Re: Home Biologists Report/Need Help & Direction

[Guest guest]

> What will that do to the radiation. I mean it is powerful stuff!!! Loni

When you say it is " powerful stuff " , does anyone else in your family

notice it? If it is only you that is bothered by it, then it's

probably not that powerful.

Marc

[Guest guest]

They have healthy immune systems Marc but long term there could be problems.

Plus my dog is little. The test was that the radiation was 1000 times what a

body can handle. A normal body.

 

These anntenna's are right out side my back window. It makes me a frazzled mess

to be in the house.

 

I do fear for my family. Loni

From: Marc <marc@...>

Subject: Re: Home Biologists Report/Need Help & Direction

Date: Friday, June 27, 2008, 12:00 PM

> What will that do to the radiation. I mean it is powerful stuff!!! Loni

When you say it is " powerful stuff " , does anyone else in your family

notice it? If it is only you that is bothered by it, then it's

probably not that powerful.

Marc

[Guest guest]

> I do fear for my family. Loni

Yes, even if you cannot move now, you definitely

should plan on moving *sometime*.

But what may seem overwhelming to one person

may have no impact on another. I can recall

being completely overwhelmed by even a

light switch, while most people would have

zero reaction to such things.

Marc

[Guest guest]

Hi Loni,

We really feel for you. We know from Sue's experience that it is very tough

and frightening when trying to cope with ES. So you need something

practical to help you quickly.

First priority is to try to give yourself some rest from the source. You

can't move house quickly, so you need to escape from the house when you can.

Sue went out for a large part of the day, then we went to some nearby woods

by a lake and set up a tent. She slept in that on and off for some weeks

which gave her some respite - good sleep is a great help. I hear what you

said about the park - doesn't sound a great place. Is there any other quiet

place reasonably near? Trees and water are great - both absorb waves.

Obviously you need to work something out with your family for the times you

must be there.

With shielding I would again say - dealing with the walls and windows which

actually face the masts should cut down your exposure by 90% plus, the other

directions don't matter so much. Go for something simple and quick at the

moment and see if it helps. Not sure what you mean by " tint " on the

windows, we found the metallized gauze was just as good and kept the room

light. Try hanging your bed canopy over one window during the day, that

should at least help that room and give you one " safe space " . The roof may

be OK but it depends on the angle the waves are coming in from - how high

the mast is and how far away it is. Unless the mast is very high and close

so that the waves come down through the roof, it should be OK. Remember

that the main beam of the microwaves, which gives the highest effect,

travels in straight lines.

Lastly, are you keeping your computer use to an absolute minimum? It can be

a big contributor to your exposure, especially the screen. I assume you

don't have cordless phones in the house or use mobile phones - both no-no's.

Presumably your building survey guy pointed out anything else inside the

house which might make the problems worse.

Once you can get some short term relief, you'll be able to think about

medium and longer term solutions with less worry.

Best wishes, Ian and Sue

_____

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Loni

Rosser

Sent: 27 June 2008 04:05

Subject: RE: Home Biologists Report/Need Help & Direction

I can't seal my whole house. I was going to do the windows with tint first &

then maybe the back wall of the house with that screening material. But the

roof would be open & front of the house. I just can't afford to do it all.

I am in so much pain here I can't stand it. I want to run but I don't have

anywhere to go.

I have kids. OMG, what do I do? Loni

>

> In a message dated 6/26/2008 5:14:18 P.M. GMT Daylight Time,

> loni326 (DOT) <mailto:loni326% 40> com writes:

>

> Does anyone know about the roof? I have a concrete tile roof. The

> tiles are

> about an inch thick. Will the radiation get through them?

>

> I am getting a bid on these square screens to put up on the outside

> wall of

> the house where it is coming in the worse. Loni

>

>

>

> Depending on frequencies involved and other factors allowing for a

> certain

> amount of absorption microwave radiation will penetrate the tiles

> after all

> they have gaps where the grout is they will also have many interstices

> where

> the waves will find their way through.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Loni,

One more thought. It's tough on you and it's tough on your husband (and

family). It's really hard for you both to understand and a big strain -

we've been there. Hang on in there. It'll be hard for you both to

understand what's happening and how to cope with it - it's so far outside

most people's everyday experience. Your family almost certainly can't feel

any of the effects and will be struggling to understand. We'll be praying

for you as you work it through together.

Best wishes, Ian and Sue

_____

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Ian

Kemp

Sent: 28 June 2008 00:28

Subject: RE: Home Biologists Report/Need Help & Direction

Hi Loni,

We really feel for you. We know from Sue's experience that it is very tough

and frightening when trying to cope with ES. So you need something

practical to help you quickly.

First priority is to try to give yourself some rest from the source. You

can't move house quickly, so you need to escape from the house when you can.

Sue went out for a large part of the day, then we went to some nearby woods

by a lake and set up a tent. She slept in that on and off for some weeks

which gave her some respite - good sleep is a great help. I hear what you

said about the park - doesn't sound a great place. Is there any other quiet

place reasonably near? Trees and water are great - both absorb waves.

Obviously you need to work something out with your family for the times you

must be there.

With shielding I would again say - dealing with the walls and windows which

actually face the masts should cut down your exposure by 90% plus, the other

directions don't matter so much. Go for something simple and quick at the

moment and see if it helps. Not sure what you mean by " tint " on the

windows, we found the metallized gauze was just as good and kept the room

light. Try hanging your bed canopy over one window during the day, that

should at least help that room and give you one " safe space " . The roof may

be OK but it depends on the angle the waves are coming in from - how high

the mast is and how far away it is. Unless the mast is very high and close

so that the waves come down through the roof, it should be OK. Remember

that the main beam of the microwaves, which gives the highest effect,

travels in straight lines.

Lastly, are you keeping your computer use to an absolute minimum? It can be

a big contributor to your exposure, especially the screen. I assume you

don't have cordless phones in the house or use mobile phones - both no-no's.

Presumably your building survey guy pointed out anything else inside the

house which might make the problems worse.

Once you can get some short term relief, you'll be able to think about

medium and longer term solutions with less worry.

Best wishes, Ian and Sue

_____

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[mailto:groups (DOT) <mailto:%40> com] On Behalf

Of Loni

Rosser

Sent: 27 June 2008 04:05

groups (DOT) <mailto:%40> com

Subject: RE: Home Biologists Report/Need Help & Direction

I can't seal my whole house. I was going to do the windows with tint first &

then maybe the back wall of the house with that screening material. But the

roof would be open & front of the house. I just can't afford to do it all.

I am in so much pain here I can't stand it. I want to run but I don't have

anywhere to go.

I have kids. OMG, what do I do? Loni

>

> In a message dated 6/26/2008 5:14:18 P.M. GMT Daylight Time,

> loni326 (DOT) <mailto:loni326% 40> com writes:

>

> Does anyone know about the roof? I have a concrete tile roof. The

> tiles are

> about an inch thick. Will the radiation get through them?

>

> I am getting a bid on these square screens to put up on the outside

> wall of

> the house where it is coming in the worse. Loni

>

>

>

> Depending on frequencies involved and other factors allowing for a

> certain

> amount of absorption microwave radiation will penetrate the tiles

> after all

> they have gaps where the grout is they will also have many interstices

> where

> the waves will find their way through.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much for your prayers & these kind words. I am homeless & may be

for some time. Loni

>

> In a message dated 6/26/2008 5:14:18 P.M. GMT Daylight Time,

> loni326 (DOT) <mailto:loni326% 40> com writes:

>

> Does anyone know about the roof? I have a concrete tile roof. The

> tiles are

> about an inch thick. Will the radiation get through them?

>

> I am getting a bid on these square screens to put up on the outside

> wall of

> the house where it is coming in the worse. Loni

>

>

>

> Depending on frequencies involved and other factors allowing for a

> certain

> amount of absorption microwave radiation will penetrate the tiles

> after all

> they have gaps where the grout is they will also have many interstices

> where

> the waves will find their way through.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'm lifting you in prayer, I know how you feel although I'd

never let myself be driven to sleeping in a car park or a

park, I'd rather die. But a bit of motherly advice is do be

careful who you place your trust in. I'm sure your mother

would tell you the same.

Also, when you're on your computer sit as far away from

the monitor as possible. I've measured it with the Trifield

meter and the further away the better. At just over 2'6 "

it is reasonably good. But don't sit on top of it.

Maureen

RE: Home Biologists Report/Need Help & Direction

Thank you so much for your prayers & these kind words. I am homeless & may be

for some time. Loni

>

> In a message dated 6/26/2008 5:14:18 P.M. GMT Daylight Time,

> loni326 (DOT) <mailto:loni326% 40> com writes:

>

> Does anyone know about the roof? I have a concrete tile roof. The

> tiles are

> about an inch thick. Will the radiation get through them?

>

> I am getting a bid on these square screens to put up on the outside

> wall of

> the house where it is coming in the worse. Loni

>

>

>

> Depending on frequencies involved and other factors allowing for a

> certain

> amount of absorption microwave radiation will penetrate the tiles

> after all

> they have gaps where the grout is they will also have many interstices

> where

> the waves will find their way through.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, it is scary because it is a long rode ahead & I am weak. I do think I'd

rather die but then I have kids so I'm hanging on for now. Loni

>

> In a message dated 6/26/2008 5:14:18 P.M. GMT Daylight Time,

> loni326 (DOT) <mailto:loni326% 40> com writes:

>

> Does anyone know about the roof? I have a concrete tile roof. The

> tiles are

> about an inch thick. Will the radiation get through them?

>

> I am getting a bid on these square screens to put up on the outside

> wall of

> the house where it is coming in the worse. Loni

>

>

>

> Depending on frequencies involved and other factors allowing for a

> certain

> amount of absorption microwave radiation will penetrate the tiles

> after all

> they have gaps where the grout is they will also have many interstices

> where

> the waves will find their way through.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, Ian,

Thanks so much for your interesting and informative email! I have known alot of

this intuitively, but it is great to know I was on the right track. I am

technically not yet in the house, btw, it was a major fixer-upper. But I decided

that in my case this might be a plus. The idea about grounding thru radiator

pipes is a great idea! Too bad this house doesn't have rads or I would be saving

some money! lol I have been camping out on an aerobed there while doing the work

I can do, if the air quality is ok. The house has electric fans in every room

which drive me crazy, but luckily, they are optional. So far it is working.

My best,

Diane

From: Marc <marcufoseries (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: Home Biologists Report/Need Help & Direction

groups (DOT) com

Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 2:39 PM

> I thought it was emf but the reading was low. He tested the microwave

> radiation & it was sky high. I never knew. I have about 4 or 5 cell

> anntennas right out my back window at the high school my kids attend. It

> is what has been killing me in this house.

Are these cell towers all on the same side of the house? Perhaps you only

need to shield that one side of the house?

I take it that the Quantum Home did not help with this?

Marc

[Guest guest]

Hi, Loni,

Probably arborvitae will not work in Arizona. They are tall evergreen trees that

grow 3 to 5 feet a year and are narrow. Their real name is " Thuja " . They come in

sizes from 18inches diam X 12 foot tall to to at least 10 feet diam X 50 feet

hi.

 

You may know a similar plant called " Leylandii Cypress " . I am not sure that one

grows in Arizona, but it is grown alot in the west. What you want is a lush,

fast growing plant that is evergreen, so it screens all year. The thicker the

plant, the better the screening. A huge pine 15 or 20 ft around will work better

than a thin one if you have the room (and pines, etc, grow in your area!) There

are a number of very large pines and needled trees that grow 3 to 5 ft a year.

Leylandii Cypress is in that category of growth but Leylandii is only 5 or 6

feet wide. That is all the room I had next to my house, which is why I chose a

thin arborvitae. But you can also grow more than one row of these, which might

be better than having just one row of larger trees, if you have the room. Ian

mentioned that and area with water and lots of trees is usually good for people

with ES. I find personally that evergreen trees are great shielding. I was

hoping to find a house

in an evergreen forest, but, alas, could not find one. Might have to grow my

own!

Diane

From: Marc <marcufoseries (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: Home Biologists Report/Need Help & Direction

groups (DOT) com

Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 2:39 PM

> I thought it was emf but the reading was low. He tested the microwave

> radiation & it was sky high. I never knew. I have about 4 or 5 cell

> anntennas right out my back window at the high school my kids attend. It

> is what has been killing me in this house.

Are these cell towers all on the same side of the house? Perhaps you only

need to shield that one side of the house?

I take it that the Quantum Home did not help with this?

Marc

[Guest guest]

Thanks Diane

From: Marc <marcufoseries (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: Home Biologists Report/Need Help & Direction

groups (DOT) com

Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 2:39 PM

> I thought it was emf but the reading was low. He tested the microwave

> radiation & it was sky high. I never knew. I have about 4 or 5 cell

> anntennas right out my back window at the high school my kids attend. It

> is what has been killing me in this house.

Are these cell towers all on the same side of the house? Perhaps you only

need to shield that one side of the house?

I take it that the Quantum Home did not help with this?

Marc

[Guest guest]

Dear Loni,

if you ask a question and get an answer from someone, who has years of

successful experience and still refuse the answer, why did you ask in the first

place. Probably you expect an answer along the lines your knowledge is today.

This way you never will learn something really new.

If you really want to understand, what is happening, read the article about

electrosmog on a homepage of a friend of mine ( _www.golden-ray.com_

(http://www.golden-ray.com) ), where I have explained the whole thing about

the true

nature of electrosmog on a few pages. Small portions of this knowledge I have

shared to this group every now and then, but no one seems to notice it.

dietrich

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loni326@...:

What will that do to the radiation. I mean it is powerful stuff!!! Loni

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Subject: Re: Home Biologists Report/Need Help & Direction

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Date: Friday, June 27, 2008, 11:24 AM

Hi,

this light post is probably made of steel or aluminum. A electrosmog

neutralizing device attached to this metallic construction will do it. The

problem

is, people will see it, laugh at it and remove it. If you are seriosly

interestet, contact me personally. There is a solution to this problem, that is

invisible. I have been using this since 2003 on many base stations with success

as well as many of my friends.

dietrich gruen

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