Guest guest Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 That's a most excellent letter Bob! I had been pondering about forced drugging, vaccination, and " treatment " , and began thinking if operations are included. I haven't seen anything detailed in regards to forced operations, and I think treatment is a little too vague. If the American Nazi's insist on forcing vaccines according to the law on the innocent people of America, yet cannot perform any operations, then this may be a way out since vaccination is an operation. I'm no expert in translating the deceptive, skillful " words of art " created by wicked politicians, but this may be something to look into. Dan http://www.satanicvaccines.com > > I'm sending the following letter to everyone I can think of. > Also all the Congressmen that are involved. > > > On Forced Medicine > > The medical industry while giving with one hand, takes with the other. The use of drugs and vaccines in the prevention, control and cure of disease has become obnoxious and obscene. In spite of giant strides made in some aspects of American medicine, more than 200,000 drugs now pollute the bloodstream of a nation. All this made possible by excessive advertising which has managed to create an image of respectibility for the medical industry. > > > > Brainwashing is the only reason that drugs are thriving in the US. > > Not one drug, antibiotic or vaccine has ever been proven to cure, help to cure, prevent or help to prevent any disease or disorder. Yet every drug has been proven to have the ability to cause as many as a dozen or more diseases. > > > > Vaccines do not give immunity. Drugs do not work. The immune system protects and defends. A healthy immune system has been known to cure every disease under the sun. Yet, the medical researchers continue to search for the non-existent magic bullet while a brainwashed public is led to believe that the introduction of drugs, chemicals or other morbid matter into the human bloodsteam can increase the healing ability of that amazing and God given mechanism. Such is the power of brainwashing. > > > > " Drugs show promise! " But they never work. " Possible Breakthroughs! " . They never arrive. 100 years of research without a cure: because there is no cure, so long as the authorities insist that a cure be contained in a pharmaceutical product or procedure. > > > > Drug ingredients are filthy and perverse. No drug has ever prevented, helped to prevent, cured or helped to cure any disease. The immune system is designed to rebel against filth, but often produces cures in spite of assaults from medical products. > > > > The doctor's job should be to enhance the immune system, not to pollute it. The drugging of the American People is a national catastrophe. > > > > As one who as shied away from the use of medicinal drugs and vaccines, I, my family, many friends, acquaintences and others, including household pets, have done very well for many years, relying on the body's natural ability to take care of itself. A healthy immune system is the best protection and defense against all diseases. > > > > I believe that to introduce into the bloodsteam any vile substance or morbid matter, even when done in the name of health, is a crime against nature. I believe that for our government, in partnership with the medical industry, to force the people of this nation to be drugged or vaccinated against their wills would be a crime against humanity. > > Bob Catalano > 27 Wellsmere Road > Roslindale, MA 02131 > Phone: 617-325-0591 > e-mail: Bob@S... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2006 Report Share Posted August 8, 2006 You know, in general you're preaching to the choir - but how about some specifics, including what forced medications and how they profit. Otherwise you lose credibility. It's hardly a republican only issue. Cheryl Forced Medicine At this time, plans are being made by President Bush, Senator Frist and many of our elected officials, to force the use of medical products, including vaccinations, on the entire American populace. President Bush along with Senator Frist and and other Congressmen who are heavily invested in pharmaceutical stocks are prepared to reap a windfall. Forced medicine will skyrocket their stock portfolios. It is important that we act now before it's too late. There is not much use in writing to our elected representatives or the media. They have much to gain by this unbleieveable Congressional gift to the drug industry. The only means still available to us are formats such as this one " Vaccinations " and sites such as www.medicine-no.com That is, sites dedicated to exposing the real truth about what's going on in the medical industry. If we can't support with contributions, we should at least be prepared to fight, and most importantly, to spread the word. Bob C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2006 Report Share Posted August 9, 2006 I too would be interested in specifics. Just throwing out scary pronouncements with no evidence doesn't carry much weight. However, Cheryl, other than mentioning by name two elected officials who happen to be Republicans, I don't think Bob said it *was* Republican-only issue. I suspect those two were named because they are two of those with the most power-- which, given the fact that the White House and Congress are both controlled by Republicans, is what one would expect. -Amy Forced Medicine At this time, plans are being made by President Bush, Senator Frist and many of our elected officials, to force the use of medical products, including vaccinations, on the entire American populace. President Bush along with Senator Frist and and other Congressmen who are heavily invested in pharmaceutical stocks are prepared to reap a windfall. Forced medicine will skyrocket their stock portfolios. It is important that we act now before it's too late. There is not much use in writing to our elected representatives or the media. They have much to gain by this unbleieveable Congressional gift to the drug industry. The only means still available to us are formats such as this one " Vaccinations " and sites such as www.medicine-no.com That is, sites dedicated to exposing the real truth about what's going on in the medical industry. If we can't support with contributions, we should at least be prepared to fight, and most importantly, to spread the word. Bob C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2006 Report Share Posted August 9, 2006 I believe the most obvious is whatever drug and vaccine is available during the " bird flu pandemic " . Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2006 Report Share Posted August 9, 2006 Hi Bob - this has been known for a long time... (regarding forced medication, to include vaccinations on the American populace) - I suggest you check under Project Bioshield - 2004 - under a 'epidemic' 'national emergency' 'pandemic' - any medication (to include those not approved by the FDA) can be forced on the populace. Senators Enzi and Burr also share responsibility for this - though it was primarily Frist who did the slick maneuver on the indemnification of the manufacturers. (See DoD appropriations bill 2006). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 > > > Our worst enemies are those who fill these pages with nonsense letters instead of using every ounce of energy we have to stop FORCED MEDICINE which is being planned for us at this time. Who are you refering to? People who complain & write letters? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 > > America is now headed for forced medical treatment. We will soon be > operated on, drugged and forced by law to under go any medical > procedure ordered by any doctor. *I really don't think this will happen. No individual will allow this to take place. Doctors can only recommend and urge to take such & such treatment but they can't force an adult to undergo anything. The first step towards forced medicine is forced vaccinations. *The reasoning behind mandatory vaccinations is that it's a treat to society at large. The vaccine belief is that herd immunity is needed and by vaccinating most, very young and/or fragile people can be protected. People feel it's everyone's duty as a part of any society to sustain " herd Immunity " and to stop the spread of a disease. So i think vaccines are a different scenerio. For example, my husband has Hepatitis C and the doctor is urging him to take this harsh treatment but he has been refusing it so far. My husband is strong willed and can get nasty with people so generally noone dares to stand up to him, lol. Katarina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 I am referring to people who talk about vaccine ingredients. People who talk about over-vaccinating. The fact is that all vaccines are poisons and poisons are not very beneficial to the human body. We should not give any respect at all to the vaccine makers or sellers. And certainly we should consider that the forcing of these produdts on the populace, is criminal and and outrageous. > > > > > > Our worst enemies are those who fill these pages with nonsense letters instead of using every ounce of energy we have to stop FORCED MEDICINE which is being planned for us at this time. > > Who are you refering to? People who complain & write letters? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 Alas the individuals who " won't allow this to happen " , are allowing it to happen to their children! Any difference? From: Katarina <kkatkov@...> Subject: Re: FORCED MEDICINE Vaccinations Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 9:37 AM > > America is now headed for forced medical treatment. We will soon be > operated on, drugged and forced by law to under go any medical > procedure ordered by any doctor. *I really don't think this will happen. No individual will allow this to take place. Doctors can only recommend and urge to take such & such treatment but they can't force an adult to undergo anything. The first step towards forced medicine is forced vaccinations. *The reasoning behind mandatory vaccinations is that it's a treat to society at large. The vaccine belief is that herd immunity is needed and by vaccinating most, very young and/or fragile people can be protected. People feel it's everyone's duty as a part of any society to sustain " herd Immunity " and to stop the spread of a disease. So i think vaccines are a different scenerio. For example, my husband has Hepatitis C and the doctor is urging him to take this harsh treatment but he has been refusing it so far. My husband is strong willed and can get nasty with people so generally noone dares to stand up to him, lol. Katarina ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 For example, my husband has Hepatitis C and the doctor is urging him to take this harsh treatment but he has been refusing it so far. Katarina: I had HepC about 11 years ago also and although my doctor did not try to force me to have the chemo for it, he did tell me to go home and live my happy life for 20 years until then I'd die. :-P Now, I know better than that and did a liver and immune boosting herbal routine for 1 year that involved 34 pills in the am. and 36 pills in the pm and I am cured of HepC on my own from these herbs and supplements with no side effects (except a thinner wallet, lol). I am telling you that some doctors do try to FORCE their will on patients and many many people do just what their doc tells them to do without questioning. My sister was one of them and she is dead for it. So sad and me and my family, we miss her terribly but that wretched doctor - he lives a good life with no remorse for all his lies. So sad. -Arlynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 I think Bob is saying that we are preaching to the converted here. He is right, but I find this group very necessary for my psyche, as proof that there really ARE people who have the same values as I do. When I run off at the mouth to strangers, especially new mothers, and preach to the unconverted, and distribute books and pamphlets, and keep my peace while being spat at and listening to the vitriol of the ignorant and frightened, it can be soul destroying, without this group as a backstop. I go " aaaah " in a big sigh when I sit down at the computer. However it's my choice. It's not always like this, I now have friends all over our little country, whom I would never know if it hadn't been for my big mouth and my ghastly postage bill! Our NZ anti-vax group is too frightened to be any more than pro-choice for fear of the vindictive med " profession " , and it doesn't seem to be very active. Mara From: Katarina <kkatkov@...> Subject: Re: FORCED MEDICINE Vaccinations Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 9:29 AM > > > Our worst enemies are those who fill these pages with nonsense letters instead of using every ounce of energy we have to stop FORCED MEDICINE which is being planned for us at this time. Who are you refering to? People who complain & write letters? > ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 > > Alas the individuals who " won't allow this to happen " , are allowing it to happen to their children! Any difference? > >That's because they don't know that vaccines are poison. Parents think they do the necessary thing for their children and for the society at large. Noone in their right mind would use them if they knew the truth. Ofcourse people trust doctors when they say we need vaccines, plus people look around and don't see these diseases anymore therefore assuming it's because of mass vaccination. Katarina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 You will notice the topic is FORCED MEDICINE. ie, even adolescents mature enough to make their own decisions, being forced to undergo chemo and irradiation against their and their parents wishes; the drs being backed by the judges, CPS and police! The latest one to hit the news stands - the child has already had a round of chemo, and doesn't want any more. The authorities say he has been brain washed by his parents into wanting herbs and alternatives. Mara From: Katarina <kkatkov@...> Subject: Re: FORCED MEDICINE Vaccinations Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 6:35 PM > > Alas the individuals who " won't allow this to happen " , are allowing it to happen to their children! Any difference? > >That's because they don't know that vaccines are poison. Parents think they do the necessary thing for their children and for the society at large. Noone in their right mind would use them if they knew the truth. Ofcourse people trust doctors when they say we need vaccines, plus people look around and don't see these diseases anymore therefore assuming it's because of mass vaccination. Katarina ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 This is not forced medicine, but vaccination in ignorance of the fact that NONE of us suffer from a vaccine deficiency. These images are MORE THAN disturbing, please do NOT post the pictures, as damage can be done to the psyche of the unborn due to hormones released by mother. Pregnant women could inadvertently open it. Post the URL and please offer a warning. Thanks so much. Mara http://iansvoice.org/default.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 And this is just one child. I am beyond words. This should be sent to every pediatrician and parent we know. Winnie Re: Re: FORCED MEDICINE Vaccinations > This is not forced medicine, but vaccination in ignorance of the > fact that NONE of us suffer from a vaccine deficiency. These > images are MORE THAN disturbing, please do NOT post the > pictures, as damage can be done to the psyche of the unborn due > to hormones released by mother. Pregnant women could > inadvertently open it. Post the URL and please offer a warning. > Thanks so much. > Mara > > > > http://iansvoice.org/default.aspx > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 Despite this, the parents are not anti vaccine, just want " safer vaccines " and are smiling. WTH?????? Very strange. They have also posted the FDA propaganda on Hep B vaccine. Mara From: wharrison@... <wharrison@...> Subject: Re: Re: FORCED MEDICINE Vaccinations Date: Tuesday, May 19, 2009, 6:36 AM And this is just one child. I am beyond words. This should be sent to every pediatrician and parent we know. Winnie Re: Re: FORCED MEDICINE Vaccinations > This is not forced medicine, but vaccination in ignorance of the > fact that NONE of us suffer from a vaccine deficiency. These > images are MORE THAN disturbing, please do NOT post the > pictures, as damage can be done to the psyche of the unborn due > to hormones released by mother. Pregnant women could > inadvertently open it. Post the URL and please offer a warning. > Thanks so much. > Mara > > > > http://iansvoice.org/default.aspx > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 Either they're still in shock or trying to win over those who are pro-vax. They haven't completely arrived yet to how that doesn't work. When the dust settles (whenever that is for families who go through this), they'll be singing a different tune. Winnie Re: Re: FORCED MEDICINE > Vaccinations > > > This is not forced medicine, but vaccination in ignorance of > the > > fact that NONE of us suffer from a vaccine deficiency. These > > images are MORE THAN disturbing, please do NOT post the > > pictures, as damage can be done to the psyche of the unborn > due > > to hormones released by mother. Pregnant women could > > inadvertently open it. Post the URL and please offer a > warning. > > Thanks so much. > > Mara > > > > > > > > http://iansvoice.org/default.aspx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 Beggars belief, doesn't it? How terribly, terribly sad. There are definitely similarities between this case and the Dana McCaffrey case though I know she had pertussis, but the description of what happened seems awfully similar. Wonder if her death was due to an allergic reaction to something - we do give the Hep B at birth here, after all... Sue x -- Re: Re: FORCED MEDICINE Despite this, the parents are not anti vaccine, just want " safer vaccines " and are smiling. WTH?????? Very strange. They have also posted the FDA propaganda on Hep B vaccine. Mara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 It's given at birth to the babies of carrier or positive mothers, otherwise it's at 6 weeks, 3 & 5 mths. Words fail. And if not pertussis, Dana died of the treatment? From: Sue <mum2mishka@...> Subject: Re: Re: FORCED MEDICINE Vaccinations Date: Tuesday, May 19, 2009, 7:05 AM Beggars belief, doesn't it? How terribly, terribly sad. There are definitely similarities between this case and the Dana McCaffrey case though  I know she had pertussis, but the description of what happened seems awfully similar. Wonder if her death was due to an allergic reaction to something - we do give the Hep B at birth here, after all... Sue x -- Re: Re: FORCED MEDICINE Despite this, the parents are not anti vaccine, just want " safer vaccines " and are smiling. WTH?????? Very strange. They have also posted the FDA propaganda on Hep B vaccine. Mara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 There is a picture of the mother holding her disfigured, poor infant and smiling for the camera...? I wounder if they gave hell to the attending pediatrician. What is the retional behind hep.B given right in the hospital? Terrible..... Katarina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 > From: Maracuja > Date: 19/05/2009 9:56:51 PM > Vaccinations > Subject: Re: Re: FORCED MEDICINE > > Despite this, the parents are not anti vaccine, just want " safer vaccines " > and are smiling. WTH?????? Very strange. They have also posted the FDA > propaganda on Hep B vaccine. > Mara I thought the same thing. Nice smiley pictures of thr mother holding her poor infant who is about to blow up from this terrible reaction. Why didn't they give hell to all the staff at the hospital? I think people in this country are sometimes too nice for their own good. I wonder how they digested the whole thing. I need to read their story but it pisses me off. How was the life lost justified here? Hep.B, a disease that is hard to get, that is rare, that is curable. Katarina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Um, the baby isnt disfigured. That's how features look in death in an infant sadly. Hep B is routinely given to theoretically prevent Hep B, since they figure many women lie and it's better to shoot up everyone instead of the ones who are truely exposed...which of course even if a child is exposed to Hep B a stupid vaccine isn't going to do anything post-birth. Lori ---- Katarina <kkatkov@...> wrote: > There is a picture of the mother holding her disfigured, poor infant and smiling for the camera...? I wounder if they gave hell to the attending pediatrician. What is the retional behind hep.B given right in the hospital? Terrible..... > > Katarina > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Never mind, my apologies, I think I see which picture you're talking about now....ugh. At any rate, overall sad....and the parents don't necessarily think anything different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 There is only one rationale for the use of vaccines - money. From: Katarina <kkatkov@...> Subject: Re: FORCED MEDICINE Vaccinations Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 7:01 AM There is a picture of the mother holding her disfigured, poor infant and smiling for the camera...? I wounder if they gave hell to the attending pediatrician. What is the retional behind hep.B given right in the hospital? Terrible..... Katarina ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 And a disease of IV drug users and the extremely sexually active. Especially why babies? I read the silliest reason that the Italian authorities gave parents - when the babies were a bit older they might be playing in a park and get stuck by a discarded needle! I wonder if these are the same " authorities " who produced the " mountain " of evidence that MMR doesn't trigger autism, by comparing the vaccinated with the slightly less vaccinated. Suddenly their mountain is reduced to the pathetic less than a molehill of @# & * it really is! Also check out VINE - Vaccination Information Network run by Erwin Alber in Thailand. He has translated works by Dr. med. Gerhard Buchwald. Vaccination Information Network (VINE)Also congratulations and many thanks Bob, for your excellent book, The Great White Hoax. I have recommended it to everyone with whom I am in email contact! Fantastic. From: Katarina <kkatkov@...> Subject: Re: FORCED MEDICINE Vaccinations Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 7:07 AM > From: Maracuja > Date: 19/05/2009 9:56:51 PM > Vaccinations > Subject: Re: Re: FORCED MEDICINE >Â > Despite this, the parents are not anti vaccine, just want " safer vaccines " > and are smiling. WTH?????? Very strange. They have also posted the FDA > propaganda on Hep B vaccine. > Mara I thought the same thing. Nice smiley pictures of thr mother holding her poor infant who is about to blow up from this terrible reaction. Why didn't they give hell to all the staff at the hospital? I think people in this country are sometimes too nice for their own good. I wonder how they digested the whole thing. I need to read their story but it pisses me off. How was the life lost justified here? Hep.B, a disease that is hard to get, that is rare, that is curable. Katarina ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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