RE: compact fluorescents, metal in teeth, shielding electric panel

[Guest guest]

> 1. Does anyone react to compact fluorescent light bulbs and, if

> so, have they come up with a solution besides avoidance?

I think a better question would be, does anyone here NOT react

to compact fluorescent bulbs? That is, I think it's pretty

common for someone with ES to react to compact fluorescent bulbs.

Switching to incandescents is the easy/cheap solution. If you

can't do that, then I suppose you're left with finding an EMF

protection device which will help you, or start doing things

to improve your overall health / detox.

Marc

[Guest guest]

Marc is (as usual) spot on - both normal fluorescents and energy saving

compact bulbs seem to be a problem for virtually all ES people. At home one

can simply switch to incandescents (as long as they do not get phased out,

which is unfortunately a distinct possibility in Europe). The problem

arises when out in shops, public transport etc. Shops with low roofs and

low hanging fluorescent lights are a particular problem (not surprising from

physics - intensity obeys the inverse square law).

Improving underlying health certainly seems to help with ES, but for Sue it

does seem that reaction to fluorescents has not improved as much as other

things. Fortunately she has made friends with some of the small shopkeepers

and they switch fluorescents off if she comes in. Large supermarkets are

much less of a problem because they have high ceilings.Trains and buses with

overhead strip lighting are still pretty much a no-no.

Ian

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From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Marc

Sent: 18 August 2007 08:01

Subject: Re: compact fluorescents, metal in teeth, shielding

electric panel

> 1. Does anyone react to compact fluorescent light bulbs and, if

> so, have they come up with a solution besides avoidance?

I think a better question would be, does anyone here NOT react

to compact fluorescent bulbs? That is, I think it's pretty

common for someone with ES to react to compact fluorescent bulbs.

Switching to incandescents is the easy/cheap solution. If you

can't do that, then I suppose you're left with finding an EMF

protection device which will help you, or start doing things

to improve your overall health / detox.

Marc

[Guest guest]

I am trying to come up with a solution as my industrial design thesis

but having trouble getting validation from my thesis instructors.

ANyone else out there who gets headaches and such from them? Let me

know. I have a good idea to retrofit them but need more info on the

problem from others who suffer from them.

>

> > 1. Does anyone react to compact fluorescent light bulbs and, if

> > so, have they come up with a solution besides avoidance?

>

> I think a better question would be, does anyone here NOT react

> to compact fluorescent bulbs? That is, I think it's pretty

> common for someone with ES to react to compact fluorescent bulbs.

>

> Switching to incandescents is the easy/cheap solution. If you

> can't do that, then I suppose you're left with finding an EMF

> protection device which will help you, or start doing things

> to improve your overall health / detox.

>

> Marc

>

[Guest guest]

wrote that she is considering redesigning CFL bulbs. I suggest

you contact Dave Stetzxer about this, to discuss how to deal with the 2

factors. One is the frequencies the CFL puts on the circuit. The other is

the

frequencies being broadcast directly from the bulb.

If someone manufactures a CFL bulb that deals with both these problems,

they will be the first and ES people will surely purchase it.

Meanwhile, Dr. Havas has completed her study of the frequencies cresated

by various brands, and that should be available soon. Some are much worse

than others. There are a couple that are OK if you filter the circuit and

do not spend time near the bulb itself.

Shivani

www.LifeEnergies.com

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/22/2008 12:35:22 AM GMT Standard Time, SArjuna@...

writes:

Meanwhile, Dr. Havas has completed her study of the frequencies cresated

by various brands, and that should be available soon. Some are much worse

than others. There are a couple that are OK if you filter the circuit and

do not spend time near the bulb itself.

I have said this before with little response - I purchased a Digital

freeview set-top box which made me react so badly I was tempted to stamp on it !

using my AM radio revealed a low pitch constant tone being emitted from the box,

this broadcast the same sound throughout the wiring circuit it was plugged

into and anything that the ariel cable was in continuity with. This high

lights very effectively the phenomenon of dirty electricity, if only I could

discover what band of frequencis this bow was emitting, it gives off a similar

sound to the inverter circuit on my laptop, which also effects me badly ??

paul uk

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/22/2008 10:19:04 AM GMT Standard Time,

charles@... writes:

Hello ,

that is not new.

Those are the feared VLF signals, from 5 kHz -150 kHz, emitted from such

boxes.

I found them also on satellite receivers and som plasma and LCD TV's.

Especially the Philips 32PFL5522 is awfull.

Greetings,

Claessens

Thanks - they certainly do it for me !

[Guest guest]

Hello ,

that is not new.

Those are the feared VLF signals, from 5 kHz -150 kHz, emitted from such

boxes.

I found them also on satellite receivers and som plasma and LCD TV's.

Especially the Philips 32PFL5522 is awfull.

Greetings,

Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

www.milieuziektes.nl

www.milieuziektes.be

www.hetbitje.nl

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Re: Re: compact fluorescents, metal in teeth, shielding

electric panel

>

> In a message dated 2/22/2008 12:35:22 AM GMT Standard Time,

> SArjuna@...

> writes:

>

> Meanwhile, Dr. Havas has completed her study of the frequencies cresated

> by various brands, and that should be available soon. Some are much worse

> than others. There are a couple that are OK if you filter the circuit and

> do not spend time near the bulb itself.

>

>

>

>

> I have said this before with little response - I purchased a Digital

> freeview set-top box which made me react so badly I was tempted to stamp

> on it !

> using my AM radio revealed a low pitch constant tone being emitted from

> the box,

> this broadcast the same sound throughout the wiring circuit it was

> plugged

> into and anything that the ariel cable was in continuity with. This high

> lights very effectively the phenomenon of dirty electricity, if only I

> could

> discover what band of frequencis this bow was emitting, it gives off a

> similar

> sound to the inverter circuit on my laptop, which also effects me badly ??

>

> paul uk

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

What about The Way Healthier CFL that mercola.com sells?

>

> wrote that she is considering redesigning CFL bulbs. I

> suggest

> you contact Dave Stetzxer about this, to discuss how to deal with the 2

factors. One is the frequencies the CFL puts on the circuit. The

other is the

> frequencies being broadcast directly from the bulb.

>

> If someone manufactures a CFL bulb that deals with both these

> problems,

> they will be the first and ES people will surely purchase it.

>

> Meanwhile, Dr. Havas has completed her study of the frequencies

> cresated

> by various brands, and that should be available soon. Some are much

worse

> than others. There are a couple that are OK if you filter the circuit

and

> do not spend time near the bulb itself.

>

> Shivani

> www.LifeEnergies.com

>

>

> **************

> Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch

> video on AOL Living.

>

>

(http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/\

2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hello,

the german company www.danell.de is selling special shielded stuff.

Especially they have these *socks* for CFL bulbs,

*Schirmstrumpf fuer Energiesparleuchtmittel* as they call it.

Art nr 41-8127 -8140 and -8162

Greetings,

Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

www.milieuziektes.nl

www.milieuziektes.be

www.hetbitje.nl

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Re: compact fluorescents, metal in teeth, shielding

electric panel

>

> wrote that she is considering redesigning CFL bulbs. I

> suggest

> you contact Dave Stetzxer about this, to discuss how to deal with the 2

> factors. One is the frequencies the CFL puts on the circuit. The

> other is the

> frequencies being broadcast directly from the bulb.

>

> If someone manufactures a CFL bulb that deals with both these

> problems,

> they will be the first and ES people will surely purchase it.

>

> Meanwhile, Dr. Havas has completed her study of the frequencies

> cresated

> by various brands, and that should be available soon. Some are much

> worse

> than others. There are a couple that are OK if you filter the circuit

> and

> do not spend time near the bulb itself.

>

> Shivani

> www.LifeEnergies.com

>

>

> **************

> Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch

> video on AOL Living.

>

>

(http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/\

2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)

>

>

>