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Hi Beyonce!

I think there is a BEST process and a BEST VCO at a given time, for example

now. But it is difficult to determine, maybe pointless doing so. Whatever is

the BEST, the customer is always the judge. Some customers have developed the

liking for a sour-tasting VCO. Others love the smell of the heating by-products

in VCO. And others would have their stomach " reversed " by these same taste and

smell.

Some suggestions on how to select a VCO for the family:

1. Look for Lauric Acid content in the label. The range of lauric acid that

you might see, depending on the brands that have reached your stores, is usually

between 45% to 54%. Obviously a VCO with 54% lauric acid content have higher

efficacy than that with 45% only. Be cautious with those having lauric acid of

60% or thereabout - it is highly probable that it is altered VCO, so ask for

more info from the supplier.

2. Check for presence of impurities in the label. Coconut oils - like all

products - have impurities. Impurities give additional stress to internal body

organs. Impurity levels should be well below the safe limits defined from best

available information. If the info is not provided in the label, get it from the

supplier or find out how its control is assured.

3. Taste-test it first. Buy a small quantity for trial. A detectable sour and

rancid taste is an indicator of poor control of fermentation process. A

detectable smell of caramelized protein is an indicator of poor control of

heating process.

4. Avoid using a flavored VCO. Its quality is already masked by the

flavoring, you wont completely know what it is. Also, the flavorings become

additional workload to the internal organs, particularly the liver and the

kidney.

I dont have info about US sources for fresh coconuts.

I hope the above helps.

Tony

beyoncesolange <deltronik@...> wrote:

Tony,

Thanks for all of the info.

Oil war? Who? Not here. I just want to know as much as possible so

that I can purchase the oil that is best for me and my family. It

looks like each process has possibly it's own pros and cons. I guess

every company will say that the process they use is the best. Is

there REALLY a BEST?

It would be great to get whole coconut. Is there a source here in the

U.S. for fresh whole coconut? I saw some at the asian market, but I'm

just not sure where it comes from.

thanks,

beyonce

> and it would be a cheapw ar compared to iraq LOL.

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Hi Tony,

I like your posts very much, they are very informative and unbiased.

Just a couple of points about your comments on the Lauric Acid

content of VCO. I think it is a little unwise to assume the lauric

acid figure shown on the label is actually the true figure of the oil

in the jar. We have our oil tested regularly but very rarely get the

same figure twice. Our figures average around the 54% you mention,

but we could certainly not guarantee that every jar would be the

same,......unless we got different labels printed for each batch.

Also, what is to stop companies from printing a totally fictitious

figure on their labels. We were at a trade show last year, where one

company's label changed from showing a 46% lauric content one day, to

showing 56% the next. I have no doubt at all that this is a common

practice and would go some way to explaining the 60% lauric figures

you mention.

Another point I think worth mentioning, is that although most people

look at the lauric figure, we have found quite significant

differences in the amount of MCFA in coconuts from different regions.

We will be moving our plant to Eastern Samar next year, so we have

been having the coconuts from that region tested. Although, on

average, they showed a lower lauric content, around 51%, the MCFA

content was usually higher, at around 67-68%. I believe that informed

opinion is, that it is the MCFA working together that give VCO its

numerous benefits.

I believe you mentioned you are in Quezon City, as are we. We will be

at the trade fair in Megamall next month. Please drop by our booth to

say hello.

Regards,

Steve and Mel

> > and it would be a cheapw ar compared to iraq LOL.

> > Shalom

> > [lists] Re: Spectrum virgin

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Hi Tony and Everyone, I have a question, Not all the coconut oils I see have the

percentage of Lauric acid listed on their containers. Does that have any special

meaning if a product does not list the percentage on its container? I also

would love to know if anyone is on a low carb diet to lose wt while taking the

coconut oil. I love the oil, but gain instead of lose and wish I could change

that. I do not eat that much really, but eat a lot of fruit and meat. Thanks.

pat

Mel <cocovida_vco@...> wrote: Hi Tony,

I like your posts very much, they are very informative and unbiased.

Just a couple of points about your comments on the Lauric Acid

content of VCO. I think it is a little unwise to assume the lauric

acid figure shown on the label is actually the true figure of the oil

in the jar. We have our oil tested regularly but very rarely get the

same figure twice. Our figures average around the 54% you mention,

but we could certainly not guarantee that every jar would be the

same,......unless we got different labels printed for each batch.

Also, what is to stop companies from printing a totally fictitious

figure on their labels. We were at a trade show last year, where one

company's label changed from showing a 46% lauric content one day, to

showing 56% the next. I have no doubt at all that this is a common

practice and would go some way to explaining the 60% lauric figures

you mention.

Another point I think worth mentioning, is that although most people

look at the lauric figure, we have found quite significant

differences in the amount of MCFA in coconuts from different regions.

We will be moving our plant to Eastern Samar next year, so we have

been having the coconuts from that region tested. Although, on

average, they showed a lower lauric content, around 51%, the MCFA

content was usually higher, at around 67-68%. I believe that informed

opinion is, that it is the MCFA working together that give VCO its

numerous benefits.

I believe you mentioned you are in Quezon City, as are we. We will be

at the trade fair in Megamall next month. Please drop by our booth to

say hello.

Regards,

Steve and Mel

> > and it would be a cheapw ar compared to iraq LOL.

> > Shalom

> > [lists] Re: Spectrum virgin

> unrefined coconut oil

> >

> > " certainly don't want to start an oil war here " :)

> >

> > it wouldn't be the first one... :)

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Steve, Thank you for your reply and explanation. This helps. Pat

Imelda <cocovida_vco@...> wrote:

Hi Pat,

The reason our company does not show the lauric content on our

labels, is that we can't be absolutely certain of the composition of

each jar. As I mentioned in an earlier post, it would mean having a

different label printed for each batch. Because of the limits imposed

by our production process, this would prove very expensive

We can say that our lauric figure averages around 54%.....but we

can't be absolutely certain of each jar.

I would be totally amazed if any company can guarantee the lauric

content of each jar.

Regards,

Steve

> > > and it would be a cheapw ar compared to iraq LOL.

> > > Shalom

> > > [lists] Re: Spectrum virgin

> > unrefined coconut oil

> > >

> > > " certainly don't want to start an oil war here " :)

> > >

> > > it wouldn't be the first one... :)

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