Then I found out my knee wouldn't bear my weight any more. I was> taking 200 mg. Celebrex once a day, which worked for a while, but I> got really tired of having to lean on something all the time. Hence> the TKR, & more pain meds for 6 weeks.> I was doing fine for 6 months, but my hip (same side) was getting> worse as I was walking more. Just can't win! I'm still taking the> Celebrex, which helps for a few hours, then I take 1-2 Aleve in the> afternoon if I'm hurting a lot. I'm waiting for a date for THR now.> > Barb> Now you can have a huge leap forward in email: get the new .

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LOL...I meant to say "I LIVE alone," not " I love alone." That certainly changes the meaning of the sentence! :-)Donna Hart <ohdonna_68@...> wrote: Dear Lindy, I was given a very good suggestion at this site that I plan to follow through on as soon as I have time: go to a pain management specialist. I wish I could find the message, written by one of our wise male members. It was excellent. The gist was specialists are trained to deal with pain, have the big picture, understand

and not fear medications and are knowlegable about other pain-treatment methods. This woman didn't even wean you off the Ativan? That's cruel. I'd also see a pyschiatrist who can help you deal with the anxiety as well is not be afraid to prescribe the necessary meds. Trust me -- they are out there. I so empathize with you. I love alone. Last week, I got sick on top of the knee pain. I cried all the way to the doctor office and then the pharmacy for an antibiotic and then home. I had problems eating and was too sick to shop anyway. Thank goodness a friend brought over a care package that included delicious homemade vegetable soup. That got me started eating, and the gesture meant everything to me. But no one knows unless you are experiencing it the toll that pain can take on your mental well being. Being alone -- even part time in your case -- makes it oh so worse. I can't wait for you

to get your your new doctors. Warmest regards, Donna <momaca2002 (DOT) ca> wrote: Hi Lindy Lou I'm so sorry you are in so much pain. so if you are all by yourself SCREAM out loud - it's ok - even with hubby home. you are right in looking for a new dr. and OS good for you... is there no girlfriends that can come and give you a hand? a relative? even if you don't like to ask ASK it's OK we all need help at this stage of our pain level.....take care and good luck <everyothername.istakencenturytel (DOT) net> wrote:

thanks for all your responses to this thread -- i had to come to the list to read because for some reason i'm not receiving msgs. at my server.well i have had 1 cortisone shot directly into my hip joint which only lasted about 2 months tops, after that, the doctor didn't give me anymore, said it wasn't worth it.i've tried every kind of antiinflamatory there is and i cannot tolerate any of them due to my stomach.so for pain i take tylenol3. my primary doctor left his practice in september and the doctor i'm now going to decreased my dose. i was taking 1 to 2 tablets every 4 to 6 hours as needed. the new doc won't let me take more than 3 tablets a day and told me not to take them unless i absolutely need them. HELLO! i'm in pain every second of every day. i hate this new doctor because she also took me off (cold turkey) my ativan so now, in addition to more pain, i'm also having panic

attacks and i'm having bad withdrawal. there should be a law against someone doing this to a person. i mean, if my x-ray shows i have no cartiledge and need a hip replacement well then DUH, i must be in pain. i'd like to see her get through the pain we're all in here on this list w/o a pain med. so, i called the orthopaedic surgeon to ask if there's anything he can do for me for my pain until i have surgery and he said no, he only treats AFTER SURGERY pain. well that tells me a lot about him, like that he doesn't give a hoot about my well being, only his pocket. so i spent all day trying to find a new primary care and a new OS and i did and i have appts for next week. i just pray they're more understanding. i understand that a couple months before surgery one should cut back, but if i cut back, i won't be taking anything and as it is now, living alone while hubby is on the ship, i can't do ANYthing. hell, my dishes

went for 2 weeks before i could stand to do them. going to the grocery store and to get my meds is like torture, i can't hardly do it and i cry all the way home, on the drive, because i'm hurting so bad. i've been so depressed lately, wondering if i'll ever find a doctor who really cares about me, and not his pocket -- the doctor who left his practice was one such doctor, and he's the only doctor in my 58 years who has ever listened to me. now i'm back at square one. sorry for all the whining, but i hurt and i'm irritible and i want to scream as loud as i can.lindy lou>> I had a TKR on Nov. 15 '06. I was in severe pain all that summer,> couldn't stand up straight; after an MRI I learned that I had 3> herniated lumbar disks. For 3

months I saw different doctors & had> various meds: Medrol (steroid), ultram, other opiate/analgesic tabs,> a patch, cortisone injections in my spine...also PT with traction. > Gradually I got able to stand & walk & got off the pain meds by late> August.> Then I found out my knee wouldn't bear my weight any more. I was> taking 200 mg. Celebrex once a day, which worked for a while, but I> got really tired of having to lean on something all the time. Hence> the TKR, & more pain meds for 6 weeks.> I was doing fine for 6 months, but my hip (same side) was getting> worse as I was walking more. Just can't win! I'm still taking the> Celebrex, which helps for a few hours, then I take 1-2 Aleve in the> afternoon if I'm hurting a lot. I'm waiting for a date for THR now.> > Barb> Now you can have a huge leap forward in email: get the new . Everyone is raving about the all-new beta.

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