Re: Re: WE DID IT: WHAT NEXT, CREW? FDA: Antidepressants risky for young adults

[Guest guest]

I agree. I know that people can become psychotic as a result of these

drugs. Watch for my next post!

On 12/13/06, cdvlcarpenter <cdvlcarpenter@...> wrote:

>

> I think the warnings need to be extended to all ages. They also need to

> include withdrawal as well as real mania and psychosis numbers. This

> was a great thing but people still aren't safe.

>

>

> >

> > We did it, we did it, we did this one! What next folks??

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I didn't understand why they cut the warning off just at young adults.

It seems to me that these drugs have threatened everyone that has taken

them. I can see that anything like this would always threaten children

the most, but once you start talking about the true harm these drugs

cause, then why was there any age limit put on it? I didn't understand

this.

Also, on my local news I saw clips of two people standing up and saying

these drugs had helped them. What's the story on that? I don't see

these drugs helping anybody. Did I miss something here? I remember one

of them was a young girl. I couldn't help but wonder if her father was

a psychiatrist or in some way she was pushed to testify like this as the

poster child promo for these killer drugs.

Merrie

> Next we get the warning to cover ALL age groups, and get the FDA to

> warn against withdrawal and force doctors to wean safely!!

> Laurie

> We did it, we did it, we did this one! What next folks??

> FDA: Antidepressants risky for young adultsExpanded warning of suicidal

thoughts proposed for patients ages 18-24FREE VIDEO

>

[Guest guest]

AMEN!!!!

lsyorke <lsyorke@...> wrote: Next we get the warning to cover ALL

age groups, and get the FDA to

warn against withdrawal and force doctors to wean safely!!

Laurie

>

> We did it, we did it, we did this one! What next folks??

>

> FDA: Antidepressants risky for young adultsExpanded warning of

suicidal

> thoughts proposed for patients ages 18-24FREE VIDEO

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> Dec. 13: Antidepressants increase the risk of suicidal behavior for

people

> up to age 24, the Food and Drug Administration said Wednesday.

NBC's Tracie

> Potts reports.

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> Updated: 1 hour, 25 minutes ago

>

> WASHINGTON - Treatment with antidepressants increases the risk of

suicidal

> thoughts and behavior in patients age 24 and younger, according to

proposed

> changes to the drugs' labels unveiled Wednesday by federal health

officials.

>

> However, mental health experts are worried that additional warnings

about

> the risk of suicides linked to antidepressants could curtail their

use and

> ultimately do more harm than good.

>

> The proposed changes would expand a warning now on the labels that

applies

> only to children and adolescents treated with the drugs.

> Story continues below

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> The Food and Drug Administration put forth its plan to update the

drug

> labels early Wednesday at the start of a meeting of outside advisers

> convened to discuss the proposal. The changes also would include a

> recommendation that patients of all ages be carefully monitored,

especially

> when beginning antidepressant treatment.

>

> Adding " black box " or other warnings could scare off doctors,

parents and

> patients from the drugs, mental health experts caution. They warn

that

> people with untreated depression ¡X about half of those who suffer

from the

> disease ¡X face an estimated 15 percent greater likelihood of death

by

> suicide.

>

> " My concern is that by not simply promoting good standards of care

and by

> putting on a black-box label, the FDA may unwittingly limit further

access

> to care, " said Dr. Carolyn Robinowitz, president-elect of the

American

> Psychiatric Association.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I suppose it's small comfort, but I want you to know that it's people

like you that I think of everytime anyone tries to push an SSRI on my

son who will be 17 in January. I really thank everyone for their work

on this and I want you to know how much I appreciate having my son when

so many others before me have lost theirs.

It has been too great of a cost.

Every time I heard the news cast today and heard the people testify that

a loved one had suicided themselves on these pills, I just shuddered and

shuddered and shuddered. I just cannot imagine. This is gut wrenching.

Merrie

> My daughter committed suicide after 17 days on Paxil..she was 18.

> I've been fighting this age chop off issue for a long time. It's

> ridiculous and totally absurd.

> I'm filled with the deepest emotions and gratitude to all those who

> took the time, and made the incredible effort to attend this hearing.

> Especially the grieving family members..

> Bless you all.

> Steph

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you, Steph. I just wish this success could bring your child back.

I do so wish that.

Take comfort, if you can, that when they threw my son in the psych

hospital and terrorized me all weekend with their threats, I refused and

refused and refused. The doctor's closing threat was, " If I ever get

your son again, I WILL get control of him and I WILL give him these

drugs whether you like it or not! "

Burn in hell, doc.

It's people like you that have made this possible for me.

Thank you, Steph. If I hadn't been so educated to the harm of these

drugs because of all the attention and work people like you have done, I

wouldn't have known how very important it was for me to lay my life down

against it, which I was prepared to do.

I'm working very hard on my son now to correct his problems so that we

do not get into this situation again. I will continue to work very hard

on it until I get it corrected and then I will advocate with all my

diligence against these drugs.

Merrie

alfred8991 wrote:

> It's people like you who motivate me to go on, when I feel battle

> weary and disillusioned with the slow progress , Merrie.

> You remind me that it's worth the effort, and that there IS hope!

> Every child or adult saved from Big Pharma's clutches is a wonderful

> victory and I feel an ENORMOUS sense of gratitude and pleasure

> whenever I hear about such a case! Bless you and your son.

> Steph

>

>

>> I suppose it's small comfort, but I want you to know that it's people like

you that I think of everytime anyone tries to push an SSRI on my son who will be

17 in January. I really thank everyone for their work on this and I want you to

know how much I appreciate having my son when so many others before me have lost

theirs.

>> It has been too great of a cost.

>> Every time I heard the news cast today and heard the people testify that a

loved one had suicided themselves on these pills, I just shuddered and shuddered

and shuddered. I just cannot imagine. This is gut wrenching.

>> Merrie

>>

>>> My daughter committed suicide after 17 days on Paxil..she was 18.

>>>

[Guest guest]

Yes! Also lets not forget the insane violence these drugs cause.

I think the warnings need to be extended to all ages. They also need to

include withdrawal as well as real mania and psychosis numbers. This

was a great thing but people still aren't safe.

>

> We did it, we did it, we did this one! What next folks??

>

[Guest guest]

Yes. Doesn't this just ring of " 1984 " ? It's funny to me that I just

read that book for the first time this past June. People might argue

about that book and whether it's future view has become real now, but I

think those of us here will find it pretty much a mirror of what's going

on now.

Another book that forecasts this is the science fiction series called

" The Tripod Trilogy " . It's by and came out in the

'60's I believe. Particularly the first book of the series, " When the

Tripods Came " is very revealing. It's suppose to be children's

literature and that's how I got familiar with it as I was reading it to

my son. Very quickly into it I realized that there was more than a

children's story going on here. It's an excellent series--just

rivating. Parts of it I will never forget and I'm not a science fiction

fan. Anyway, the premise here in these books that really got my

attention was the attack on people's minds so that their freedom of

thought was taken away from them. It all began with watching TV--so

similiar now to children getting hooked into video games.

There have been great minds on this planet that have thought of what we

now see long before it happened. We've been warned and I think we still

are being warned.

I didn't know you hadn't seen my original post about this madman doctor

at the psychiatric hospital. Just a few days ago our local paper had a

front page story about how children were dying in these homes and

residential treatment facilities. This article wasn't even addressing

the drugs. It was talking about other residents harming residents and

even staffers having sex with some of the residents.

I visited my son in this hospital once while he was there. (He was

picked up on a Thursday evening and I got him back on the following

Monday morning.) I tried not to look too obvious, but I really wanted

to look around. Everything looked OK on the surface, but when I looked

at some of these children, I felt awful. I didn't know any of them and

didn't know why they were there, but I didn't feel that what was going

on there was for their benefit. I kept my mouth shut because I'm not

responsible for someone else's child, but I felt awful.

As for this mad doctor being on SSRI's himself, I have a feeling he was

not, though I'm sure many are. I just felt like this man was just

evil. He wasn't even stupid. He was from the country of India and had

a very strong accent. He truly sounded like the doctor at the end of

" 1984 " that tortures Winslow to his end.

I'm still very uneasy about my son, but I am very thankful we got

through this. It has put a lot of added stress on my family just

knowing now that I have to protect him even more. It feels like we have

had a Jihad declared against us.

Merrie

> Sjeesh...sounds like some mad man from an Orwelian novel..

> No doubt on SSRI's himself!

> You should be VERY, VERY proud of yourself Merrie. You did the right

> thing for your son.

> Wishing you all the best and total success.

> NEVER lose hope!

> Steph

>

>

[Guest guest]

Steph,

My heart goes out to you. Thank you so much for fighting on behalf of all

of us.

Jasmine

On 12/13/06, alfred8991 <gatchell@...> wrote:

>

> -Big Pharma are masters at manipulating the regulatory boards

> internationally and stalling action that can harm business. Stalling,

> stalling , stalling until patents run out. Deceitful beyond words. Had

> they any decency at all they'd withdraw their poison from the market.

> WHY weren't ALL age groups given cover now?? Why do more grieving

> families and experts have to go through all of this AGAIN at some

> point in the future?? It is impossible to even begin to imagine what

> it takes for a grieving family member to go through something like

> this...it's hell on earth. How many older people will die as a result

> of this ??Time will tell..

> They are messing with our lives, and we allow them to get away with

> it.Time after time, again, and again.

> My daughter committed suicide after 17 days on Paxil..she was 18.

> I've been fighting this age chop off issue for a long time. It's

> ridiculous and totally absurd.

> I'm filled with the deepest emotions and gratitude to all those who

> took the time, and made the incredible effort to attend this hearing.

> Especially the grieving family members..

> Bless you all.

> Steph

>

> -- In SSRI medications <SSRI medications%40>,

> " lsyorke " <lsyorke@...> wrote:

> >

> > Next we get the warning to cover ALL age groups, and get the FDA to

> > warn against withdrawal and force doctors to wean safely!!

> > Laurie

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > We did it, we did it, we did this one! What next folks??

> > >

> > > FDA: Antidepressants risky for young adultsExpanded warning of

> > suicidal

> > > thoughts proposed for patients ages 18-24FREE VIDEO

> > > <javascript:msnvDwd('00','3402b661-9b9f-447c-be00-

> > 3e793ce44fe4','us','hotvideo_m_edpicks','','msnbc','','16193189','FDA

> > > seeks new antidepressant warning')>

> > > ¡E FDA seeks new antidepressant warning

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> > 3e793ce44fe4','us','hotvideo_m_edpicks','','msnbc','','16193189','FDA

> > > seeks new antidepressant warning')>

> > > Dec. 13: Antidepressants increase the risk of suicidal behavior for

> > people

> > > up to age 24, the Food and Drug Administration said Wednesday.

> > NBC's Tracie

> > > Potts reports.

> > >

> > > NBC News Channel

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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> > > Updated: 1 hour, 25 minutes ago

> > >

> > > WASHINGTON - Treatment with antidepressants increases the risk of

> > suicidal

> > > thoughts and behavior in patients age 24 and younger, according to

> > proposed

> > > changes to the drugs' labels unveiled Wednesday by federal health

> > officials.

> > >

> > > However, mental health experts are worried that additional warnings

> > about

> > > the risk of suicides linked to antidepressants could curtail their

> > use and

> > > ultimately do more harm than good.

> > >

> > > The proposed changes would expand a warning now on the labels that

> > applies

> > > only to children and adolescents treated with the drugs.

> > > Story continues below

> > ¡õ<http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16185848/#storyContinued>

> > > ------------------------------

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> > > ------------------------------

> > >

> > > The Food and Drug Administration put forth its plan to update the

> > drug

> > > labels early Wednesday at the start of a meeting of outside advisers

> > > convened to discuss the proposal. The changes also would include a

> > > recommendation that patients of all ages be carefully monitored,

> > especially

> > > when beginning antidepressant treatment.

> > >

> > > Adding " black box " or other warnings could scare off doctors,

> > parents and

> > > patients from the drugs, mental health experts caution. They warn

> > that

> > > people with untreated depression ¡X about half of those who suffer

> > from the

> > > disease ¡X face an estimated 15 percent greater likelihood of death

> > by

> > > suicide.

> > >

> > > " My concern is that by not simply promoting good standards of care

> > and by

> > > putting on a black-box label, the FDA may unwittingly limit further

> > access

> > > to care, " said Dr. Carolyn Robinowitz, president-elect of the

> > American

> > > Psychiatric Association.

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

And you know I'm in agreement with you.

Merrie

alfred8991 wrote:

> I agree with you. It's hard not to wonder about thia mind control

> business.

> Drugs of course, being the perfect tool.

> NEVER allow control .

> NEVER give that away to anyone or anything.

> Our minds are so precious.

> It's our means of survival.

> All it takes is a bit of good ole fashioned common sense.

> Stay away from ALL artificial rubbish they concoct in labs.

> Nourish the body properly, not just feed.

> Exercise and develop positive thinking patterns.

> A bit of food for the soul , goes along way as well to keep us happy.

> Lots of love.:-)

>

>

>

>> Yes. Doesn't this just ring of " 1984 " ?

>