Guest guest Posted July 5, 2005 Report Share Posted July 5, 2005 As I understand it, cruciferous veg are only bad for the thyroid if eaten raw, and thus cooked and fermented cv are fine. Katy > > I was wondering if anyone who is familiar with Bruce Fife's books could tell me answer a question for me? One cruciferous vegetable are fermented will they still have the same negative influence on the thyroid? > > > > Becca Biderman > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2005 Report Share Posted July 5, 2005 no, they don't. Sauerkraut, for example, is wonderful for health. Nina cruciferous vegetables I was wondering if anyone who is familiar with Bruce Fife's books could tell me answer a question for me? One cruciferous vegetable are fermented will they still have the same negative influence on the thyroid? Becca Biderman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2006 Report Share Posted October 20, 2006 Sally, The cruciferous vegetables compromise thyroid activity and slow metabolism only when eaten raw and unfermented. I recommend eating green, leafy cruciferous vegetables twice per day. You can cook them in rolling boil, salted water (sea salt or other unrefined salt) for a few minutes, or saute them briefly in a vegetable stir fry (VCO, of course). The key is to keep them bright green. Steaming or slow boiling or boiling without salt will make them go gray. Pickling is fine too - e.g., good-quality, raw, unpasteurized sauerkraut. These are traditional foods and they will not compromise thyroid activity. Broccoli family vegetables are much, much better for you than spinach, which has oxalates compromising mineral absorption. Spinach also creates a more acidic condition (oxalic acid is an acid). I don't eat it. Watercress is a cruciferous vegetable (if I remember correctly) and so goes under the same rules as for the others - eat it cooked or fermented, not raw. Parsley is fine, but you won't eat nearly enough of it. You will also eat much more of these vegetables if they are cooked and softened. Nina >Hi. Nina, I was told not to eat cabbage, cauliflower, kale, brussels sprouts etc because they affect thyroid activity. I have just read this long list of foods to avoid again and it does say in some instances 'when eaten in appreciable quantities.' However, i'm food sensitive to brussel sprouts. Also Broccoli as it can contribute to a further reduction in metabolic rate. This was advice from lab that did hair mineral test. I would think it would only be a problem if i ate these things in excess. They also said to avoid fat such as coconut oil so perhaps i should take what they say which a pinch of salt. I do eat some green veg but probably not enough, I have started to buy the packets of spinach, rocket, and watercress salad and add it to sandwiches, and sometimes buy pots of fresh parsley and put in soups, stews etc. Is this enough? Sally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2006 Report Share Posted October 20, 2006 > > Sally, > The cruciferous vegetables compromise thyroid activity and slow metabolism only when eaten raw and unfermented. I recommend eating green, leafy cruciferous vegetables twice per day. You can cook them in rolling boil, salted water (sea salt or other unrefined salt) for a few minutes, or saute them briefly in a vegetable stir fry (VCO, of course). The key is to keep them bright green. Steaming or slow boiling or boiling without salt will make them go gray. Pickling is fine too - e.g., good-quality, raw, unpasteurized sauerkraut. These are traditional foods and they will not compromise thyroid activity. > Broccoli family vegetables are much, much better for you than spinach, which has oxalates compromising mineral absorption. Spinach also creates a more acidic condition (oxalic acid is an acid). I don't eat it. Watercress is a cruciferous vegetable (if I remember correctly) and so goes under the same rules as for the others - eat it cooked or fermented, not raw. Parsley is fine, but you won't eat nearly enough of it. You will also eat much more of these vegetables if they are cooked and softened. > Nina > > >Hi. Nina, > I was told not to eat cabbage, cauliflower, kale, brussels sprouts > etc because they affect thyroid activity. I have just read this > long list of foods to avoid again and it does say in some > instances 'when eaten in appreciable quantities.' However, i'm food > sensitive to brussel sprouts. Also Broccoli as it can contribute to > a further reduction in metabolic rate. This was advice from lab that > did hair mineral test. I would think it would only be a problem if > i ate these things in excess. They also said to avoid fat such as > coconut oil so perhaps i should take what they say which a pinch of > salt. I do eat some green veg but probably not enough, I have > started to buy the packets of spinach, rocket, and watercress salad > and add it to sandwiches, and sometimes buy pots of fresh parsley > and put in soups, stews etc. Is this enough? > Sally > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 do you have to cook swiss chard or is it ok to eat rawas ( added to a smoothie)? -------------- Original message -------------- From: " sallyhffmn " <sally.hoffman@...> > > Sally, > The cruciferous vegetables compromise thyroid activity and slow metabolism only when eaten raw and unfermented. I recommend eating green, leafy cruciferous vegetables twice per day. You can cook them in rolling boil, salted water (sea salt or other unrefined salt) for a few minutes, or saute them briefly in a vegetable stir fry (VCO, of course). The key is to keep them bright green. Steaming or slow boiling or boiling without salt will make them go gray. Pickling is fine too - e.g., good-quality, raw, unpasteurized sauerkraut. These are traditional foods and they will not compromise thyroid activity. > Broccoli family vegetables are much, much better for you than spinach, which has oxalates compromising mineral absorption. Spinach also creates a more acidic condition (oxalic acid is an acid). I don't eat it. Watercress is a cruciferous vegetable (if I remember correctly) and so goes under the same rules as for the others - eat it cooked or fermented, not raw. Parsley is fine, but you won't eat nearly enough of it. You will also eat much more of these vegetables if they are cooked and softened. > Nina > > >Hi. Nina, > I was told not to eat cabbage, cauliflower, kale, brussels sprouts > etc because they affect thyroid activity. I have just read this > long list of foods to avoid again and it does say in some > instances 'when eaten in appreciable quantities.' However, i'm food > sensitive to brussel sprouts. Also Broccoli as it can contribute to > a further reduction in metabolic rate. This was advice from lab that > did hair mineral test. I would think it would only be a problem if > i ate these things in excess. They also said to avoid fat such as > coconut oil so perhaps i should take what they say which a pinch of > salt. I do eat some green veg but probably not enough, I have > started to buy the packets of spinach, rocket, and watercress salad > and add it to sandwiches, and sometimes buy pots of fresh parsley > and put in soups, stews etc. Is this enough? > Sally > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 I don't know - swiss chard is not a cruciferous vegetable, and it contains oxalic acid, just like spinach does. I don't eat it. Nina Re: Re: cruciferous vegetables do you have to cook swiss chard or is it ok to eat rawas ( added to a smoothie)? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.9/490 - Release Date: 10/20/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 I asked Dr. Brownstein about this and he said we would have to eat more than the average person would eat to have it effect us. Steph cruciferous vegetables should we not be eating them at all? only eating them cooked? my 4 year old likes both broccoli and cauliflower and we eat them both raw and cooked, though i have not had much of either raw recently.sarah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 Thank you, Steph. I recently started to write an email to the group about demonizing all the various foods as goitrogens. It seems to me that if people are getting iodine they don't need to worry about that food issue, if they are eating a variety of foods. It sounds like Dr Brownstein thinks so too. -- >I asked Dr. Brownstein about this and he said we would have to eat more >than the average person would eat to have it effect us. > >Steph > > > cruciferous vegetables > > > >should we not be eating them at all? only eating them cooked? my 4 year >old likes both broccoli and cauliflower and we eat them both raw and >cooked, though i have not had much of either raw recently. > >sarah ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 thanks for the reassurance! i didn't want to have to get rid of about half of the veggies that my daughter will readily eat. sarah > > I asked Dr. Brownstein about this and he said we would have to eat more than the average person would eat to have it effect us. > > Steph > > > cruciferous vegetables > > > > should we not be eating them at all? only eating them cooked? my 4 year old likes both broccoli and cauliflower and we eat them both raw and cooked, though i have not had much of either raw recently. > > sarah > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 usually, i steam it in a little chicken stock then take the lid off the pot, let the liquid boil off, then add in organic butter. so there's no liquid left. i wonder if the minerals evaporate into the air or are left on the broccoli/pot as the water evaporates? sarah > > > From: <sarahlyao@...> > Subject: cruciferous vegetables > iodine > Date: Monday, 22 February, 2010, 4:03 > > > Â > > > > should we not be eating them at all? only eating them cooked? my 4 year old likes both broccoli and cauliflower and we eat them both raw and cooked, though i have not had much of either raw recently. > > sarah > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 not sure about that. david From: <sarahlyao@...>Subject: Re: cruciferous vegetablesiodine Date: Tuesday, 23 February, 2010, 22:10 usually, i steam it in a little chicken stock then take the lid off the pot, let the liquid boil off, then add in organic butter. so there's no liquid left. i wonder if the minerals evaporate into the air or are left on the broccoli/pot as the water evaporates?sarah> > > From: <sarahlyao@. ..>> Subject: cruciferous vegetables> iodinegroups (DOT) com> Date: Monday, 22 February, 2010, 4:03> > > Â > > > > should we not be eating them at all? only eating them cooked? my 4 year old likes both broccoli and cauliflower and we eat them both raw and cooked, though i have not had much of either raw recently.> > sarah> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Minerals don't evaporate. Onl the water as it turns into gas as steam. The minerals would be left behind.Jag From: <sarahlyaocomcast (DOT) net>Subject: Re: cruciferous vegetablesiodinegroups (DOT) comDate: Tuesday, 23 February, 2010, 22:10 usually, i steam it in a little chicken stock then take the lid off the pot, let the liquid boil off, then add in organic butter. so there's no liquid left. i wonder if the minerals evaporate into the air or are left on the broccoli/pot as the water evaporates?sarah> > > From: <sarahlyao@. ..>> Subject: cruciferous vegetables> iodinegroups (DOT) com> Date: Monday, 22 February, 2010, 4:03> > > Â > > > > should we not be eating them at all? only eating them cooked? my 4 year old likes both broccoli and cauliflower and we eat them both raw and cooked, though i have not had much of either raw recently.> > sarah> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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