Guest guest Posted July 18, 2007 Report Share Posted July 18, 2007 Hi Beyonce! I think there is a BEST process and a BEST VCO at a given time, for example now. But it is difficult to determine, maybe pointless doing so. Whatever is the BEST, the customer is always the judge. Some customers have developed the liking for a sour-tasting VCO. Others love the smell of the heating by-products in VCO. And others would have their stomach " reversed " by these same taste and smell. Some suggestions on how to select a VCO for the family: 1. Look for Lauric Acid content in the label. The range of lauric acid that you might see, depending on the brands that have reached your stores, is usually between 45% to 54%. Obviously a VCO with 54% lauric acid content have higher efficacy than that with 45% only. Be cautious with those having lauric acid of 60% or thereabout - it is highly probable that it is altered VCO, so ask for more info from the supplier. 2. Check for presence of impurities in the label. Coconut oils - like all products - have impurities. Impurities give additional stress to internal body organs. Impurity levels should be well below the safe limits defined from best available information. If the info is not provided in the label, get it from the supplier or find out how its control is assured. 3. Taste-test it first. Buy a small quantity for trial. A detectable sour and rancid taste is an indicator of poor control of fermentation process. A detectable smell of caramelized protein is an indicator of poor control of heating process. 4. Avoid using a flavored VCO. Its quality is already masked by the flavoring, you wont completely know what it is. Also, the flavorings become additional workload to the internal organs, particularly the liver and the kidney. I dont have info about US sources for fresh coconuts. I hope the above helps. Tony beyoncesolange <deltronik@...> wrote: Tony, Thanks for all of the info. Oil war? Who? Not here. I just want to know as much as possible so that I can purchase the oil that is best for me and my family. It looks like each process has possibly it's own pros and cons. I guess every company will say that the process they use is the best. Is there REALLY a BEST? It would be great to get whole coconut. Is there a source here in the U.S. for fresh whole coconut? I saw some at the asian market, but I'm just not sure where it comes from. thanks, beyonce > and it would be a cheapw ar compared to iraq LOL. > Shalom > [lists] Re: Spectrum virgin unrefined coconut oil > > " certainly don't want to start an oil war here " > > it wouldn't be the first one... > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.4/897 - Release Date: 7/11/2007 9:57 PM > > --- > avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. > Virus Database (VPS): 000756-0, 07/12/2007 > Tested on: 7/12/2007 2:00:48 PM > avast! - copyright © 2000-2007 ALWIL Software. > http://www.avast.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2007 Report Share Posted July 18, 2007 Hi Tony, I like your posts very much, they are very informative and unbiased. Just a couple of points about your comments on the Lauric Acid content of VCO. I think it is a little unwise to assume the lauric acid figure shown on the label is actually the true figure of the oil in the jar. We have our oil tested regularly but very rarely get the same figure twice. Our figures average around the 54% you mention, but we could certainly not guarantee that every jar would be the same,......unless we got different labels printed for each batch. Also, what is to stop companies from printing a totally fictitious figure on their labels. We were at a trade show last year, where one company's label changed from showing a 46% lauric content one day, to showing 56% the next. I have no doubt at all that this is a common practice and would go some way to explaining the 60% lauric figures you mention. Another point I think worth mentioning, is that although most people look at the lauric figure, we have found quite significant differences in the amount of MCFA in coconuts from different regions. We will be moving our plant to Eastern Samar next year, so we have been having the coconuts from that region tested. Although, on average, they showed a lower lauric content, around 51%, the MCFA content was usually higher, at around 67-68%. I believe that informed opinion is, that it is the MCFA working together that give VCO its numerous benefits. I believe you mentioned you are in Quezon City, as are we. We will be at the trade fair in Megamall next month. Please drop by our booth to say hello. Regards, Steve and Mel > > and it would be a cheapw ar compared to iraq LOL. > > Shalom > > [lists] Re: Spectrum virgin > unrefined coconut oil > > > > " certainly don't want to start an oil war here " > > > > it wouldn't be the first one... > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.4/897 - Release Date: > 7/11/2007 9:57 PM > > > > --- > > avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. > > Virus Database (VPS): 000756-0, 07/12/2007 > > Tested on: 7/12/2007 2:00:48 PM > > avast! - copyright © 2000-2007 ALWIL Software. > > http://www.avast.com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2007 Report Share Posted July 18, 2007 Hi Tony and Everyone, I have a question, Not all the coconut oils I see have the percentage of Lauric acid listed on their containers. Does that have any special meaning if a product does not list the percentage on its container? I also would love to know if anyone is on a low carb diet to lose wt while taking the coconut oil. I love the oil, but gain instead of lose and wish I could change that. I do not eat that much really, but eat a lot of fruit and meat. Thanks. pat Mel <cocovida_vco@...> wrote: Hi Tony, I like your posts very much, they are very informative and unbiased. Just a couple of points about your comments on the Lauric Acid content of VCO. I think it is a little unwise to assume the lauric acid figure shown on the label is actually the true figure of the oil in the jar. We have our oil tested regularly but very rarely get the same figure twice. Our figures average around the 54% you mention, but we could certainly not guarantee that every jar would be the same,......unless we got different labels printed for each batch. Also, what is to stop companies from printing a totally fictitious figure on their labels. We were at a trade show last year, where one company's label changed from showing a 46% lauric content one day, to showing 56% the next. I have no doubt at all that this is a common practice and would go some way to explaining the 60% lauric figures you mention. Another point I think worth mentioning, is that although most people look at the lauric figure, we have found quite significant differences in the amount of MCFA in coconuts from different regions. We will be moving our plant to Eastern Samar next year, so we have been having the coconuts from that region tested. Although, on average, they showed a lower lauric content, around 51%, the MCFA content was usually higher, at around 67-68%. I believe that informed opinion is, that it is the MCFA working together that give VCO its numerous benefits. I believe you mentioned you are in Quezon City, as are we. We will be at the trade fair in Megamall next month. Please drop by our booth to say hello. Regards, Steve and Mel > > and it would be a cheapw ar compared to iraq LOL. > > Shalom > > [lists] Re: Spectrum virgin > unrefined coconut oil > > > > " certainly don't want to start an oil war here " > > > > it wouldn't be the first one... > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.4/897 - Release Date: > 7/11/2007 9:57 PM > > > > --- > > avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. > > Virus Database (VPS): 000756-0, 07/12/2007 > > Tested on: 7/12/2007 2:00:48 PM > > avast! - copyright © 2000-2007 ALWIL Software. > > http://www.avast.com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2007 Report Share Posted July 18, 2007 Steve, Thank you for your reply and explanation. This helps. Pat Imelda <cocovida_vco@...> wrote: Hi Pat, The reason our company does not show the lauric content on our labels, is that we can't be absolutely certain of the composition of each jar. As I mentioned in an earlier post, it would mean having a different label printed for each batch. Because of the limits imposed by our production process, this would prove very expensive We can say that our lauric figure averages around 54%.....but we can't be absolutely certain of each jar. I would be totally amazed if any company can guarantee the lauric content of each jar. Regards, Steve > > > and it would be a cheapw ar compared to iraq LOL. > > > Shalom > > > [lists] Re: Spectrum virgin > > unrefined coconut oil > > > > > > " certainly don't want to start an oil war here " > > > > > > it wouldn't be the first one... > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.4/897 - Release Date: > > 7/11/2007 9:57 PM > > > > > > --- > > > avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. > > > Virus Database (VPS): 000756-0, 07/12/2007 > > > Tested on: 7/12/2007 2:00:48 PM > > > avast! - copyright © 2000-2007 ALWIL Software. > > > http://www.avast.com > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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